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plk123   
16 Sep 2010
Travel / A video I'd like to share: Zakopane, 8-hour Hike [VIDEO] [26]

Yes, Pinoy :)

i knew it, cool. :)

i introduced Smokie mountains to my pinoy bud last year.. he had a great time too. no snow however but the last day we were in the backcountry it went from ~32F at sunrise to 90F+ in the mid afternoon.
plk123   
16 Sep 2010
News / Possible consequences of the Eurocup 2012 in Poland. [14]

after them nobody knows what to do with the stadiums.

what do you mean? all the stadiums are club stadiums except the one in Warsaw which is the national stadium.

Umm...noooo....I think "revival" as in "breathing life into a something near dead" fits it well!

i agree.. there needs to be way to much improvement to just simply be improvement. rebirth could be another word to describe the current dismal situation of PL futbol.
plk123   
15 Sep 2010
Love / Polish girls and jealousy. They always suspect I have other gfs. [33]

Why are polish girls so jealous?They always suspect I have other gfs.

They are into monogamous relationships, and they mean it! ;)

no, low self esteem and they don't trust because they know in their own hearts how they are... always looking for that greener grass.
plk123   
14 Sep 2010
Life / The "Rudification" Of Society - Is This Happening In Poland As Well? [146]

or maybe you're making bad assumptions and generalisation ? think about it!

nope, you're the one who jumped to a conclusion..

well, do you have any proof of your words, or you just - feel so? )

you must have been asleep the last decade or so.. hmm.. i can't really help your ignorance.. that is not why i post here.. you are more then welcome to figure this out on your own. i'm not up to spoon feeding you.

In this passage the Bible condemns gay ritual sex in a temple and/or males having sex in a woman's bed.

and no.. this passage doesn't mention the woman's bed at all.. read it again..
and the other funny thing is that you only attempted to discredit 2 out of 5 of MG's points and you completely failed at one.. basically he pwnd you.. haha!

i do not think so, no one can be worse then deserted bush.

yup

In Europe secularism is the religion.

how does that statement even make any sense to you, i will never know.. google the definition of the word "religion"

Even if one holds that religion is false, only a close minded secularist can deny that religion was the driving force for nearly all the uniquely great art, literature, economic and even scientific advances of the West

huh? the first.. some but definitely not all.. and as to science, religion actually stifled it for centuries.
as to the second, religion drove the greek philosophers? is that right? lol

No; left wingers and secularists have a great many similarities.

in your mind only.. imho, it is exactly the opposite as demonstrated by USA in the recent decade.

Secularism and ecology is now the new religion of the millennium. All nature-based spirituality,

are you sure that's new? i implore you do a bit of studying sometime.

And for the rest, his speech reminds me about the recurring ranting every grown up generation does about the current "impossible" youth...;)
It is as regular as it is wrong!

lol.. agreed.

The idea of no big government is working well for Somalia.

and Afghanistan the two inoculators of knowledge. :D

Yeah...they should be burned on stakes! *shakes fist*

rofl

There are no socialist countries in Europe.

what? ever hear of Sweden?

Oh, I am sorry : the liberals and secularism is responsible for the break up of the family unit, while US has one of the highest number of divorces and it is not even secular, nor liberal - how would you explain that?

he can't as he's fervently religious. lol

Currently the family is number one, as more Poles spend time in the UK and other secular countries were the family is not of such high importance, they will return to PL with different priorities.

you are giving the "west" way too much credit.. poles are more then capable to do this to themselves. but hey, if you like scapegoats then there you go.

aphrodisiac:
that was taken out of context and was directed to Plk and has nothing to do with the discussion we are having

I accept that.

yeah but it actually kind of goes along with this discussion too..

I would disagree since our society on the whole is the least rude ever in comparison to what our ancestor's behavior.

no, i disagree and i even posted a link to prove it so as well as forwarded a thought to the same.

, nobody is shoving any religion down your throat anymore.

that is not true either.. maybe it is so in canadia but in the USA there definitely is a pretty high religious fervor.

Christmas address but some vague "Happy Holiday".

because it is the holidays and not only x-mas.. you can't be that dumb, can you?

Well...they should have openly the Winter Solstice back...after all the Christians took an existing holy day and only renamed it to suit their own fashion. ;)

To think the christian religion or any holy book whatsoever is needed for creativity and philosophy and what else is just crap. Mankind did well before some people got nailed on some crosses in some desert and will do well afterwards too...

right on

have taken the notion of 'freedom of religion' and twisted it into 'freedom from religion'.

nothing wrong with that..

