What "Yes"?
Slavic languages words similarities with Polish
And what is "gołodupiec" in English and in Russian?
Depends on meaning could be a variants:
In Russian
1) A guy without money - "golodraniec"
2) A guy without pants - "golozadyj"
In English
"A deadbeat" , " a ragamuffin" .
I will not search for more vulgar expressions.
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In Russian
1) A guy without money - "golodraniec"
2) A guy without pants - "golozadyj"
In English
"A deadbeat" , " a ragamuffin" .
I will not search for more vulgar expressions.
Ukraine_herb
What "Yes"?
Mistakes in vocabulary "yes".
"Mistakes in vocabulary"
Why not to list them all, if you intend to prove it?
Why not to list them all, if you intend to prove it?
Hardly necessary, Vlad. Only one or two examples would suffice nicely:-)
Vlad, very interesting indeed. Did you compile all these words yourself or get them off some database? Whatever the case, it took lots of compiling. There are also many faux amis in Polish and Russian. One could choose words that are completely different in the two languages such as the words for bed, tie (worn round the neck by men), chill/cold, lips and many more.
Vlad, very interesting indeed. Did you compile all these words yourself or get them off some database? Whatever the case, it took lots of compiling.
I compiled them myself. Didn't use any database. I used Google translate to verify Polish words and their meanings and other sources such as wikipedia. It wasn't difficult. Being native Russian speaker I could often predict which words could have common origins and not borrowed from non-Slavic languages. Also I read Polish texts and could have imagination about similarities. So I just take some Russian word and verify its Polish counterparts and cognates. Also I often verified etymology of Russian words, their Protoslavic and old Slavic origins and which Polish words also have the same roots. I think to create database in which Old Slavic roots of these words will be shown as well.
I do not claim all words I compiled have ancient common roots. For example samolot or kukurydza. However somolot is comiled from two ancient Slavic words "sam" i "latac" or "letat". Protoslavic - *letěti. Old Slavic - лєтѣти. Etc.
Why not to list them all
All of them? Do you really thing I have nothing to do in my spare time? but you continue to use google translate hoping it works well...
All of them? Do you really thing I have nothing to do in my spare time?
Yes, definitely not studying languages...
but you continue to use google translate hoping it works well...
I do not claim it always does but mostly yes. It seems somebody modifies it just on the run. For example not too long ago it mentioned a word ''lico'' as a Polish variant of face and not anymore. However some sources claim that there is a word ''lice'' in Polish which means cheek or face. So, I would be really glad to see an ultimate version of Polish dictionary in Google translate... Desirably it also have to mark which words are Polish modern and which are archaic or out of use.
Though I understand that some Poles would want to rid of those words in their vocabulary which are similar to Russian...
As with certain modern languages, related word stock often retains a slightly different, i.e. perhaps more formal, caste in some cases, or even an old-fashioned ring, c.f. Polish "mówić" vs. Ukrainian "mowit" etc...
definitely not studying languages
Definitely not from google translate
Another example may be "gwara" = dialect in Polish/"gwar" = noisy, distracting speaking vs. "govorit", the standard Russian word for "speak":-)
From Proto-Slavic *govoriti, from Proto-Indo-European *gow(H)- ("to call, cry").
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C#Etymology
English - Polish - Russian
Bed - łóżko, łoże - Loże (archaic)
Lips - Usta - Usta (archaic)
Frost - Mróz - Moroz
Chill - Chłód - Cholod
Tie - Was borrowed from what languages?
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C#Etymology
One could choose words that are completely different in the two languages such as the words for bed, tie (worn round the neck by men), chill/cold, lips and many more
English - Polish - Russian
Bed - łóżko, łoże - Loże (archaic)
Lips - Usta - Usta (archaic)
Frost - Mróz - Moroz
Chill - Chłód - Cholod
Tie - Was borrowed from what languages?
Polish "lody" = ice-cream vs. Russian marazhenie(??) = ice-cream cf. "mrózić" (Pol.) to freeze......
"Mrózenie" = freezing (as a noun, NOTHING to do with ice-creamLOL)
"Mrózenie" = freezing (as a noun, NOTHING to do with ice-creamLOL)
Please, study Russian first. Ice cream in Russian is ''morożennoje''. Due to reduced unstressed vocal it may sound like ''marożennoje''. Word ''lody'' would be understood by a Russian like ''icicles". Not to distant from ''ice cream''...
You see, Vlad! Point proven:-)
Apologies for the faulty orthography. Unlike you, I don't always have a google translate at the ready twenty-four-sevenLOL
A common pattern difference between Polish and Russian, is precisely this "added" vowel such as "m[o]r." vs. "mr....", g[o]lodny" vs. "głodny" etc...
