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Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland


OP pawian 161 | 9,971
13 Mar 2019 #181
They don't have a platform to inform the people what they are on about.

False. They have their press and websites, they reach their supporters freely. As cms pointed, there are not too many of them, that is why they don`t reach too many. How simple.

The greatest polls and tests for politics are elections.

Don`t be naive. 3% is maximum what nationalists can get. Even as a coalition. With such a result, they will have zero EParliament members.
Ironside 48 | 9,900
14 Mar 2019 #182
False. They have their press and websites, they reach their supporters freely.

geez ,you are so lame with your commie retorts. How is that false? They don't have media that would reach to millions of people. Sure they can reach to those who are already interested in them or are actively looking for their offer. An average person has not change to either hear about them or to listen to their point of view.

There is no balance in the media? How democracy or the country can work at all? Not to mention 80% of media are in foreign hands.

The EU make decisions about Poland's internal affairs. The country is not independent any more.
Spike31 2 | 884
14 Mar 2019 #183
Surely they could raise money from their members or supporters ?

Well, I'm one of their supporters and I donate shiny £ to:

> Stowarzyszenie "Marsz Niepodleglosci"
> medianarodowe.com
> fundacjakisiela.org

and also to

> michalkiewicz.pl

Vote with your money people! [or socialists will vote with your tax money and donate it to disgusting causes such as LGBT]
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,473
14 Mar 2019 #184
Don't forget nacjonalista.pl and stormfront : )

is maximum what nationalists can get

Do you know what percent of the us population it took to overthrow and defeat the Brits?

3%.....
Ziemowit 12 | 3,608
14 Mar 2019 #185
They don't have a platform to inform the people what they are on about

Every excuse will be good when people don't want to accept the truth.

I'm one of their supporters and I donate shiny £ to

Can you see, Iron? If people want, they can. And you, genius, how much do you donate from Norway to the bloody nationalists of Poland whom you support?

michalkiewicz.pl

Michalkiewicz is a clown like no other in Poland.
Sylvio 15 | 115
14 Mar 2019 #186
To counter PIS I want to launch an entirely new political force, called ZIS - "Zdrada i Szwindel" . Our aim is to grow a huge electorate.
Ironside 48 | 9,900
14 Mar 2019 #187
Every excuse will be good when people don't want to accept the truth.

Right Ziem? looking in the mirror now?
Spike31 2 | 884
14 Mar 2019 #188
Michalkiewicz is a clown like no other in Poland.

Stanislaw Michalkiewicz is the best Polish political columnist since the death of Maciej Rybinski
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
14 Mar 2019 #189
geez ,you are so lame with your commie retorts. How is that false? They don't have media that would reach to millions of people.

No, you are lame with your lack of basic knowledge how capitalism works. The number of readers and viewers influences profits from advertising. If nationalist media have no recipients or only lousy 3% of the population, then it is obvious their income is scarce in result they lack funding for development or even mere existence in the market. Do I have to tell you such simple things or you only pretend you don`t know? Because it is really amazing.

The EU make decisions about Poland's internal affairs. The country is not independent any more.

That`s just great because I prefer dependency on th EU than on Kremlin`s Russia. You, as an expat, don`t care about it but I do because I live here.

Generally, stop making a fool of yourself. That`s another thing which amazes me in you. Who is paying you for writing those banialookie?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
14 Mar 2019 #190
. The number of readers and viewers influences profits from advertising.

That's the exact reason why right wing portals have never succeeded without wealthy backers or cash from state-owned companies.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
14 Mar 2019 #191
Don't forget nacjonalista.pl and stormfront : )

Please, some serious nationalist guys might take it seriously and really get involved in neonazi movement. :)

Do you know what percent of the us population it took to overthrow and defeat the Brits?

No, I don`t know this joke or anecdote. Or a riddle?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,473
14 Mar 2019 #192
Neither. It's a FACT. It took 3% of Americans to kick out the most powerful country during that time. It's since spawned a movement known as the 3%ers.

Point is a small group of nationalists patriots etc can change history and lead a country in a new direction.

Please, some serious nationalist guys might take it seriously and really get involved in neonazi movement. :)

I hope they do.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
14 Mar 2019 #193
Point is a small group of nationalists patriots etc can change history and lead a country in a new direction.

Yes, I think it also applies to Hitler and his NSDAP. :) They led the whole world into a new direction, indeed. :)
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,473
14 Mar 2019 #194
Exactly. So don't discount the nationalists.

