Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

Yes, go and look yourself. Use Google Translate.

Long day. Tired.

Because the US and the UK organized it. Just like that pipe...


Hey, stupid, 40 countries have higher murder rates than Russia.

BTW, the US is right next to Russia...

US - 6.81 per 100k
Russia - 6.80

Let me guess...You must be Polish or a woman...

Hey moron, she was talking about the half a million Ru$$ian soldiers that were just sacrificed by their leader.
Let me guess..... you must be an ex-pat Polack with one of those superiority complexes or just a plain dumb....

Hey, imbecile, when she means half a million Russian soldiers, she should say half a million Russian soldiers.

Instead, she made an idiotic statement to show that there is something wrong with Russia.

BTW, Russia killed fewer people since the end of WW2 than the US. Duh! Internally, Russia's murder rate the same as here. Duh!

And nobody noticed or talks about Z firing another top level security official. How many scapegoats can one leader have in a war? It seems like the only people in the Ukraine military leadership that are untouchable are the guys using sea drones and the other crew using regular drones.

That said, the Ukrainians did more damage to the black sea fleet over the last few days. Russias navy has been put in very compromising positions in the Black Sea and Baltic. The Baltic is now essentially a NATO base, and the Black Sea is obviously vulnerable. These two things definitely reduce Vlads ability to carry out more wars with outher European countries.

Now in a few days it will be 8 months since the US began debating on more aid to Ukraine. It looks like next week a bill will be brought to congress for more funding. Assuming it passes, 60 billion looks like just enough money to get Ukraine to Novembers US presidential elections. This is Z's last chance. Even if Biden wins, there wont be more money unless Ukraine makes a big move.

Nah....Germany will step in.....and Poland too, I'm sure of it.

Nobody wants Putin's army standing on their own borders suddenly....and the only way to prevent that is to support the Ukrainians and keep them fighting.

(Not to mention that the USians have a point with that being an european war....I'm also fairly sure we wouldn't lift a finger should Mexico suddenly invade, we would just call that an american matter)

Interesting you are now at "even if Biden wins"

A subtle change from believing in his certain defeat

I think we are about 6 months into your telling us Ukraine can't survive another week. But this March has not been at all easy for Putler and we now are at a real stalemate as they only advanced another 20km from Advika.

@cms neuf
You read way too much into my comments. As long as Kennedy is in the race, Biden is done. Kennedy fvcked up yesterday in picking his biggest financial doner as his running mate. If he is on all State ballots, Trump wins now, because Kennedy is essentially another Democratic ticket. And once again, big money influences US politics.

@Bratwurst Boy
Mexico invading is funny to think about though. Canada invading would be a threat for about a few days. As for Germany and Poland stepping in, lets be real. Poland needs to arm iteself and double its military size before spending more money on Ukraine. Germany is stuck in debates over how much to help, and a large faction want to deal with Russia again for cheap oil and gas. I think everyone missed the window to push Russia out, or to solidify the line of contact a year ago.

But I am!

Thing is that money spending is still much, much cheaper than having to fight yourself....not to mention the losses and the destruction including the rebuilding afterwards!

A trustworthy Putin could maybe build on that, promising a peace-desperate Europe secure borders, the end of his imperial dreams after Ukraine is done....but then, he lost all that credibility, nobody believes him anymore....so re-arming it is, and in the meantime supporting Ukraine.

Sorry to say that, but THAT is the lone realistic way left for Europe...as long as Putin lives and rules that is!

There is. They have invaded their neighbour and thrown three hundred thousand of their own young men into a muddy grave.

Whoever gave you a driver's license?

🚨 🇺🇲 #BREAKING: A major bridge has collapsed in Baltimore after a ship collided into it.

Thoughts and prayers with all those involved 🙏 💔

twitter.com/CensoredMen/status/1772520750924153093

The Ukrainian captain carried out a terrorist attack on the bridge

You're 24 hours out of date.

It was yesterday.

ISIS K, plus a Ukrainian driver. Play the sound 😁

twitter.com/Ghostyzov/status/1772616539079893193

I doubt anyone is crazy enough to open your dodgy links.

Probably bought a fake one from Zbigniew in that Maritime Institute in Gdansk. 😁

I wasn't talking about Russian soldiers at all. Go back and actually read what I wrote in posts 497, 503 and 509. I was pointing out that lessons hadn't been learned after the Kemerovo fire where fire exits were blocked, just as they were in the Moscow concert hall. Bribes are commonplace in Russia to bypass fire safety regulations. A clear lack of regard for human life.

If you're going to comment on my posts, at least read what I wrote first. It is not me making idiotic statements, but you.

I wasn't responding to you Karen, I was responding to Novi so if you are going to respond to my post at least read what I wrote first.


I try to avoid them as much as possible and certainly don't go back to read them nor will I.
In fact I have no idea why I am responding to your rant now.