...Polish "sklep" (standard word for "shop"/"store") vs. Russian "sklep" (a sort of dirty cellar or room, scarcely a boutique and similar establishment :-))
The list is indeed a long one!
lol
Apologies for the faulty orthography. Unlike you, I don't always have a google translate at the ready twenty-four-sevenLOL
A common pattern difference between Polish and Russian, is precisely this "added" vowel such as "m[o]r." vs. "mr....", g[o]lodny" vs. "głodny" etc...
...Polish "sklep" (standard word for "shop"/"store") vs. Russian "sklep" (a sort of dirty cellar or room, scarcely a boutique and similar establishment :-))
The list is indeed a long one!
lol
Which list? There was no Polish word ''sklep'' in my list. There is word ''Sklepienie'' which means vault. Is it wrong? Do not make me laugh. If there would be many mistakes they and you would already list them all immediately.
I'm merely speaking in general, Vlad! The "list" to which I was referring is in the abstract:-) Odd that you didn't pick up on it. Other than that, your English is rather good.
Other than that, your English is rather good.
Thanks, but you overestimate. My largest problem with languages is pronunciation. English is a hard one. But doesn't go in comparison to French which is by far more difficult. However in private conversation I have no more problems. Listening to radio or TV (not loud enough) could be challenging. Polish pronounce is difficult either. What is your native language? Are you a Sorb? There is a "Krabat" novel in which one of the guys (a Sorb) got name Lyzko. It is based on Wendish legend.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krabat
And your nickname?
A Sorb?? Scarcely! Nor a Serb, nor any Slav, in fact. I'm a bilingual US-born and raised German bilingual:-)
Tie - Was borrowed from what languages?
This one is actually quite interesting. The Polish word "kravat" is borrowed from French "cravat", which is a poorly-formed Frenchified form of the Croatian word for Croatia. Apparently, some Croatian mercenaries serving in France in the seventeenth century wore distinctive neck scarves that caught the eye of the Frenchmen of the time, who introduced it into their fashion repertoire. It eventually evolved into the necktie we know today, as well as what is now known in English as the cravat.
Then what about your user name? Lyżko is a common Slavic family name (including Russian, Ukrainian).
Vlad, "łyżka" simply means "spoon", "łyżkO" would be the (non-existent) Vocative Case:-)
LOL
I mean, I guess "łyżko" would be conceivable in Polish, merely unusual, to downright odd! Imagine for example in English calling out "O' spoon!!" People would think that rather weird, I'd expect:-)
Then again, Polish also has the possible (yet unused) neuter forms of the first person in the past tense "Ja byłom..." . presumably if a child were speaking. A shame noone's ever been able to test out that theoryLOL
LOL
I mean, I guess "łyżko" would be conceivable in Polish, merely unusual, to downright odd! Imagine for example in English calling out "O' spoon!!" People would think that rather weird, I'd expect:-)
Then again, Polish also has the possible (yet unused) neuter forms of the first person in the past tense "Ja byłom..." . presumably if a child were speaking. A shame noone's ever been able to test out that theoryLOL
Wow! That's quite a list! Incidentally, the normal word in Russian for horse is łoszad' and for dog -- sobaka.
If you want to specify a sex of an animal you never should tell ''loszad'' or ''sobaka'' if this is a male. Only ''koń'' or ''pios''. Loszad' and sobaka stand for a female or neutral sex only.
Names of tools are common Polish surnames: £opata, Kosa, Piła, etc. so why not £yżka. If someone was called that, some one else might say: "£opato, ruszaj się" so why not £yżko. Some 30 people in Poland sign themselves £yżka.
£opata, Kosa, Piła,
Absolutely same words in Serbian, too. Also, `Pila` is same as `Testera`. Synonyms.
"nedela" = Russian "week" > "ne" + "dela" = not work vs. "niedziela" = Polish "Sunday"
....ad infinitum!
Ooops! "not" "do". Typo, sorry:-)
....ad infinitum!
Ooops! "not" "do". Typo, sorry:-)
"nedela" = Russian "week" > "ne" + "dela" = not work vs. "niedziela" = Polish "Sunday"
....ad infinitum!
....ad infinitum!
English - Polish - Russian
Monday - Poniedziałek - Poniedielnik
Tuesday - Wtorek - Wtornik
Wedneday - Środa - Srieda
Thursday - Czwartek - Czietwierg
Friday - Piątek - Piatnica
Saturday - Sobota - Subota
Very different?
.....Sunday - Vozkresenyie!
And that's similar to Polish????!!
And that's similar to Polish????!!