Poland and Britain started WW2

Cos they were told lies all there life

But that doesn't justify your earlier assumption that anyone who thinks Hitler was wrong is a Jew. Once you start widening the net you have 'if you think Hitler was wrong you're either a Jew or a Christian' which really does sound ridiculous. You'd actually have to add the Atheists too as most of them wouldn't agree with his worldview either so you then end up with 'if you think Hitler was wrong you're either a Jew, a Christian or an Atheist'. Also you wouldn't find too many Buddhists who'd be fans of old Adolf, so the whole thing becomes ludicrous.

Hitler, as the Nazis on the whole, possibly even German society as unmasked by the meteoric rise of the entire regime, were neither Christian nor even Judeo-Christian, but PAGAN to the bone, and apparently never Christianized! Hitler himself often mocked Christianity as having too much of a Jewish conscience:-) He considered the Germanic "race" barbarians, proud of being barbarians!

Yes, I'm sure I read some quote from him years ago along the lines of 'one can be either a German or a Christian but not both'. But I'm not sure it's fair to suggest that German society was pagan at heart. Anyway is Pagan such a bad thing? Apart from human sacrifice of course and I don't think all Pagan religions practised that.

What do you mean by 'meteoric rise'? There was solid political and economic background behind it.The Allies put too much strain on the German economy after the WWI in demanding and executing war reparations which triggered evil forces to swim up onto the surface of the German society and then take it over completely

Either way Hitler was right

What was he right about?

Guess you've never been to Bavaria then.. They are catholic to the bone.

What was he doing right about everything

Hitler was a very very smart man and no I am not a polock

@Lyzko
He's all yours.
Someone with poor English is making antisemitic remarks - yet not a Pole.
Teach him a lesson in history and English ;)

@Rw Greenlee
What makes you think Hitler was a smart man? His hatred towards Jews?

ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n3p22_Degrelle.html

Fun fact:Hitler did not snub Jesse Owens and was not racist

Germans living in Poland were brutally, and I mean brutally murdered day after day night after night. There is literal evidence that Germany requested it to stop and wanted peace. Bloody Sunday saw an end to any peace treaty. Don't believe what you read on Wikipedia or what you find on Google.

yeah, believe what you find on stormfront instead

When and where was this ?

No, he/she still reads Volkischer Beobachter. hahaha

odysee.com/@Anon:96/europa:e6 This comprehensive and shocking documentary provides all the information you need about who and why WW2 was started and much more. The claims made at the beginning of this thread are all true.

BS. None of them really shows Polish desire to start a war with Germany..

Even when they are true, they don`t mean that Poland was pushing for war.

E.g, one of those true falsities in the OP`s post is -
Poland fully mobilized their troops on 30 August.

Yes, because German troops had already been amassed at the border, waiting for the order to invade which came on 1 September.
The truth is that Poland announced the national mobilisation too late which was one of the reasons we lost the campaign of 1939 within one month instead of fighting for half a year.

But the OP still presents it as pushing for war. AmaSSing guy.

No they aren't. Nazi Germany and their Soviet pig allies invaded Poland

Not the other way round.

What about this?

jstor.org/stable/1874988

Sorry, I am not going to open your worthless sites. Tell us shortly what they contain. Quote two or three sentences, it is allowed here.

You don't have much clue, do you? This is the article:

"JOURNAL ARTICLE
Did Pilsudski Attempt to Initiate a Preventive War in 1933?
Zygmunt J. Gasiorowski
The Journal of Modern History
Vol. 27, No. 2 (Jun., 1955), pp. 135-151 (17 pages)
Published By: The University of Chicago Press"

Yes, I was right saying it is worthless.
Primo - this thread is about WW2, not 1933.
Secundo: Piłsudski was long dead when WW2 broke out. If he had lived, the things might have run differently. Hitler appreciated and respected Piłsudski as a politician.

All in all, this exchange with you is a waste of time. Try harder.

You said that Poland was not pushing for a war, and I showed you that they actually did years before the start of WW2. Try harder, teacher.

A shame he didn't. Anything to stop the Nazis in their tracks would have been positive.


And dying by 1933. A very good man; Poland needs the like of Pilsudski again.


He isn't though, is he...

Yes, but I meant 1939. Quite logical in this thread. It isn`t my fault that you misunderstood that logic.


Yes, I will teach you that when the thread name includes the term WW2 and I comment on the claims in the OP`s post which is about WW2, then I do mean WW2 and not some prehistory.

Why don`t you start a thread called: Did Poland push for the war when Hitler came to power?

Yes, but we know it today while nobody could predict future tragic events in 1933-35.


Partly. He organised the May 1926 coup d etat and introduced semi dictatorship in Poland. Not very noble achievement, in the light of our neighbours Czechs who enjoyed true democracy through the whole pre war period.

True, however he was transparent about it, open and honest. Plus of course the issue that Poland and Czechoslovakia had very different political and social issues to deal with as well as very different economies.

Semi or full dictatorship with or without transparency is still dictatorship, the political system we both reject in today`s Poland. Don`t we??? :):):)


Political and social differences existed but didn`t play such a role. What really mattered was the national character.
As for different economies, yes. But still differences between Polish agricultural and Czech industrial economy didn`t predestine those countries to choose democratic or dictatorial path.

In today's Poland.

In the Poland where the first democratically elected President was gunned down on the steps of an art gallery by a loon with significant support, there was a compelling case for putting it on hold until times were ready for it.


Democracy works better in an urban society; in the Poland of that time, achieving any sort of informal consensus was in itself progress.