If Poland is ever invaded it'll be the nationalists that will risk their lives, just like they have through polands thousand year history
Ironside 48 | 9,900
15 Mar 2019 #195
The number of readers and viewers influences profits from advertising.

It doesn't quite works the way you think it does but never mind.

That`s just great because I prefer dependency on th EU

I know. Hence I called you F peasant. You willing live as a serf as long as they provide you with what you assume is a decent standard of living. A country is for you just an expression. you don't really grasp concept of a country and it role.

stop making a fool of yourself.

Shut your mouth. Why would I talk to you? You have your masters. Who cares want some serf thinks, eh?
cms neuf - | 1,021
15 Mar 2019 #196
If Poland ever gets invaded we can turn to our professional army. If a few inebriated skinheads want to tag along them no problem but they won't be much use against tanks and aircraft.

Ironside of course the advertising market works like that - most right wing nuts are poor and resistant to change - precisely the kind of person that advertisers are not interested in.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
15 Mar 2019 #197
Shut your mouth. Why would I talk to you? You have your masters. Who cares want some serf thinks, eh?

No, I won`t. I will always stand up to such Kremlin stooges like you, whether in the air, on land and oceans or in the underground state ruled by femminist women. :)

A country is for you just an expression. you don't really grasp concept of a country and it role.

The era of fully independent countries has passed. Now what counts is unions.

If a few inebriated skinheads want to tag along them no problem but they won't be much use against tanks and aircraft.

No, they might join the Guards. And be really useful in urban warfare or underground activities in case of occupation..

On Saturday united opposition coalition officially started their EU Parliament elections campaign ..

thenews.pl/1/2/Artykul/414667,Polish-opposition-launches-EU-elections-campaign

The main motive which is going to be used extensively by the opposition is the threat of Polexit, which is said to be possible if PiS stays in power for another term after national elections in autumn 2019.

Schetyna stressed that this year's elections will decide what Poles really want: "either a Poland that is one of the leaders of the West, or a Poland drifting to the East."
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
16 Apr 2019 #198
Evacuation action is the campaign organised by the opposition to prevent top PiS politicians from finding a safe haven in the Euro Parliament. Mobile billboards are going to remind voters about the greatest pests from PiS who are trying to avoid responsibility for their flunked job in Poland:

E.g, Watch out! She is fleeing to Brussels! Anna Zalewska (Education Minister). Let her tell us what she has done to children. Stop PiS! Elections on 26th May.

Good idea.



Dirk diggler 9 | 4,473
16 Apr 2019 #199
Do you have any clue how ridiculous the EP is?

Here's a summary

youtu.be/lzigiPUXNzI

It's insane thinking that the EP votes on things that affect millions of people in this manner. The translator can't keep up, votes are counted visually, etc. Poland needs to get as much money as possible while they can and then leave.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,741
16 Apr 2019 #200
What a farce! Even SNL would not find it funny enough, and that's a very low bar.
I am so glad you posted this video.
Now, I like China and Xi even more. They, at least, have the decency to do without this kind of grotesque bullsh**.
How many Muslim refugees are on Chinese welfare?
jon357 63 | 14,254
16 Apr 2019 #201
to remind voters about the greatest pests from PiS who are trying to avoid responsibility for their flunked job in Poland:

This one sums up the situation beautifully. For those who don't read Polish, there was a tweet from the truly vila and cretinous Krystyna Pawlowicz from PiS making an entirely unprovoked attack on the widow of the Mayor of Gdańsk saying more or less: "What ability do you have apart from being the wife of the murdered Mayor, not showing basic respect for the elected President of the republic, to be a candidate and sitting in the European Parliament for Poland? What qualification or knowledge except for a dislike of your home?" Dr Adamowicz replied more or less: "Being the wife of the murdered mayor became is my tragic fate. Thanks to hard work I'm a Doctor of Laws, a Lecturer at the University of Gdańsk, a legal advisor, an MBA, a graduate of the school of German law at Bonn University and British and EU law at cambridge University, speaking German and English. And I respect people, yourself included."

PiS are wretched clowns and Pawlowicz is not fit to lick Dr Adamowicz's boots.



Rich Mazur 4 | 3,741
16 Apr 2019 #202
I am touched.

Do you realize how many American MBA's, PhD's, and lawyers it took to run up that 22 trillion debt, send most of our jobs abroad, spend 5 trillions on nothing in Iraq and Afghanistan, and spout all the crap how "America" needs socialism? The answer: tens of thousands. All of them world-class morons with the world-class titles.

