History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


No,because it's simply wrong.Poland is Central European country.I don't care if someone's calling Poland Eastern Europe as much as other posters here but it's simply not right.We are not Western or Eastern European country.Poland is mixture of these cultures.

P.S.Edited.
When someone reffers to Eastern Europe it usually has dregatory hint in it.As is the only valuable culture is in Western Europe.In the same manner some Europeans say words like "African","Asian".

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


Amen to that.

History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [491]

and 90's

History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [491]

I must say I'm really impressed with your arguments.You're close to making me change my mind.
And now for real.
Kondzior if you want ppl to care about ideas and freedom you need to secure they basic needs.Of corse ppl that have problems in life will be more interested in having food and shelter that freedom.You won't feed your children with freedom.


They still does that.

History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [491]


May be since we are not just homo sapiens we are homo sapiens sapiens but that concept evidently didn't stick to you in school?Stop insulting other posters and try to discuss.Who knows?Maybe you're going to find something interesting in exercising your brain?

There were good things in socialist Poland and we shouldn't reject everything just because it was created in that period.

History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [491]

Actually that part is the same.There were always children that went hungry to school and meals in school cantines look the same.At least in my town.

History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [491]


More kindergardens and nurseries.More FREE after school activities.Corporation's holidays.Material safety.
I'm not saying that socialist times were good but there were good things about it.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


But that's the title of this thread.

Love / What are the best love poems in Polish to receive? [77]

I like this one:
Rozmowa liryczna
- Powiedz mi, jak mnie kochasz.

- Powiem.

- Więc?

- Kocham Cię w słońcu. I przy blasku świec.

Kocham Cię w kapeluszu i w berecie.

W wielkim wietrze na szosie i na koncercie.

W bzach i w brzozach, i w malinach, i w klonach.

I gdy śpisz. I gdy pracujesz skupiona.

I gdy jajko roztłukujesz ładnie -

nawet wtedy, gdy ci łyżka spadnie.

W taksówce. I w samochodzie. Bez wyjątku.

I na końcu ulicy. I na początku.

I gdy włosy grzebieniem rozdzielisz.

W niebezpieczeństwie. I na karuzeli.

W morzu. W górach. W kaloszach. I boso.

Dzisiaj. Wczoraj. I jutro. Dniem i nocą.

I wiosną, kiedy jaskółka przylata.

- A latem jak mnie kochasz?

- Jak treść lata.

- A jesienią, gdy chmurki i humorki?

- Nawet wtedy, gdy gubisz parasolki.

- A gdy zima posrebrzy ramy okien?

- Zimą kocham Cię jak wesoły ogień.

Blisko przy Twoim sercu. Koło niego.

A za oknami śnieg. Wrony na śniegu.

Poetic conversation

- Tell me how much you love me.
- I will.
- Well then?
- I love you in the sunlight. And in the candlelight.
I love you wearing a hat and a beret.
On a concert, in a sharp wind and on a highway.
Love you among lilys and birches, raspberries and maple.
And while you are asleep or working more than ample.
Even when while breaking an egg you drop your spoon -
it is anyway true that I love you.
In a taxi, in a car. Beyond all dispute.
At the beginning and at the end of a route.
And when you are styling your hair with a comb or a slide.
In danger. And on a merry-go-round ride.
By the sea. In the mountains. In boots. And barefoot.
Today. Yesterday. And tomorrow. Days and nights.
And in the spring with the first swallow.
- And in the summer what your love means?
- The same as means the summer.
- And in the autumn, cloudy and moody?
- It means all to me even when you lose your brolly.
- And when the frost silvers the windows?
- Then my love is as hot as fire.
I am close to your heart. Always nearby.
And there is snow behind the windows. And there are crows.

Konstanty Ildefons Gałczyński

Food / 'Wigilia', the traditional Christmas Eve supper in Poland [77]


I like it,my family loves it.Depends how it's prepared and on your tastes.

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]


I was getting ready to writte something like "what the hell are you talking about" when I spoted that you used semicolon.
The only thing that I hate in the fact that they eat it is that when my mother boils them whole house stinks.When she's already cooking them they smell real nice thought.

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]


Many ppl likes them.I'm not one of them but my whole family would really suffer if you've banned flaki.

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]


Of course but still bigos or flaki are not to "pretty".

Food / 'Wigilia', the traditional Christmas Eve supper in Poland [77]

1-mushroom soup
2-barszcz/beetroot soup
And then all other dishes.You eat it when you like it.I usually start with the dishes I don't like (in my family you must try everything) and then eat my favourite dishes.

Food / 'Wigilia', the traditional Christmas Eve supper in Poland [77]


Yes.


I just love it.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


With so many idealogically different sources we hardly have a monopoly.Add to that internet and you have wide range of informations.


Parliamentary commisions are a joke.Always were.


Thankfuly it's not your decision to make.But out of curiosity-what would you use in replacement?What's your ideal system and whatppl would you use?

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


In this manner yes but creating administration to fight with corruption when in fact it's a tool to get more power is as sick as corruption itself.


I knew you'd say that.But even if we assume the same ppl are in charge today's Poland is not PRL.If you ask anybody(missing PRL or otherwise) they would tell you that it's not the same in 90%.


Look at my answer to Gumishu.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


In every country you have corruption but fighting with corruption shouldn't be treated as a tool to gain political power


No,by making enemies from our friends(or at least neutral).


I don't have to vote for PO in order to keep PiS from power.If voices are devided parties have to join their efforts and the party I'm voting for is not going to ally with PiS.


They finally had enough.


How did you make such assumption?This "Well" sounds protectional and I never treated you in this way.


Laws their created and atmosphear in which they ruled.


