Life / Polish Positivity and the Myth Of Middle-Class Pretense, or "Everything Will Be Fine." [27]


That's my observation as well


Is something to keep in mind when attempting to describe any nationality.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]


The Polish representatives putting the wishes of the Soviets into practice. The Soviets who were in Yalta, and agreed to allow Poland to have free and fair elections failed to deliver.


And how exactly would they have done that?


It was adopted legally, and it did not completely abolish democracy in Poland. It certainly curtailed it, but it did not abolish it.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]


What part of the 1935 constitution? The government in exile, in the absence of a democratically elected government in Poland, was seen as the legitimate representative of the people's will. Poland was under the soviet occupation until 1989, and its people were not allowed to express their will, so the government in exile did it on their behalf. The regime in Poland was illegitimate, because it failed to live up to its obligations as stipulated in the Yalta treaty, which means that all its subsequent actions were null and void.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]


I believe that all power is derived from the people for the people. Any modern government that does not draw its legitimacy from the people, is illegitimate in my view. The fact the Poland's democratically elected representative chose to take his seals of office from the last Polish President in exile means that the people saw the government in exile as their representatives during Poland's time of soviet occupation.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]


And you should remember that when Wa£ęsa was installed as Poland's first democratically elected post communist President, at the inauguration ceremony he received he seals of office from Poland's last President in exile Ryszard Kaczorowski. This clearly demonstrates the the previous regime was illegitimate in the eyes of the people.

Law / Poland's job offers advertising salary less than a minimum wage? [15]


Not in Germany, because Germany doesn't have a minimum wage. I have never worked in Germany, but i would imagine the culture in that country would prevent this type of exploitation

Life / What is the reaction of Poles to Russian? [95]


Poles don't mind ordinary Russians, but they despise the Russian leadership (for obvious reasons).

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]


The cheapest of cheap play boys, absolutely not.

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]


I hate to brake it to you but for the most part they are fukc ugly(: They have no shadow cabinet, and I can only think of 2 MPs that might be classified as good looking (I am talking about PIS), you see unfortunately it's not only in their mental capacity that they are diminished.

I can only think of 2 PIS MPs that make the cut: Mariusz Kaminski and Elżbieta Rafalska (taking her age into account), the rest are real dogs.


No never not even close. I was going to put forward Sikorski, but Arlukowicz no way. As far as the cabinet goes we are going to have draw the line at Sikorski.

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]


You have got to be a bit more flexible when it comes to politicians, don't forget it's show business for ugly people. I think this completes our cabinet list, although some might say that Gowin could be classified as handsome, if not exactly hot.

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]


I know what you mean, very nice, she would give you something to hold on to. (:

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]


Of course not(:
I agree with you in a sense, I don't like the fact that we live in this 24/7 media cycle in which everyone has to have a comment, or a response within the next hour. I think that this tarnishes statesmanship.

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]


Well if they aren't hot, as you say and as you like, what is the problem? You know they didn't get to where they are today without having the competence to match.

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]


Oooo, she's a bit of all right innit


As far as politicians go these to positively burn.

Love / Do you think these renowned Poles are hot? [150]


Both Biedron and Tusk are not, but I can think of several that are smokin. I will start with the cabinet first (I can't seem to be able to copy the image url, sow pawian you are going to have to do the image search and post them for me, please:

Joanna Much
Slawomir Nowak
Jacek Cichocki

UK, Ireland / I'm from a small town in the UK and I think Poland is a nation of criminals [37]


By all means please show them to us, because you haven't produced any as yet. I have statistics that give the opposite picture but, given that you produced the thread I think it would be incumbent on you to produce them first.

UK, Ireland / Which are more alike -- Warsaw and London or Warsaw and Manchester? [7]


How embarrassing! I was in a hurry; hadn't had the time to check!

UK, Ireland / Which are more alike -- Warsaw and London or Warsaw and Manchester? [7]

Haven’t been to Manchester. Based on my observations London and Warsaw are quite different, I think in terms of architecture London has more of a neo classical appearance in comparison to Warsaw, as well as a strong Gothic architectural influence. Warsaw appears to be more barbeque in appearance with some socialist realist architecture. I would imagine that Manchester would look nothing like Warsaw.

Life / The unacceptable side of Polish culture [48]

I am not sure how symptomatic this is of Polish culture, but good on you for not being another one who just passes by. A mate of mine (here is Aus.), witnessed a DV incident on a Friday night in the street, the male was beating up the female, so he decided to intervene. It ended with both the male and the female chasing after him to beat him up. There is no doubt that it takes a lot of courage to intervene in a situation of this kind, personally I think that it has to come from a deep personal anger at the injustice that you are witnessing, which prompts you to intervene against your better judgment. Because there are plenty who have, and have come off second best as a result. Quite recently there was a story about a man who did just that here in Australia, and ended up in the hospital in a comma.