Sure it does.
aphrodisiac:
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No.

care to expound? lol

It was like she saw that I was uncomfortable and just decided to take no action. She saw I was peeved at her

you really should have cracked your bible and read her a few passages from it.. according to many here that would have solved this issue.

hahahaha
plk123   
14 Sep 2010
Life / Passing your Polish language and culture to your kids [74]

It's easy for a child to learn 2 languages perfectly.

No to kiedy chcesz się spotkać?
I agree with this statement.. if one parent speaks one language and the other the other language to their toddler then there is really no reason the child can't be perfectly bi-lingual. i know of plenty of children that are this way.

CALM DOWN!!!

yeah, no kidding.

In America, foreign langauegs are taught too late, in secondary school if at all.

you either live in a crappy state or something.. because most kids in the sates i know learn foreign languages at least in high school and many do so in elementary school.

actually, I remember studies that show that children that spoke foreign language at home, upon entering primary school were at a disadvantage, and frequently confused the two langauges.

yes but that is only very temporary.. like in K or 1st grade.. after that it's a definite advantage.

If the parents speak in a language to the child since the child's birth there is no need for a specialist. None.

yup.

glad to see you around

the culture will die off and they would be totally affrimated into a melting pot socity.

there isn't really anything wrong with that either, imho

The above is biggest load of bull I have ever heard.I have direct experience of this situation with one of my own children and know at least six other bi-lingual children of a similar age group that have had the same problem and been treated at the age of 7/8.

maybe just maybe your children are a bit slow.. darius is right and that has been my experience too,.

You should understand this is NOT a pissing contest for who's child is better, it is a place to discuss common interests.

then do so as you're the only who is pissing in the wind here.
plk123   
14 Sep 2010
Travel / Getting from Krakow to Warsaw [99]

busportal.pl/busy/rozklad.php

there are some midnight and 4am buses but the shortest ride is 5h and some are 8h or even more.
plk123   
14 Sep 2010
Life / The "Rudification" Of Society - Is This Happening In Poland As Well? [146]

faux newz paint the left to be extreme, when it isn't necessarily.

I only swallow the truth.

the truth as spoon fed to you by fauzx, limbo, beck.. right on.. lol

A great many of people (not Christian's thinks they're better than other people:)

you're working with bad assumptions, as always.

hum?!taking in riddles ?

not a riddle but if it seems to you then go ahead and solve it.. it's not really all that hard.
plk123   
13 Sep 2010
Life / The "Rudification" Of Society - Is This Happening In Poland As Well? [146]

You missed the premise - as usual. Perhaps f stop can point it out to you.

no i didn't.. the problem is that you think that faux newz is accurate while they are quite picky.. they feed you what they want to deed you and you seem to swallow it all as the total truth.

Is that why there are so many dissenting opinions on Fox News?

those aren't really dissenting views.. hardly any of those peeps are mainstream.. geraldo the voice of the left? laughable at best. lol

That's what happens when you become an MSNBC and Huffington Post addict.

i'm no addict of either.. i read wide array of publications.. i like AP or Reuters the best.

nice to see that you are not even trying to defend your statement

your statement said it all.. you made my point..what else should i add to it?

they don't ...

lol.. right..

no, I don't.

of course you do.. look at the rest of your post.. you're jumping at me with some made up shlt.. you're effed up in your head missy.. not sure if it's heavey drugs or the booze but either way, you're mind is mush. so, i tend to not answer anything you have to say as you don't matter one bit to me and you think you know something and even everything. lmao.

This belief in the Earth as the center of the universe and that everything else (sun included) revolved around the Earth - led to the great clash between Galileo and the Church establishment, or more broadly, between science and religion.

so the bible is right, right? lol
plk123   
13 Sep 2010
Life / The "Rudification" Of Society - Is This Happening In Poland As Well? [146]

However the Bible condemns: male rape of other men, people having sex that violates their sexual orientation (for example heterosexuals having sex with a member of the same sex or homosexuals having sex with a member of the opposite sex), men sexually abusing children and people engaging in bestiality (having sex with animals).

yet, the priests have been the worst abusers of them all.. hmm

The Bible warns that sex outside of marriage is dangerous and will bring troubles, one of which is that a woman might have to raise a child by herself, which is undoubtedly difficult. No sweeping condemnation of single motherhood whatsoever.

but many priest or preachers do condemn single moms.. etc.

