Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

Same question can be asked of the west. Look at the pro-Hamas/anti-Israel/anti-West protest going on throughout the West right now. Not to mention Europe's fighting capacity is lagging and the US military is not at peak operational fitness. WWIII would be a helluvalot different than I and II.

@Novichok
This idea of the Us supplying nukes to Poland, even one rotation, is suicide for Poland. Duda and the boys are just fvcking idiots. Now, Poland developing a few of their own nukes is still a good idea, done in secret of course. Modify some of the HIMARS and other systems for small warhead delivery and you have something that probably can be done not only cheaply but quickly. I say this because Poland does not have the infrastructure or hideability that they would need to create large missle silos without them being seen before completion.

Now with the US delivering arms and missiles within days of passing the new aid package, Belgium steps on its own d1ck. The home of the EU is now saying they will try to get Ukraine f-16's by the end of the year. Are you fvcking kidding me? And people on PF wonder why Americans are frustrated with the EU's general response to assisting Ukraine. People say the US should do more and I ask WTF is the EU really doing? All the "talk" from the EU members about assisting Ukraine, and defeating Russia is lip service. Where are the huge donations? Where are the planes? Ukraine pilots are trained, so what is the delay? Where is all the ramped up production of ammunition? Where are the new factories in the EU for production? The EU wants to talk tough to Vlad, and Vlad keeps pumping missiles into Ukraine.

More reports out of Ukraine about the manpower problems. They need a half million more men, and one report suggests they will have a difficult time getting fifty thousand more to the front lines. And if thats all Ukraine can do, the US will see a lot of the aid provided blown up by Russian missiles.

That's really where the rubber hits the road. This war hets more insane by the minute . I knew we had a dearth of leadership, but our lack of leadership is exponentially worse than what I had perceived.

Seems like the only country with solid leadership with a vision is freaking the Chicoms.

UK blocked Ukraine peace deal - Moscow
Ukraine abandoned a draft peace treaty with Russia in 2022 under British pressure, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has said.
The deal, which could have ended the Ukraine conflict weeks after it started, was approved by negotiators in Istanbul, but Kiev later pulled out of the talks.

Those are the facts. Unfortunately for the 500,000 dead Ukrainians, the warmongers in DC and London had a different plan that had nothing to do with "freedom and democracy" and everything with weakening Russia, MICC profits, and justifying NATO's existence.

After he was told to get lost, Putin googled "Yugoslavia" and said: Over my dead body am I going to let these mother fvckers do it to Russia.

Memo to Russia: Please don't nuke anybody. However, if you find the urge irresistible, start with London. There are no white people there anymore so it would be a twofer.

But the bits of Yugoslavia that adopted democracy and the free market are now prosperous and safe and 3x wealthier than Serbia

I have no idea why the North Nigerians keep spreading this nonsense story about Britain scuppering the peace talks. It has never been confirmed and makes no sense - why would Ukraine listen to a medium sized country on the other side of the continent

they didn't scuppter anything, it's the usual russian lies that west-hating westerners lap up like dogs....

the 'deal' was russia gets everything it wants and Ukraine got nothing.... no way was Ukraine on board with that

russians lie like others breathe... the entire culture is built on deceit and greed and malice (remember the mother who wanted to send her second to the military and was already planning on how to spend the 'bereavement' money?) it's almost like they had several movements over the generations aimed at killing or driving normal people away..... oh wait! that's _exactly_ what they did!

Good point. Now, try to sell your idea to the ruling mob in DC.
I am sure many states would love to be free and truly democratic. Can you imagine how happy we would be without fed income tax, wars, NATO, and being free to ban transgender creeps from girl's showers?


You are lying or you would name what Russia wanted:

1. U neutrality
2. Better treatment of Russians in U
3. Crimea.

That was it. If your info is different, post it or STFU

China's economy is actually falling apart at the seams at this moment afaik (but feel free to correct me if you know more than I do)

The whole global economy has gone to hell in a handbasket.
Central banks will have to battle inflation much more aggressively than our generation has ever seen.
As a result of the tradeoff between growth and inflation is getting much worse.
Tighten your belts.
Usually when this happens a world war breaks out to get the economy's going again.
And since the United States doesn't have a Commander and Chief (president) right now, what a better time for China to start one.

Seems to be the case.... it's almost as if dictatorships that concentrate on cults of personality are not a good long term economic strategy....

Also population is collapsing... some recent figures on birth numbers were far below the worst fears most breeding age young people are not interested in marriage or children... and a recent trend is 'breaking the relation' that is freezing out family and trying to have as little to do with them as possible.

That's why Xi might try to launch an invasion of Taiwan, to distract from his devastating track record of catastrophic failures...

Listen brate. Poland is under occupation. We all know it. So why nuke Poland? Why evaporate Slavic Polish child?

No, I won`t buy that sh**. The moment Russia feel nuclearly threatened by NATO and the EU, then Russia nuke Brussels, Paris, Bonn and London. Then, declare - ``Its our first warning.``

Just then, after that first warning, if Poland remain part of NATO and EU, I can accept Poland as legitimate target for Russia`s nukes. Even then, only tactical reserved for army targets. ICBM on Poland`s military and command targets only if Poland`s soli is used for nuclear attack on Russia. But always first nuke Brussels, Paris, Bonn and London so that those who control Poland knows what goes as raward to them.

If Poland is flat, I don`t wish to see France, Germany and Britain on the map either.

Are you sure that without bombing and sanctions that 3x proportion would remain the same?

Crowie, looks like you forgot something. Put Fashington ahead of Brussels, and move Bonn to a next stage...