News / What should Poland do to solve the population crisis? [101]

[quote=kcharlie] Most of the progress the Polish government has made is in adopting some Western standards, such as increasing parental leave and making provisions for its transfer between parents.That's all well and good, but people also need resources when they are off work to be able to raise children.And tax relief for large families is good, but it doesn't help those who don't earn enough to pay much tax anyway. A lot of the time, the government's stance seens to be "if you can't afford to have children, you shouldn't be having any," when the majority of the fertile population doesn't feel economically secure enough to consider having more than one or two children.This sort of mindset is not going to go very far. Between 2003 and 2008, the Polish fertility rate increased from 1.2 to 1.4. Since 2009, it has fallen back to 1.3.That certainly means that the Polish government is NOT doing enough, since not only has it failed to arrest the fall in fertility, but has overseen its decrease back to catastrophically low levels.

I was just making the general observation that although the rate has gone up; it's probably more to do with Russia's ethnic minorities, which from a Russian point of view is a problem because it has big problem with racism: From Russia with hate

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In regards to the government's policies, at a time of economic slowdown there is simply nothing more the government can do in the present circumstances. Notice that the fall in the fertility rate has coincided with the start of the economic crisis, when that reverses hopefully things will change. And I agree, if you can't afford to be having children then you shouldn't have them. Giving away money in lump sums is no guarantee that the money will be spent on the children, most people will probably spend the money on new plasma TVs. By making poor people breed you are just creating problems for the future, such social breakdown and an increase in crime down the track. If you want an improvement in the social stock you have to encourage the people who should be breeding but are not due to work commitments, which is what the government is doing.

History / Destructions of Poland thoughout centuries [55]

You should have started with the Mongol invasions Pawian. The 2nd Swedish invasion during the Northern War was almost just as destructive, from a political point of view even more so, because it meant that Poland became a Russian puppet afterwards.

News / What should Poland do to solve the population crisis? [101]

The government is doing plenty already; there is no need for any more initiatives. This is what the government has done and intends on doing:

So far the government has adopted the so-called Act on day care which increased the subsidies for gminas for establishing day care centres or children clubs, the Act on social insurance system which stipulates that the state budget will finance pension and disability pension contributions for all persons who resign from work to bring up their children; and an amendment to the Labour Code which stipulates that one of 36 months of the child care leave must be used by the other parent. The work is underway on regulations introducing a year-long parental leave.

The pro-family policy is also implemented by means of other government programmes: the “Flat for the Young” programme (addressed to families and singles up to 35 years of age), reimbursement of in vitro procedures (the 3-year long programme will be launched in July 2013 and will cover 15 000-20 000 couples; the public funds will finance approx. 70-80% of the cost of the procedures). Other forms of government support include newborn allowances and a higher tax relief for families with three or more children.

It is far more than anything that Russia has done. BTW if you look at the demographic Russian boom closely, I think that you will find that most of that boom is taking place near the Urals and the caucuses, or through people who have moved from these areas and settled in Russian metropolitan areas.

History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

So the fact that they did not want to live in an independent Poland would have nothing to do with them wanting to leave? You have to remember that the majority of these people had nothing but contempt for the newly reborn Polish state. The sources that you provided clearly indicate that, so the fact that that the German government indoctrinated its people in this way would have nothing to do with them wanting to leave?

From your earlier posts I gather that your family were land owners, so it is possible that they could have been some of the people effected by the land reform act (which effected everyone and not only Germans) BTW, what part of Poland did your family come from?

History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]

Thanks for the posts Peter, but I am afraid that they merely confirm, as far as this debate is concerned, that you haven't got a leg to stand on. And what is more, that you appear to be a Holocaust denier. One of your suggested books is described in the following way: “For his historical publications challenging the official 'truth' about the Holocaust. Udo Walendy was sentenced to 29 months imprisonment in Germany”, I thing this description should give a red warning light to anyone following your argument.

As for your other posts, there is a lot about German attitudes and attempts to Germanize Poles, but very little on the expulsions of Germans from Poland. One of links in relation to a judgment of the International Court is in relation to a minor legal technical point, but it doesn’t go into any details of Poles forcing Germans to move out.

History / Was Prussia mostly German? [65]


Would care to provde some documentary sources or articles on the topic?

News / How much Poland's economy grew up since 1989? [32]

Well That is typical Ironside for you.

News / How much Poland's economy grew up since 1989? [32]

This is a good start, it should give you the information you are looking for: indexmundi.com/poland


It's no mystery, Poland has a lot of spare capacity, and normal trend growth for the country in benign economic circumstances is between 4.5 -5% of Real GDP. This should continue for about 10 years after the economic crisis, then it's likely to fall to around 3.5 -4%.

In regards to employment, this should be helpful: "In terms of employment, 59% of people aged 15 to 64 in Poland have a paid job, lower than the OECD employment average of 66%. Some 66% of men are in paid work, compared with 53% of women. People in Poland work 1939 hours a year, more than most people in the OECD who work 1749 hours. Approximately 7% of employees work very long hours, slightly lower than the OECD average of 9%, with 11% of men working very long hours compared with just 3% for women. "

Life / Unique Culture Aspects of Krakow [18]

The Krakowiak.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


Well intellectually, you would certainly pass for a Russian. Like I said, no proof means that you, just like Kaczynsk, is lying.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


No, by anybody who can think reasonably, which clearly doesn't inculde you.


No, he did not. And until you can proe otherwise, it will remain a lie.