That was your most convincing argument so far. And not rude at all.

i threw one at you because you deserve it.. while all your posts are full of insults without any reason at all.. just look the way you're responding to MG..
plk123   
13 Sep 2010
Life / The "Rudification" Of Society - Is This Happening In Poland As Well? [146]

Such as?

some of the extremely divisive interpretations of the bible.. the intolerance towards gays or single mothers or whatever.. we really could go on and on about this.. the bible has too many stories in it that do contradict themselves and many christians think they are better then everyone else.. those are issues that only add to the problems we are facing today.. they aren't healing.

depends on the situation:). I have my life and react when it is necessary.

right but the way you said what you said was that it's only up to others.., that's part of the problem.. you're pointing fingers.. point it at yourself at times when it is needed.

You don't seriously expect a rational answer from him, do you? I love it when he pretends to be a hard-core atheist, so cute, all the fake outrage, fervor, the whole enchilada :)

thanks for proving that the righties are the ones who are rudest.. look at what you write.. it's all in attack mode only.. so eff u, just like told you before.. grow up and we'll talk.

His argumentation is weak, though.

and you provide no argument at all thus you are the weak one.

Fox News stated that they would not send a reporter to cover the book burnings. All the other networks were going to send one. So in this instance you agree with Fox News!

i thought you said faux newz covers everything.. so if they weren't planning to cover this then how are they even close to being unbiased?

You really should understand something before making yourself sound so ignorant. Generally speaking, Libertarians are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Hope that helps.

no, that is not true.. you're talking out your arse.. libertarians aren't socially liberal.. they are socially non engaged.. fiscally conservative, yes, but then i didn't say anything about that.

Of course Rupert Murdoch has the controlling voting interest.

and everything he controls is very much to the right and he won't let any of his holding to be anything else but far right.

He said undisputable. Please don't dispute it. Please.

but it is indisputable.. if you or babi don't think so then post prove to the contrary.
plk123   
12 Sep 2010
Life / The "Rudification" Of Society - Is This Happening In Poland As Well? [146]

That's a BS. It has been proven that "Rightists" states in the US are far more generous and compassionate than the "leftists" one. Quit your silly attempts of denigrating conservatives.

what the heck do you know about the states? btw. that is not true at all.. the red states are the ones full of absurdity etc..

No, MG, the problem of rudness, vulgarity ,decadence, and violence is more of the Left; just look around you.

again, that is not true.. the righties are the ones full of rudeness... but rudeness has increased in all circles.

It's another BS. Read about a degradation of society in the UK with Tony Blair coming to power.

no, US went down the shlthole under bush2 more then anyone before him.

others shout down conservative speakers on campuses

this is a famous rightie tactic.. don't blame the lefties except for maybe being copycats.

And the Republican party is known for it's dirty way of dealing with things when not in power.

and when in power too.. we had to endure 8 years of that kind of lunacy..

I am rude to people who are rude to me, and compassionate to people who are compassionate towards me. Simple.

so, you're never the first? you're only a reactionary life?

The point I made is this; the general news outlets ignored a story (one of many) that shows liberals, leftists, rioting and damaging property and scuffling with the police.

your point isn't really on topic thus moot.

Read the link I added in the previous post. Our Tea Party friends know how to dish out some violence and damaging of properties as well. And if I assume right that those pro-lifers are part of the same target audience as the Tea Parties, they even kill ppl. And imo that is a bit worse than damaging some property or shouting through a conservative speech.

you are right.. the lifers are definitely the religious right..conservatives are the ones who started the shouting down the democratic speakers. this is not really a leftist tactic.. leftist tactic is to try to talk about the issues..

The media doesn't censor left violence as info on the disturbances (which probably are only minor incidents, but given the way the Republicans always exaggerate things, it's a "huge" ocurrance) is widely available on the internet.

correct once again

One more quick point; accusing Fox News of being a Republican outlet is laughable when comparing it to NBC; MSNBC, CBS and ABC which can more easily be accused of being Democratic Party fronts.

it's not laughable.. it is the case and everyone knows it.. the others may be leaning a bit left right now but definitely aren't mouthpieces of the left.

accusations against Fox News fall flat

no, they don't fall flat, tis the truth

On staff are liberals who daily contribute

yeah, who? lol

That's more fair coverage than the other news outlets give.

fair they are not and they are not even close to neutral as news ought to be.. just report it, don't spin it.