PRL-bis?Really?It's the weirdest expression I ever heard.In what manner today's Poland has enything to do with PRL?From what I read you don't live in Poland.Have you ever lived here?

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


Every second since they arrested someone.Place doesn't matter.If they've followed safety rules none of it would have happen.But these are the consequences of creating and using such forces "na kolanie"(on a knee-fast and not to neatly.) and for political reasons.


This is the excuse of every person that doesn't have friends-It's not that I'm mean and stupid
just ppl doesn't understand me and are jelaus of me.PiS made a mess from international relationships.


It's a wonder then that they never did it in the past.It was the only time teenagers protested Minister of Education.


It depends on the teacher.How come there are teachers that never have a problem with discipline.And even if he was doing good job with that(and I don't think so) it was overshadowed by his other ideas that screwed things up.


I already told you that I vote everytime.PiS has nothing to do with it.If you're refering to these words:


then yes.When I vote I try to choose ppl that are wise and responsible and by that keep lunatics away from the power.


I already gave you many arguments.But there is one good enough for me-I lived here when PiS was in charge,I had to follow their rules and I felt bad in my own country (besides many times Mr Kaczyński excluded me from being a real Pole in his speeches).And I wasn't the only one.The elections after their "5 minutes of fame" showed that many Poles thought the same.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


When police arrest someone that person is under their care and police is responsible for that person.Why in this case the rules should be different?

And as tp the Vip person-everyone has the right to go to bathroom they just didn't follow basic safety rules.
If that's not incompetence then I don't know what is.


So they are not credible.


Also The Netherlands,UK and France.


Because I remember their style,the mess,the accusation and all the other things I tried to avoid by voting.


You just stated that during Giertych's rule it was going ti the right direction.


And teenagers were following Tusk order?Why should they?They were protesting because they saw what was going on.


What this has to do with my understanding?I meant that I may complain about politics but never in the way: "Oh my,PO made a mess,some other party made a mess I wish PiS was in power again"When someone beats you you're not giving him a chance to hit you again.


I have a life?

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


And I fought that their job was to watch her.Female agent could go with her or they could simply search her and the bathroom and no gun would be used.This case just showed their incompetence.They should be happy she didn't try to shoot them.


They had many publications that were semi-professional.


It wasn't only him.I had many friends abroad at that time and most of them told the same story-ppl asking them what this whole mess is about.


I don't think so.I remember this period pretty good and I'm really grateful that it ended


First you accused me that I didn't have enough knowledge to make a statement and when I tell you that I studied pedagogics (meaning talking to ppl that were dealing with education almost all their lives and visiting many schools at different levels) and had family members at every level (meaning I knew what kids and parents are dealing with) you tell me that I'm not allowed to have strong opinion.Despite the fact that I can have strong opinion no matter how well acquainted with the subject I am you basically forbidden me from having my own point of view.What would satisfy you?Whom should I be in order to please your high standard?Minister of education?


First you say that it was great that they were able to do it and that Tusk would punish them and when I tell you that Giertych threatened them you say "Yeah,that's quite all right."


I may complain about many things but never about the fact that PiS is no longer in power.


Every time since I turned 18.And not only presidential and parliament elections but also EU and local.I remember first free elections when my mother took me with her and let me cross the names.I was so proud! Then she explained me why it's so important and what we can do by this.I never missed elections even when I had to get special document because I was out of my town on the day of elections.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


In my soap opera they showed how a women-still not proven guilty-had the oppurtunity (under CBA watch) to commit suicide.


I already told that it was political tool and many historians stated that IPN historians are not credible.


Communicating?It was rather yelling at their opponents.It was for show not information.


That's a wonder then that when I met a guy from Holland the first question (when we started more serious topics) was "What's going on in Poland?"


And I thought it was because Poland was in political mess.


As I said I was studying pedagogic at that time and had family members attending to every level of education.Believe me-I knew what was going on.And appropriate examples you can find above in my earlier post.


Actualy it was Giertych who told the teenagers that they will face consequences.

And I don't complain although I never voted for PO.I definately prefer today's political reality.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


Yeah,it's better to mess with everything without real knowledge and plan.Amnesty,kids with expanded matura couldn't take basic tests but their results were assumed by how they did on expanded tests and so on.He did everything to ruin education.


Maybe but that doesn't change the fact that the real scaring they did all by themselfs.I was scared when I thought what they can do next.


I don't want to talk specific person.IPN was used as a threat and by many ppl was viewed as a political tool.
Basically I was really happy when all this came to an end.I was sick of explaining to foreigners what's going on in Poland and feeling ashamed for all this mess.And after all Poles decided.They showed what they think about this government.This was the only good thing-they stimulated many ppl.

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]


No,not media,by the governments ideas.
CBA,IPN,constatnt accusations,3 press conferences a day.Teenagers protesting,Giertych stupid ideas,almost daily humiliation in international circles.

P.S.I must admit I was shocked to see who started this thread.It was a nice suprise.Good job Polonius! :)

News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

I can say one thing:


really suits them.
When PiS ruled the government was suspicious and ppl were scared.
I know I and my friends were scared for our future.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

It's the same thing just done by other means.And actually it's not women because it may lead to severe blood loss.

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]


Besides traitors he mentioned repopters.What argument could justify that?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


The 72 hours pill doesn't allow the egg to "stic" in uterus.The second one makes women's body to get rid of already nested egg.

There're some herbs that women can use to do the same thing with available products.

Language / Polish slang phrases - most popular. [606]

If in formal situations you say do widzenia.
If you're talking with friends you say na razie.
This poster's friends told him he speaks too formally.And I gave him words that can make his language more casual.

Language / Polish slang phrases - most popular. [606]


No,I didn't.
The casual form of "do widzenia" is "na razie" as well as "cześć".