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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10


Korvinus 3 | 501
27 Mar 2024 #541
guess I owe Russia for liberating Poland...

You forget the tiny little detail that Soviet Union helped Nazi Germany conquer Poland and cheerfully took part in extermination of our elites.
Bobko 25 | 2,108
27 Mar 2024 #542
that Soviet Union helped Nazi Germany

Poland helped Nazi Germany carve up helpless Czechoslovakia.

Hitler was an honored guest at Pilsudski's funeral - one fascist to another fascist.
Ironside 53 | 12,423
27 Mar 2024 #543
why am I doing it for free

Because you are a big moron?
Ironside 53 | 12,423
27 Mar 2024 #544
Pilsudski's

Have you seen a picture of Hitler where he is smiling? because Stalin's moustache tickled his ass.
Korvinus 3 | 501
27 Mar 2024 #545
Poland helped Nazi Germany carve up helpless Czechoslovakia.

Czechoslovakia invaded Poland in 1919 in an attempt to capture contested territory while Poland was busy fighting Ukraine. In 1920, when Poland was desperately trying to repel Soviet invasion, Czechs stole northern Zaolzie through diplomatic means.

Poland's invasion of both northern and southern Zaolzie in 1938 was a retaliation for the events of 1919-20 and was not coordinated with Germany - Hitler wanted entire Czechoslovakia for himself.
Bobko 25 | 2,108
27 Mar 2024 #546
was not coordinated with Germany

Do you smoke crack?

Hitler was the one who insisted that Polish and Hungarian demands must be satisfied, if a Czech capitulation was to be accepted. The Czechs were ready to kick your ass, defend from Hungary as well. They had a massive army, with a military industry larger than Poland's.

Of course, Hungary took much more in Carpathia, but both countries benefited from Germano-Italian arbitration in those questions.

Also, if it's fair and square to take Zaolzie because it's majority Polish, then it's fair to give the Reich Danzig and the Pomeranian coast.
cms neuf 1 | 1,812
27 Mar 2024 #547
We are not talking about 1938

We are discussing 1939 when Drunk Udmurtians allied with Hitler to invade peaceful Poland

And in 2022 they were still drunk but had different allies - Iran, North Korea and Uganda
Korvinus 3 | 501
27 Mar 2024 #548
Hitler was the one who insisted

Bullshit. Poles occupied Zaolzie - which was an industrialized area - due to the collapse of Czechoslovakia, so that it would not fall into German hands and increase the military potential of Germany. They didn't do it just out of spite or for retaliation alone.

Zaolzie was previously Polish (called Śląsk Cieszyński), but when Poland had to defend on the east from bolsheviks, Czechs pushed for division of the region, as Poland was obviously preoccupied with a war. After territories were annexed, Czechs had anti-Polish politics (removal of Polish schools etc) to remove the Polish culture. But main reason why it was retaken by Poles is to deny it to Germans. It didn't last long and do much in the grand scheme of things though.
Bobko 25 | 2,108
27 Mar 2024 #549
Iran, North Korea

Great allies!

Managed to supply us with more artillery shells, drones, and missiles than the entire West was able to find for Ukraine.

The dream, however, is that you keep poking and sanctioning China to the point where it decides to go from covertly aiding Russia to providing overt aid.

Biden banning Chinese access to modern chips, banning imports of Chinese EVs, banning the use of Chinese telecoms equipment, and excluding them from important scientific research projects - may one day convince China that it has practically nothing to lose by disengaging from America.

Can you imagine if Iran and the DPRK are able to out produce the West, what China could offer?

For example, China has a shipbuilding capacity which is 232X larger than that of the United States.

232 TIMES! Not 2 times, or 10 times, but more than 200X times.

Source: americanmanufacturing.org/blog/chinas-shipbuilding-capacity-is-232-times-greater-than-that-of-the-united-states/#:

If the Chinese monster wakes up, we'll probably have 50 artillery shells for every Ukrainian soldier hiding in a trench.
Alien 20 | 5,059
27 Mar 2024 #550
Chinese monster wakes up,

Everything is beautiful, but what if China wants to help Ukraine?
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
27 Mar 2024 #551
Managed to supply us with more artillery shells, drones, and missiles

Turns out most of them were defective.
They unloaded all their junk to Ru$$ia.
Bobko 25 | 2,108
27 Mar 2024 #552
what if China wants to help Ukraine?

Of course. Help an American ally inflict a strategic defeat on your closest ally and largest neighbor, with whom you have more than $200B in annual trade.

Why not.

Ukraine will reward China by asking for reconstruction money, and a promise not to to use "Asian" or "Mongoloid" as an insult in public discourse.

America will give China a nice pat on the head, and permit them to buy chips designed in 2010.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
27 Mar 2024 #553
but what if China wants to help Ukraine?

China can help Ukraine today.

Xi can call Zee and tell him to cut the crap out, move to Miami and wait for a dose of polonium-210. Or Novichok. This one is faster...
Novichok 4 | 8,117
27 Mar 2024 #554
Ruins of Yugoslavia: How Russia learned that NATO poses a threat
The US-led military bloc's illegal strikes on Belgrade in the spring of 1999 forever changed relations between the West and Moscow


How quickly they forgot...Now the mother fvckers in DC and Western Europe are trying to teach Russia good manners and what "illegal" means.
Bobko 25 | 2,108
27 Mar 2024 #555
A Polish general has been removed from command of EUROCORPS following a counter intelligence probe.