Fox News is owned by a member of the Bush family, I forget his name. And don't forget that the Democrats are only recently in power. And didn't Fox already called Bush winner before all Floridian votes were counted in 2000?

no, not a bush family member.. and yes, they called bush a winner way before half the votes were even counted.. shows their bias.

I've been to four tea party events and therefore I know better than you. I go as an observer and those gatherings are home-spun, vocal yet peaceful and only those who get their news from the vast liberal outlets don't seem to know this. These are good people.

yes, good people but all of them rather conservative and brainwashed in their view.

As to threats, you are probably unfamiliar with the ones that Republican candidates received, right? Here is just one example;

yes one republican as compared to dozens of democrats.. it's a laughable argument at best.

Odd, how that coincided with the beginning of economic troubles.

the economic troubles started with bush tax cuts for the rich under the repo controlled congress. funny how your memory is selectively short.

Nothing happens in a vacuum. Every choice produces consequences, every action causes a reaction. The rise of libertinism in the news, entertainment and advertising media and even in the school system provokes an understandable backlash which libertine-liberal leftists may see as a hate offensive. But they fail to see that their libertine offensive disgusts many people who don't want their kids exposed to all that pûrn and overall permissiveness. This functions not only within a single society. It is not libertine lifestyles that may well speed up the world-wide Muslim reaction to the fith and decadence? Marx once said the capitalists will sell the rope on which they will hanged. Maybe the decadent West is actually libertinising itself to death without realising it.

you post more and more senile nonsense.. may want to check in with your psychologist.. most capitalists are fervent rightwingers.

What if people switch parties and go to the other side. Do they alter their behavior accordingly?

of course..

That would be my mistake - I was talking too much from a Dutch perspective

yes, you are right and yes it is due to the right being in power.. at least that is so in the usa. and no, i don't think that it's a mistake to bring up right/left.

Weapons of mass distraction.

lol.. that's good. :D

But I was wondering, do we see a general trend here or is it limited to a few isolated incidents?

yes, it seems to be a trend across the board.

thinking people do not watch fix news and zimmy is a picture boy of the right wing stupid aka republican party

lol.. of course one has to watch faux newz just to keep tabs on the opposition.

we need third party in united States that will represent middle class and working people as i see it now republicans are robing middle class to give to rich and banks and democrats robing middle class to give to poor and banks ether way we are screwed.

yeah, i agree

moderately right wing Fox News.

lol.. that's a laugh.. faux newz is way, way to the right.. not moderate in the least.. lmao

That would surprise my Libertarian friends of whom I have many. Amazing how frequently you are mistaken, isn't it?

no, he must be spot on.. that's the way i see it.

another misguided idiots, they think the corporation is good but they corporations and banks are evil just look at the news and answer this.

the libertarians are even worse the middle of the road repubs.. they have 0 social conscience.. 0.. the gov is only there for corporations.

Big corporations run the show, and the masses are too busy squabbling over which party they were born in to, to notice that they are getting the scraps.

The only reason there are two parties, is to maintain the illusion of democracy.

true.. the left/right isn't really nonsense but they are harder and harder to distinguish between these days.

In general, people of right-leaning conservative persuasion tend to be more for politeness, civility and restraint as traditonal values than many leftists and anarchists who equate rudeness, vulgarity and aggressiveness with freedom.

i don't agree.. but i m thinking that you are thinking of the generations of old.. however that is not true in today's world.

That everybody is freaked out about crazy Muslim reactions just reinforces the point he was trying to make.

he really isn't/wasn't making a point.. he's just an idiot seeking attention.

It is a move away from Christian values and a move to this so called "enlightenment" that is the problem.

no it is not the problem.. hanging on to those outdated "ideas" of Christianity is the problem, imho.

Would the reactions be the same if someone decided to burn bibles?

of course.

No, the liberals would happily supply the bibles and the gasoline.

lol.. i know i would. ;)

Entire cities in the U.S. have been dominated and forced to comply to their politico-religious ideology

you are a ranting lunatic if you don't post up some proof.

Let me remind you that it was the IMAM in New York who threatened retaliation NOT the knee-jerk reaction of a few scared citizens.

what are you going on about? you obviously got your info from faux newz or glen beck.