My cat would have been smarter than those over-educated neocon and globalist idiots.

BTW, I don't have a cat. Just saying...
jon357 63 | 14,254
16 Apr 2019 #203
I am touched

Indeed you are....
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
17 Apr 2019 #204
Poland needs to get as much money as possible while they can and then leave.

And then jump straight into Kremlin`s arms. Thank you, no.

PiS are wretched clowns and Pawlowicz is

That woman is one of the most horrific members of PiS, her every utterance is full of venom and spite. Similar to some members of the PF. :)

BTW, I don't have a cat.

That might be one of your gravest life mistakes, Having a cat would certainly relieve you of your multiple stresses and give you a more relaxed attitude and outlook on many things. :)
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,473
17 Apr 2019 #205
I am so glad you posted this video.

It's ludicrous. How people can still support the EU after seeing how votes are counted there is beyond me. The funniest, or saddest depending how you look at it, is that the EU and their supporters consider it as the zenith of a democrat system. In reality, the EU constitution was based on the USSR's and it's m.o. resembles the ussr's more and more, except worse because unlike the ussr the EU spreads degeneracy like lgbt. Now the EU is demanding that africans be given reparations paid for by eu citizens of course. I wonder if that resolution passed the same way so much other legislature has where people don't know if they're voting for, against, or even which law as the translator is behind or if their votes were even counted since the president looks only at one side of the hall most of the time.

And then jump straight into Kremlin`s arms. Thank you, no.

What is with you and this obsession with the Kremlin? You accuse me of looking at everything in black and white yet it is you who does it. There are other options besides the EU and the Kremlin. Just because we leave the EU doesn't mean we have to jump into the Kremlin's arms. For one, we can follow a policy like Switzerland or Norway, after we maximize the amount of money the EU is going to give us of course.
jon357 63 | 14,254
17 Apr 2019 #206
her every utterance is full of venom and spite.

Dog whistling to a very crude demographic.

Though she is probably actually stupid enough to believe some of the things she says. Hopefully this election will be a nasty shock for PiS.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,473
17 Apr 2019 #207
Except it won't because PiS is still the most popular party in Poland.

Let her tell us what she has done to children.

Saved children from having to learn about gay butt sex and prevented them from being brainwashed into thinking sexual degeneracies are normal with indoctrination starting at age 6 like in western Europe. Props to her. Better than a traitor who will sell out Poland to people who want nothing more than Poles' to stop their resistance to the EU's policies and finally let in a bunch of turd worlders and let gay people marry, and introduce a stagnant currency which would instantly make common goods far more expensive. If the EU had it their way they'd never even let Poland have an independence day march since in their eyes it's a 'gathering of fascists and neo-nazis'
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
17 Apr 2019 #208
For one, we can follow a policy like Switzerland or Norway,

No, we can`t. Have you ever heard about Kremlin troops occupying Switzerland or Norway? No.
Poland? Yes, many times. :)

First advice to you: check the map of Europe.
Second advice - read about the history of Poland.

You definitely need a cat, just like Rich, to achieve a peace of mind. How about two? :):)

Hopefully this election will be a nasty shock for PiS.

With enraged teachers at the ballot - definitely! :)

Except it won't because PiS is still the most popular party in Poland.

Yes, but remember - nothing is forever. Many parties had been the most popular in Poland once but they ceased to. PiS offended and put off too many groups with their arrogance, dishonesty and incompetence to hope for good results. Even their benefits won`t help them anymore.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,473
17 Apr 2019 #209
Indeed. But I'm not talking about forever. I'm talking about the next election.

With enraged teachers at the ballot - definitely! :)

A few hundred k teachers is a drop in the bucket of all the voters. Grade school and high school teachers get little respect in Polish society, only at the uni level do they get respect. Hell Poles have more regard for coal miners and loggers.

PiS offended and put off too many groups.

And they they're still #1
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
17 Apr 2019 #210
A few hundred k teachers is a drop in the bucket of all the voters.

Wrong. Europarliament elections are attended primarily by educated voters, mostly from urban areas. Rural guys don`t care about them so much as too abstract.

Grade school and high school teachers get little respect in Polish society,

Wrong. 74% for a teacher isn`t little, compared to the highest result 87% for a fireman.

Isn`t it funny how I am teaching you, a self-proclaimed Pole, about Polish issues? :):) Don`t thank me, it is our motto - Once a teacher, always a teacher. :)

And they they're still #1

35-40% support can be number one but ceases to be so when united opposition gains 45%. :)

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