By linguists Serbian is in between Polish and Russian. Its logical considering that old core of our civilization was situated in what are now Serbian lands on Danube, Sava and Morava rivers. That zone existed as Sarmatian/Proto Slavic core before Ice age, during and after last glaciation. Core then shifted in what we know as Sarmatia Asiatica. Then, into Great Moravia and Kieven Rus. After that core moved to Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Finally, core zone returned to Serbian lands.
In pre-historic times we know that Sarmatia Europae (togather with core in Serbian lands) had one more core. It was in ancient Arkona.
primary zone of expansion (re-colonization of their old lands) of Proto Slavs (ie Sarmatians/Thracians) after last Ice age, some 12.000 years ago
Then, entire Europe (not only Europe) was populated with Sarmats. Those who would later become Russians, as genetic science confirms, separated from Proto Slavic population in what is now Poland and moved more eastern. At first, they were known as Scythians. Buda who invented Budism was Scythian. But all Sarmats were also in history remembered as Arians or Hyperboreans.
i heard from friend of mine today very interesting thing today, regarding this topic.
Half jokingly he told me story about origin of `PENDRAGON` word/surname among English nobility. Its from Polish PAN-. Listen, story is about one Sarmation who was from region of what is today`s Poland. He was son of some local warlord, had big nose and big penis and was also true master of war-craft, so his battle-brothers called him Dragon (in Pl. Smok). Anyway, story further says that during one night he covertly came to one English lady and had sex with her. He was good, gave a lot of sperm to her and she got son. Now, English as English, ultimately were happy and in memory of that `Smok`, the night `Dragon`, they gave name Uther Pendragon to the child (most of Sarmats that came to Britian back then were from Poland and among them word `Pan` dominated). That Pendragon is English deformation of Pandragon (Pan-dragon). Uther is from `uter, uterati`, what in old Slavic (ie Sarmatian, even in today`s Serbian) means `to penetrate, blow in, enforce`. See, its because of Pan Smok Uterivac/Jebac (ie penetrator). At the end, its not clear who penetrated the lady, that Smok or King Arthur himself (as we know he was also Sarmatian from what is now Dalmatia). But, in any case English got their Pendragon.
ah yes, i forgot to tell you. That lady was a nymphomaniac. So, only good God knows which Pan visited her that erotic night, Arthur or Smok. Maybe even both.
it's ok Vlad, we all know that Russian and Polish have similar vocabulary in their cores - then didn't stop both nations to fight wars though - hopefully we won't see any more of these
it's ok Vlad, we all know that Russian and Polish have similar vocabulary in their cores
All of whom? I suspect many people in Poland are ignorant about that. It would be a shocking discovery to them. I feel many believe that not only Russians but even Ukrainians originally spoke some barbarian Asian language and this is just some borrowings from Polish which made Polish and Ukrainian just a bit similar.
then didn't stop both nations to fight wars though
All of whom? I suspect many people in Poland are ignorant about
hmm maybe I put too much trust in my fellow Poles - I personally learned Russian in elementary school and was ever since aware of things our languages share (but also in notable differences) - well we should bear in mind that there are now generations of Poles who barely had ever contact with Russian (but my 10-year-old nephew knows cyka-blyat from web-based games :P
hmm it's not that I knew every single Russian word you posted to be honest - more like about half of them - but I am not surprised with similarities between the two languages
Vlad I must admit I very much like the Russian language especially it's melodiousness - but I like quite a number of languages for their sound including German
to my embarassment though when I met Russian people in England in the early 2000's most of words that came to my mind while trying to speak Russian were Czech - to my justification after my school years i had almost none contact with your language and instead I watched a lot Czech TV which I preffered to Polish TV stations - I live near the border with the Czech Republic
Unfortunately for me, I am gramatically-challenged when learning languages. I can learn many new words and phrases easily, even if not found in my own native language (e.g. kvinna, pojke) but I struggle with grammar and conjugation of verbs in foreign languages. I've always liked Poland and in a way it already looks like a well-developed country. I like the culture and it's a great place. If I could gasp its grammar I'd gladly learn PL. Unfortunately my native language has lost all cases so to us learning grammar with case systems is hard. Gramatically Swedish looks easier to me lol.
to my justification after my school years i had almost none contact with your language and instead I watched a lot Czech TV
Can you communicate in Czech? I've got some friends who live close to the border, and they're useless in Czech. I even know one girl that lives in Kudowa-Zdrój and she can't put together a grammatically correct sentence in Czech - in her words, the Czechs in the border areas understand Polish and the Poles understand the local Czech dialect, so no-one bothers to actually learn it.
well i'm not fluent but I can hold a basic conversation even though I haven't practiced in years and it's been long since I watched Czech TV now -we bought a satelite Polsat subsciption and there are no Czech channels in the package - anyway I can understand much more than I can actively would be use in a conversation - but it is similar in all languages I know to some extent including English
Czechs in the border areas understand Polish and the Poles understand the local Czech dialect, so no-one bothers to actually learn it
In general Czechs can understand more Polish than Poles understand Czech, possibly because they get much more varied input. There's the difference between colloquial and literary (much bigger than the gap in Polish) and dialects (also more different from each other than Polish dialects) and for generations they regularly heard lots of Slovak...
Poles mostly just hear standard Polish which is convenient in some ways... and not so much in others.
I remember one time overhearing a Czech guy in the Warsaw airport (pre-addition) trying to communicate with a lady in a kiosk... A fine exercise in futility. I gave up on buying whatever I had gone for and thought I'd just let nature takes its course.
Czechs are a unique nation who regardless hundreds of years of Austrian/German rule and cultural influence and large Celtic/Germanic admixtures managed to preserve generous Slavic humor, Slavic beauty and Slavic language more or less free from foreign borrowings which was resurrected from obliviation. They have a unique Slavic culture which also absorbed many features from German/Western culture such a cleanness and accuracy, high quality and sometimes extreme emancipation/frivolousness (by Russian or Polish standards). There are many laughable false friends between Russian and Czech. For example:
English - Czech - Russian interpretation
Attention! Police is watching! - Pozor! Policie varuje! - Shame! Police is stealing!
The Czechs were far kinder to their Jews en masse than either the Poles, the Hungarians, certainly the Rumanians, even the Russians. Only the Albanians and the Bulgarians appeared to do what was necessary NOT to curry favor with Germany.
Aside from false friends I've mentioned, Czech seems closest to Polish:-)
In Polish czas=time, in Russian czas=hour. In Polish godzina=hour, in Russian god=year and "godina" is an archaic word used for some abstract period of time.
In my opinion the largest disadvantages of Slavic languages: 1) Many words are long and sometimes difficult to pronounce. 2) A lot of consonants. 3) A lot of "r", "sh", "sch". I would say they sound more melodic than majority of Germanic languages, but less melodic than Romance languages. Do you think a reform is needed?
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