This is actually nonsense.

yes it is.. p3 hasn't been making much sense as of late.. i am starting to wonder if he isn't Socrates or something..

being polite is a matter of character, not of political orientation.

yes and no.. there seems to be a tendency of the right (here in the USA) to be less polite then the left, imho

For a self-confessed Libertarian you lean quite far over to the right-hand side. There might be some truth in Marek1111's remark that you're a poster-boy for the Republicans, given the soothing way you talk about those Tea Party guys and the way you talk about the left-wingers. You may not be a poster-boy, but it's clear where your sympathies lay.

right on.. and he is.. but like i said, the libertarians can be even more to the right then repubs sometimes.

I always wonder where ppl like you get their information. Hearsay? Probably.

from another like minded bigot.. i have french friends too and none say anything of that sorts plus it is a pretty well known fact that in france, people assimilate more/better then most other eu countries.

And by the way, with this post you give evidence of possessing not much respect for those ppl at all. And of course in such circumstances, fairy tales become very quickly real stories.

so true..

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now to the topic at hand.. i think there is definite proof that the righties are less civilized, if you will.. just look at this thread.. the first bunch of posters are all right and they attack you right away without really staying on topic.. there is all the proof you need.

and not many people really touched the polish part of the topic which actually surprised me a bit.. so here it goes.. yes, rudeness is on the rise in PL.. the evidence of that are some of the posters from PL that post here. look at sok and torq.. both are/were extremely intolerable and rude.. then of course the 30th anniversary of solidarity and the way those celebrations went down.. not so pretty.. there was a vid posted in that thread, i think, that showed that pretty clearly.. the lady's name was crookednose (translated), i think.. and she had to chastise others who were so rudely trying to silence her and of course the verbal spanking kaczynski got from her was also proof of the way things are.. she wasn't too nasty at all but what was bothersome was that she actually HAD to do it based on his behaviour.

now, i also came across this article in polish which deals exactly with what you're after.. you may want to run it through a translator to get the gist of it:

The reason for the increase in the number of crimes among youth in Poland - according to police - including lack of authority. - For many young people are no longer the authority of parents or teachers . Looking for them among their peers who are able to quickly , often in a manner inconsistent with the right to earn money , or simply use violence against others . Also lowers the age at which young people turn to alcohol , drugs or undergo sexual initiation - said Sokolowski.
plk123   
12 Sep 2010
History / Poles back to the Elbe (Łaba)? [28]

german lands

we merely go polish lands`back.. you stole them from us a century before

We surely lost our lands in the east because of our own failure (starting the war), wouldn't you say so too?

u were denying this in another thread..

Yeah...they coddled us...

what, usa`didn't? u can't deny that

Poland needs to give up the past and look to the future. If they would have done this after the Polish-Russo war in the early 1920's they may have been better prepared for WWII and just maybe avoided the 1940's Polish holocaust. If Poland doesn't or can't change, they may be facing another holocaust in the future.

that is 1 heck of a stupid statement.. it ranks right up there with the worst of pf
plk123   
12 Sep 2010
History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]

Yes,some Poles started it by attacking the radio station in Gleiwitz.

and you ought to know that is a bunch of BS.. german troop clothed in PL uniforms did all that.

Actually, the wench is right, Poland did preliminary mobilization in March seeing the German threat looming,

right.. the germans were marching on austria and czech then

I don't think that Poland was the aggressor in this whole thing.

yeah, you don't think.. PL was NOT the aggressor at all.

don't think for a moment she doesn't speak out what many think anyhow...

nobody said there aren't many nutters along with her out there

Steinbach is soooo right!
You prove it over and over again...thank you!

no she is not and you prove it by your denials.

"an encouragement for all the Germans in Poland to go west, to Germany proper, where they belong".[60]

and that is true right there.
plk123   
9 Sep 2010
Life / Before 1980 family in Poland was friendly towards immigrants; now they are not [11]

This is precisely why they have turned hostile towards you. Presents have always been expected, especially from family living outside of poland. Not just any presents, but really nice and expensive things. So it's not surprising to me that your family has shunned you when you stopped sending them presents and invites to the UK.

that's just stupid.. wtf?
plk123   
9 Sep 2010
Life / Poland, maybe the world's last bastion of faith [67]

Plk123, you missed the point again.

maybe you ought to make your points clearer then.. but i didn't miss the point, i know exactly how polish catholics are.. i have said what you just said over and over again here.. poles tend to be sunday catholics.. mon-sat is another story..