OMG ! that is exactly what you just did.
You must be a daft woman not to see that. geesh !
Please put me back on your ignore list to save yourself more embarrassment.

@Bratwurst Boy
As long as Putin lives. I like that caveat. Who comes after Vlad is the real question. The guy cant live forever. Will the next guy be better or worse? Will he continue the expansion policies? I agree Europe needs to be arming itself, particularly Poland and the Baltics. Everyone has had years to do this. PiS really pi$$es me off because they rang the alarm for eight years and still did nothing until Ukraine was invaded. Tusk talking about cancelling contracts with South Korea and building things here in Poland is great. But who TF is going to build tanks? Where will they be built? Where are all these new factories going to be and what designs will be used? Lots of talk and very little real action.

I disagree that anything going on in Ukraine is cheaper than having a peace negotiated. Peace and a negotiation are inevitable. So why delay if Z is not going to mobilize more men, and form a real counter offensive, what is he doing? Buying time with lives? What is the strategy? Assuming the US approves 60 billion by the end of next week, who is going to be using all the new weapons, and equipment that will be shipped? That really is a pretty important question. Even the Ukraine press are questioning things now, public sentiment has long sense begun to turn. Someone needs to tell Europe and the US wtf plan is.

From my experience (during the breakdown of the Eastern Bloc) Autocrats generally only let bootlicker and yes-men/women come up alongside and beside them, every possible rival (may it be through brains or just having the dare of another opinion) flies out of a window sooner or later.

BUT that possible #2 also is more often than not a total weak character, has to be to come that far up and not be regarded as a rival by the main man himself. And that everybody and his grandmom knows...

So....after the demise of said leader it will need a time till the pit of animals sniffing their chance of the top spot have done away with the former #2 and sorted themselves out.

Maybe the secret services have a list with possible names, I sadly have not! Maybe this new leader wants to change things big time....who knows.


But not with Putin! I guess that's the red line right now....he is just unbelievable! Would you put your security in the hands of a guy where you KNOW his signature under any treaty isn't worth the ink? That he sees any outcome just as our gift of time for him to plan his next moves? It's useless!


Now that is another matter altogether! If the Ukrainians themselves decide to go for peace, even if that means losing land and people, then that is their right and they should go for it!

But till now I haven't heard any of that....

I looked up some American 'Russia supporters' or rather ; we don't give a F about Ukrainie; and some of their 'arguments'. I must say they are for the most part damn morons.

I looked up some Ukraine supporters who love the idea of dying for freedom and democracy and discovered that they always happily leave the dying for others.

Their support is limited to public masturbation on PF, interrupted by urging the US to send more money and occasional visits to the High Moral Ground.

Will someone finally hear the man and comply. It's not complicated.


'The Russians are winning the war, and it is best for Ukraine to a reach a negotiated political settlement with the Russians or else they'll lose more 40% of their territory and will still not join NATO''

twitter.com/amwogakhalwale/status/1772939675419717952

It's complicated when other people wrongly assume that another people comply all the time for any price.

Why don't you comply?

If Prof John Mearsheimer bothered to visit PF every now and then he would know that Russia is on its last legs, out of things that go boom, and ready to throw Putin into a Siberian gulag.


This gamble is very simple: Take a chance that Russia will comply in the future or die now. Easy call.

A paid r*SSian shill.

I'm surprised you haven't quoted Bartlett and Beeley too.

@Bratwurst Boy
It may be the devil you know is better than the one you dont in this case.

The public sentiment in Ukraine is grows more negative every day. People can support the war all they want from outside of Ukraine, but if Ukraine people are tired of seeing their friends and family die, its time for Z to listen. But he wont. He will pass the buck and fire someone else next month. And more men die on both sides every day.

Yea. If anything they're becoming more and more resolved to wear r*SSia down and get the orcs out every day.

Well, this last firing is being interpreted in two ways in Ukraine itself.

1) Danilov was a total idiot. This is the most popular interpretation. He routinely pis*ed off the Americans with his public statements along the lines of "we're gonna keep hitting whatever we want, and nobody can tell us what to do". So one interpretation is that it became impossible for Zelensky to continue resisting American pressure to remove him as head of Ukraine's National Security Council.

2) The other interpretation is that Zelensky has become fully desperate while waiting for Western help, and is conclusively transforming Ukraine's war strategy into one of asymmetric strikes using their expanding drone arsenal. The replacement for Danilov, is Ukraine's former head of foreign intelligence. This could mean Ukraine has decided to in fact ignore any warnings from the West, and try get Russia to the negotiating table on their terms through a "drone bombing campaign" accompanied with a wider sabotage campaign.

What the fvck...why am I doing it for free...I guess I owe Russia for liberating Poland...and for telling faggots to stay away from their kids.