If Poland is flat, I don`t wish to see France, Germany and Britain on the map either.


You have the wrong data. Serbia`s dinar is the second most desirable banknote in the world and the standard of living constantly improves, while dropping in other parts of former Yugoslavia, with every new day.

Plus, who ``adopted democracy and the free market``? Vatican`s-German project of Greater Croatia? Well, its a clero-Catholic aparhaid nazi state. And what free market? Where in the EU do you have a free market? It WAS, when it was suitable for THEM. In some other era of uni-polar world where THEY dominated. Before the Serbians, Russia and China rebelled, and then the rest of the FREE world. But now they seek to protect their market.

I fo* EU and NATO powers. Let them rot in their own hatred and sh** they seeded all over the world.


Well, I would nuke Fashington as the second warning. True, again before nuking Poland. With every nuke on the infidels, there is a chance people in Poland rebel against foreign usurpers of power in Poland.

I wonder when ordinary Americans will take it to the streets and say in one voice: ENOUGH. No more foreign aid!. Pay off the debt! No more playing the world's dumbest cop!

Hey, Euros, would you support us then?

They will after Russia`s first nuclear warning thru example on some western European countries, like France or Germany, that offering themselves for demonstration.

I dunno....the whole self-image of the USians might become a big problem for all who try to subdue the US through fear!

Their founding mythos is someting totally different than that of the more natural grown countries....the US has never been occupied, never been ruled by foreigners, has never lost territory because of a lost war...

I would rather guess that every try to cower them into submission will have a contrary effect on these people! Even those who would actually have an open ear and are rather hostile to their gov in Washington might put their differences behind for the time being....to much national pride!

Ukraine would't agreed to this insane demands. IS much worse than what Bolsheviks demanded to Finland after they invaded them and committed a lot of atrocities there.

Limitations on weapons and the means to defend UA would't be respected by Russia and only serve as casus belli when(not if) RU decides to break the deal again. And, letting the bully to get away is encouraging more bully. No one in Ukraine would have signed such awful atrocious deal!!

And lets suppose that Ukraine agree to get Russians away with ALL forms of toruture, massacre in PoW (recorded in video and distributed by RU itself), attacks in civilians, like Bucha THERE IS ANYONE HERE RETARDED ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT RUSSIANS WOULD HONOR THEIR WORDS? Russians broke every single word and no, is not only the Budapest Memorandum. They fired missiles in Odessa port in the day that signed the grain exportation deal. Later, only followed the deal due a lot of pressures by Inflation Sultan in Turkey. They established humanitarian corridors in Mariupol, but because the population fled west instead of east, shelled the humanitarian corridors and blamed Ukraine who had no artillery to do so. They also said many times that aren't going for territories and broke their deal and """annexed""" territories.

You are a liar.

Z was ready to sign that deal. It's the mother fvckers in DC and Johnson azhole that talked Z out of it.


You are full of it...Did Russia invade the Baltics or Poland after 1990? For 30 years, Russia didn't do anything like this - even with NATO crawling up to Russia's doorstep.

When the Western scum in DC and Londonistan zaczal pierdolic about NATO in Ukraine, Russia had enough. Got it or am I talking over your Polish head?

Most of demands was taken from declaration of independency of ukraine, proclaimed in 1991... If you think that russian recognition of this declaration is insane - OK, let it be. I think that UK/US have too many lapdogs, too...

Did he tell you that or do you just think so?

Crow - it's great to have you back, but the same like when my cat comes home after a month w lesie.

You are not talking a word of sense

Velund, you are too kind...These two countries have their ruling mobs, morons, and 100 guys with brains. I am one of the 100.

This "Russia cannot be trusted" bullshit is getting on my nerves because it's illogical and so stupid it takes your breath away...

Memo to Polish morons:

When a superpower like Russia says: We promise to leave you alone and let you live in peace or we will destroy your country and kill 500,000 of your men, you sign the fvcking paper with both hands because the downside is the same if you refuse, azholes. On the other hand, there is always a chance that Russia actually means it and let 500,000 men to stay alive.

I will never admit I was born in Poland. It's beyond embarrassing...


If Z was not ready to sign, the British azhole Johnson wouldn't have to tell Z not to sign. Duh!

You already did a few years ago. You proudly showed photos of the places you had frequented as a child. :):):)

Russian Hunter-Killer Drones Force Ukraine To "Withdraw" Abrams Tanks | US Blames Kyiv's "Tactics"

I want them back to protect the US if Canada or Mexico decides to attack. You never know...

@Novichok
Thank goodness Russia does not call the shots then! Less deaths!

Russia destroyed 5 Abrams. At 10M each, we are out of 50 million bucks we will never get back.
Did you know that for this kind of dough, we could buy 500 Corvettes or Lexus LS500?

Has POLAND lost its mind with this move against Russia?

Yes. Just as Poles lost their minds in August 1944.

'We have provided everything possible for their freedom': How the USSR helped France's most important colony stick it to Paris
Demining, energy cooperation, irrigation, metallurgy, children's summer camps made the history of the friendship between Algeria and the Soviet Union

Not only did the French get their asses kicked out of Algeria...they also received a farewell gift from hell - 5,000,000 Algerians!!! A bonus: No-go zones and crime. Very few engineers.

That's why I love the Soviet Union so much...

That would be the only explanation why Micron is talking shyt about kicking Russia's teeth in.

theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/28/two-russian-journalists-arrested-over-alleged-work-for-alexei-navalny-foundation

More journalists jailed for criticizing corruption in North Nigeria

Serious question for those citizens - you are intelligent people, how do you feel about the increased repression ?