Lieutenant General Jaroslaw Gromadzinski had been serving as commander of EUROCORPS, a joint military group of some EU and NATO states, since June 2023.

From DW:

"Lieutenant General Gromadzinski had previously commanded Poland's 18th Mechanized Division in Iraq.

In recent months, he had been serving as part of the international assistance team for Ukraine in Wiesbaden, Germany, where he was involved in the training of Ukrainian soldiers."

Source: amp.dw.com/en/warsaw-dismisses-polish-eurocorps-commander-citing-probe/a-68685014

Such a pity. The man is a real Polish patriot and friend of Russia. Simply too bad...
Novichok 4 | 8,117
27 Mar 2024 #556
What would Poland do if invaded by green men from Mars? Does A5 cover this possibility?
Novichok 4 | 8,117
27 Mar 2024 #557
Putin rounds up illegal migrants to send to the frontline in Ukraine as Russian president exploits Moscow massacre anti-migrant backlash to find cannon fodder

Brilliant.

Migrants die - a win
Ukrainians die - a win
Migrants and Ukrainians die - a twofer

Hey, Vlad, you are a genius...
pawian 224 | 24,484
27 Mar 2024 #558
a real Polish patriot and friend of Russia.

Stop spreading false propaganda on Kremlin orders - a real Polish patriot can`t be a friend of Russia - these two perfectly exclude each other.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
27 Mar 2024 #559


Russian T-72 Destroys The M1 Abrams with Its First Shot

I don't get it...How did that Russian tank manage to invade Texas?
mafketis 37 | 10,913
27 Mar 2024 #560
utin rounds up illegal migrants to send to the frontline

wonder how well that's gonna go.... central asians and caucasions aren't as meek and submissive as russians....
Mr Grunwald 32 | 2,176
27 Mar 2024 #561
Do you smoke crack?

It was a stupid move by Polish leadership and very petty but, yes it was uncoordinated. It looked like it was, but believe me. Polish elites suffered the need to be an Empire and being Imperial just like Russia is now.

Everyone thought it was a Pro-German move, in Poland it was seen as showing them all that Poland can take care of their own in Zaolzie and a middle finger to all Munich members (as Poland was not invited)

It was stupid, it was bad. But it was not done in cohesion with Hitler. He was surprised by it
pawian 224 | 24,484
27 Mar 2024 #562
Wow, Grunwald, at last you have made a post I fully agree with. Amasing! Thanks. :):)
Miloslaw 19 | 5,008
27 Mar 2024 #563
I owe Russia for liberating Poland

When? Russia NEVER liberated Poland they just enslaved it..... it's what Russians do.Open your eyes Rich and get over it.....
Velund 1 | 643
28 Mar 2024 #564
in Poland, a poor response by emergency services is a scandal with consequences

Ok, let's wait for terror attack of same scale in Warsaw and then we will be able to compare professional qualities of Russian and Polish special services. For now, we have nothing to compare. Just words about western special services superiority (the same as fairy tales about NATO weapons superiority that was not confirmed in the field).
Bobko 25 | 2,108
28 Mar 2024 #565
Russia NEVER liberated Poland

Next time you need liberation, or for somebody to train hundreds of thousands of Poles in Russia (a literal army) - don't call.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
28 Mar 2024 #566
....maybe Russia will need liberation next.....from the Chinese!

They have plans...bigger than just supporting an "ally" in need....they play the long game!

Just my two Cents....
Velund 1 | 643
28 Mar 2024 #567
who is going to be using all the new weapons, and equipment that will be shipped?

All kind of terrorists and drug cartels that will purchase this stuff on a black market.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
28 Mar 2024 #568
Russia NEVER liberated Poland they just enslaved it...

No. Nobody I knew, my family, by uni buddies, and I felt enslaved. Please don't speak on our behalf, especially on the behalf of Auschwitz prisoners.

Quoting:

On 27 January 1945, Auschwitz concentration camp-a Nazi concentration camp and extermination camp in occupied Poland where more than a million people were murdered as part of the Nazis' "Final Solution" to the Jewish question-was liberated by the Soviet Red Army during the Vistula-Oder Offensive. Wikipedia.

You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts.
cms neuf 1 | 1,812
28 Mar 2024 #569
We can already see how Poland responds to an emergency

2 years ago our peaceful neighbors were invaded by drunk rapists and in the cause of a week we quickly processed a million refugees, fed them, documented them and put a roof over heads.

Crucially we were already prepared because we did not ignore warnings

Believe it or not we have had big fires in Poland but they are normally quickly contained

Did we wait 90 minutes because of traffic ?
Did we lock emergency exits ?
Did we decide not to attend while women and kids choked to death on smoke ?

And of course NATO weapons are superior to 1950s Soviet technology that your drunk troops are too lazy to maintain
Novichok 4 | 8,117
28 Mar 2024 #570


'Won't Spare Anyone': Russia's New Chilling Threat; Putin Aide Says 'Just Wait...' | Moscow Attack

Kill them and feed them to the pigs. Or in reverse. Skip trials.

That video reminds me again why I like everything about Russia - including how Putin and Medvedev walk.


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