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Why Poland achieved nothing at all?

Polar Bear
4 Mar 2017 #1
Compared to Germans and Russians Poles contributed absolutely nothing to the world why is that so?
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
4 Mar 2017 #2
Quit trolling und start reading:-)
jon357 67 | 16,836
4 Mar 2017 #3
Quite. He obviously hasn't heard of Marie Curie, Singer or Gombrowicz or ever used petrochemicals that have come out of an oil well...
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
4 Mar 2017 #4
...Szopen, Łobaczewski, Mickiewicz, Stanisław Lem, Igor Sikorski (half-Ukrainian on his mother's side), Andrzej Wajda, the list goes on and on and on......
Ironside 50 | 10,907
4 Mar 2017 #5

Geez you contributed absolutely nothing to the world and never will, you're naturally born looser. Is that why you asking?
johnny reb 28 | 5,015
5 Mar 2017 #6
Being that Polar Bear, AmericanPatriot and Rocco341 are all the same Russian troll it seems the Mods would block his IP from here.
That would be an achievement for Poland.
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
5 Mar 2017 #7
A Russian troll meets an American troll!! Trust you feel in good company, Johnny:-)
6 Mar 2017 #8
Trolling aside, I actually agree with OP. Whenever someone asks about Poland's achievements, the names from 50-600 years pop-up. Really? And most of them are artists. How about the last 50 years (the golden years of technological advances) - what has Poland achieved?

We in Poland are treated as a THIRD-WORLD citizens by the US (Poles are STILL required to have a visa to visit the US - and it's unlikely to change for another 50 years) and by the richest EU countries like Germany that treat Poland as a dumping ground for their goods and the most polluting companies. Poles are considered very 'smart' - but what technological Polish company is known in Europe (not to mention in the world)? Even if a company in Poland achieves something, it is quickly bought by an EU, China, or US company for 5% of their annual budget..
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
6 Mar 2017 #9
Much as in the H.C Andersen tale of "The Emperor's New Clothes", Germans by contrast are treated as FIRST-WORLD citizens because everyone, including their closest neighbors, is somehow afraid of telling them they are any less than perfect (as none of the townspeople dares to exclaim that the Emperor's naked, save for a little boy, quickly shushed, if I recall the story correctly)!

By contrast, Polish jokes continue to abound, and sadly a lot of Poles have started to buy into them. Everybody feels as though they need German technology and would be lost without it. A bit of skillful PR work might end up catapulting the Poles into a front-runner position of being taken seriously, a position denied them for far too long, and one which I believe they finally deserve:-)
Ironside 50 | 10,907
6 Mar 2017 #10
actually agree with OP

You don't agree with the OP. He claimed that Poland achieved nothing at all. He never said anything about 50 years or whatnot.
By the way if you have been in hibernation - has a soviet occupation right a bell?

And most of them are artists.

Correction - you heard only about artists.
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
6 Mar 2017 #11
Don't forget about mathematicians, scientists, writers etc..
12 Mar 2017 #12
NathansHow about the last 50 years (the golden years of technological advances) - what has Poland achieved?

How about CD Projekt, the Polish creators of the witcher gaming franchise, who on a global are vastly more respected than any German or Russian gaming company. Overall Poland is kicking ass when it comes to game development, despite the fact that it is a relatively small country.
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
13 Mar 2017 #13
And not only gaming, but the Polish capital has become a "virtual" (no pun meant here) hotbed for all manner of software startups and there's a capitalistic zeal worthy of Silicon Valley!!

Small wonder that the youngest Poles, those in their teens and early twenties are learning English with a vengeance:-)
13 Mar 2017 #14
Poland has had many scientists, and many other successful people in it's history. Also, the Warner Brothers(Brothers who created Warner Bros studios) founded one of the biggest studios there is in America.
Bobko 9 | 149
13 Mar 2017 #15
The Warner brothers were Jewish, though they do seem to have come from the Masovian Voivodeship. By this criteria Russia is the greatest contributor to science in the world. However, I think that Russian Jews excelled in academia despite the efforts of the Russian state, not because of it. It's surely a troll post, but I think he meant Poles.
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
13 Mar 2017 #16
If you then include scores of Polish Jews/half-Jews, indeed, the list of "Polish" accomplishments becomes even longer. And don't forget about Jerzy Koziński, Roman Polański, Tuwim, Różewicz, Leśmian, Brzechwa etc... Oh, yes! Almost forgot about Joseph Conrad, master English stylish, who, though not known for his contributions to Polish culture per se, was nonetheless a full (and a noble) Pole!!
13 Mar 2017 #17
Frédéric Chopin
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
13 Mar 2017 #18
Already listed way above under his Polish spelling:-)
13 Mar 2017 #19
Who can forget Pope John Paul II. Religious or not, his efforts at world peace were not ignored, and were not forgotten. He was one of the most beloved popes, and respected by many who weren't religious.
Bobko 9 | 149
13 Mar 2017 #20
Wikipedia lists the boomerang as a Polish invention.


Add that to the list.
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
13 Mar 2017 #21
Thank you! Should have mentioned him:-)
Bobko 9 | 149
13 Mar 2017 #22
I can see it now... The Proto-Pole, or as Crow would surely tell us - a Sarmatian - sitting under the shade of a birch in the Białowieża Forest, crafting the first boomerang. What is more Polish than a weapon that is equally dangerous to you as it is to the enemy?
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
13 Mar 2017 #23
Knowledge is dangerous to BOTH, to oneself as well as one's nemesis:-)
13 Mar 2017 #24
You're right - I missed Pope John II (thanks to him, the Solidarity Movement, and Poland in general, the new Europe, without communism and the walls, started).
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
13 Mar 2017 #25
There was a famous French poet named "Apollinaire" and I believe he was Polish as well.
Bobko 9 | 149
13 Mar 2017 #26
WTF people - what about Copernicus?

His father was a merchant from Krakow.

edit: after a little research I see it's not so clear when it comes to Copernicus. Looks like Germans have as much a claim on him as Poles. In any case, modern notions of nationality would have been totally alien in Copernicus' time...
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
13 Mar 2017 #27
Some debate about whether or not he was technically considered Polish or German, after all, Toruń at the time of his birth was still called "Thorn"!

Sorry to nit pick.
Bobko 9 | 149
13 Mar 2017 #29

Lol! I'm as much a fan of Lewy as the next guy, but do you really believe this qualifies as a Polish contribution to the world? :)
Lyzko 29 | 7,234
13 Mar 2017 #30
I agree. He's more of a sort of "home boy" hero type to me:-)

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