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Khazar migrations to Eastern Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine [106]
quote=jon357]They are obscure. Very little is known about them compared to other societies of that Period[/quote]
What other societies of the period are you referring to? I suspect that you have none in mind and you are just claiming this due to your inability to admit that you were wrong (the frequent reader of this forum has seen you demonstrate this inability numerous times and it is hilarious!). The Khazars are known via the Kievan
Primary Chronicle as well as through Byzantine and Arab sources.
These studies (among others) refute the discredited Khazar theory which you're trying to promote for reasons unknown.
I am not promoting the Khazar theory. I am saying that you are lying when you claim that it is a "racist" theory and that you are lying when you claim that 'science' has discredited it. The first link you provided says the following:
The investigation of the genetic relationship among three Jewish communities revealed that Kurdish and Sephardic Jews were indistinguishable from one another, whereas both differed slightly, yet significantly, from Ashkenazi Jews. The differences among Ashkenazim may be a result of low-level gene flow from European populations and/or genetic drift during isolation. Admixture between Kurdish Jews and their former Muslim host population in Kurdistan appeared to be negligible. In comparison with data available from other relevant populations in the region, Jews were found to be more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians) than to their Arab neighbors.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1274378/
The reader should note that this study shows that there are indeed Jews with Turkic ancestry and thus leaves open the possibility that some Jews living today are indeed descendants of the Turkic Khazars as is the belief in the OP's family. So much for your claim that the first study you linked to refutes the Khazar theory, Jon357, although it does "refute the discredited Khazar theory" in the sense that it refutes its discreditation, but I suspect that you contradicted what you intended to say out of carelessness. (you surely can't have posted over 1,100 times in this forum in less than 4 months while choosing all of your words carefully.)
The second link you posted says the following:
Some genetic studies suggest that Jewish populations show substantial non-Jewish admixture and the occurrence of mass conversion of non-Jews to Judaism
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18733/?tool=pmcentrez
Again this refutes your claim that science has utterly refuted theories that claim that many of today's Jews are descendants of converts, such as the Khazars, jon357.
Your third link is a NY Times article about a study that does claim to refute the role of mass conversion in making the modern Jewish genome. So I guess we'd have to say that "the third time was the charm" for you, Jon357, you tried, and you tried, and you finally posted a link that, sort of, supports what you say about the refutation of the Khazar theory. Congratulations!
I do wish to take issue with the fact that you seem to be calling the OP, and his family, racists for believing that they have Khazar ancestry and that is just plain rude. Why would it be racist to believe that many of the Khazars that converted to Judaism stuck with their adopted faith and came West out of the Pontic Steppe? History shows that even before the 12th Century a portion of the Jewish Khazars, called Kabars, went West with the Magyars and settled in Pannonia. I suspect the reason that you call the Khazar theory "racist" is contained in the OP's post:
The only reason a lot of Jews claim that Khazars are a myth is because it would deligitimize the Jews claim to Israel, but at 5% of the Jewish population it is hardly a threat.
Jon357, you are lying, and being rude, upon this thread out of loyalty to the Zionist project and it doesn't matter to you if Khazar ancestry is only attributable to one out of twenty modern Jews. You are an extremely zealous Zionist that can't allow any claim that some of Europe's Jews are descendants of Japheth rather than Shem.