News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

I would take a dozen of reporters from Gw and from two dozen from TVN and traitors and execute every tenth.

I can see how it is more along the lines of having execution as a penalty for treason.

But a penalty should be for deeds.
I feel that I would take a dozen from this group and a dozen from that and execute every tenth feels like a random "threat to everyone".

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

Ok I don't feel comfortable discussing in English niuances of speech said in Polish.

What I can say is the wording was unfortunate, reading just that article it felt very strong. Listened to get more context it feels less strong but still a bit disturbing.

And no, after consideration I don't think he should be punished.

And I didn't say misinformation is not deed. I did say you do not execute people just because they work for company you believe is a traitor.

Life / Good account of Poland's Andrzejki? [23]

So today is "Andrzejki". Are you going to celebrate Andrzej's nameday and the last days before Advent? Are you going to predict your future?

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

I would not comment on my surname.
It's possible I said it to strongly. I watched bit of that video, and it didn't feel so strong. Reading excerpt out of context often makes things worse than they are.

And in fact this whole situation makes the idea of journalists as traitors more clear to me.

And when I said "Nazists" I meant "hitlerowcy".
And the words create disturbing image of taking random people from some group that is claimed guilty putting them in line , counting to ten and execututing publicly every "tenth". And maybe that is not only Hitler-ruled Germany thing. But it's what comes to mind of a Pole

i just read what I wrote before, and I can see the mistake I made. when I wrote "stupid hate speak" I meant this is a stupid way to say "hate speak", as in my opinion it put opponents as victims not threat.

and "hate speak" was too strong words

Language / Polish tattoo for the future (w piekle / raju) [6]

Sounds good,

Language / what is the difference between gawędziliśmy and porozmawialiśmy? [5]

You shouldn't learn "gawędziliśmy" i "pogawędziliśmy" to use, just to understand. Rozmawialiśmy/porozmawialiśmy could be always used instead.

Gawędziliśmy is more literary and informal. It's about every-day things or memories, nothing too serious. Also a bit longer.

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

What the speaker meant : We should have law that punishes treason with death using firing squad. Then few dozen of reporters and other traitors should be investigated and 10% of them would be found guilty and sentenced. (and I may not be precise in English, he believes those 10% are guilty , and that few dozen are not random, there is nothing random in it just the way justice should work and amount of people suspected and probable ratio of the ones really guilty). If there in no punishment for treason people will do whatever they want.

What dziennik.pl says : For example we take 12 GW journalists , 24 people who work at TVN , not to mention other traitors and execute every tenth. If that doesn't happen it means you can do anything there is no punishment.

Imagery in my head : we take those who are believed to be traitors, random dozen journalists and random two dozen tvn workers count to ten and every "number 10" is killed.

Maybe it is just in my head, that is what you get after living too close to "place of execution" (Meaning a wall with a list of people executed there during WWII).

Of course "fakty" said this the way Politicians would have to answer: this should be investigated.

News / Krakow, Poland considers co-hosting the Winter Olympic in 2022 with Slovakia (UPDATE) [30]

krakow.gazeta.pl/krakow/1,35798,12936865,Polsko_slowackie_igrzyska_zimowe__Co_trzeba_wybudowac_.html - in pPolish (what needs to be build)

Zakopane tried for 2006 Winter Olympics and Turin won.

Village- we could use Miasteczko studenckie , and build some apartments that would be sold after the event.
New cross-country skiing paths, that are planned but there alvays were not enough money,
Biathlon- we would need to renew one route
Snowboard- we use Jurgowo, 20 km from Zakopane, new
Alpine skiing and freestyle - Thos would have to take place in Slovakia
Hockey - either Sosnowiec/ Katowice or in Slovakia
Figure skating and short track - stadium would be finished by 2014
skating- we would have to build this
curling - stadium for this is going to be build near AWF ( even without Olimpics)
sleighs - most expensive and would have to be build

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]


this is where I point out thet after watching a bit of a video I understand what he wanted to say. But whet then out of context as in dziennik.pl it feels serious. This is why politicians had to say it should be investigated to TVN reporters - because they were given words without context.

Also how good is your Polish? I don't know if I should explain every word to you, some meaning could be lost in translation, and I'm not comfortable discussing this in English, maybe we could move to Polish thread.

Food / Sernik Wiedenski [15]

If your polish shop doesn't have "twaróg sernikowy" you could use twaróg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(cheese) as Polonius said. I would say it is a more traditional approach.

Also "mąka tortowa" is a type of flour, it contains only - flour type 450, nothing else. We don't have self-raising flour in Poland.

News / Krakow, Poland considers co-hosting the Winter Olympic in 2022 with Slovakia (UPDATE) [30]

Are we talking about chances? I don't think anybody actually believes we could win. Just as nobody believed about 2006 , or about Euro 2012 ;)

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]


leave the guy, now you take it out of context. He is trying to retell the story using different words.

Language / Addressing a widow who lives in Poland [12]

Actually the doktorowa , prezesowa, profesorowa (or inżynierowa - drives my mum crazy) are still sometimes used. We have prezydentowa - wife of president.

And there used to be that Tomaszowa, Józefowa, Karolowa thing, but it went out of use even before surnames with -owa and -ówna

News / Krakow, Poland considers co-hosting the Winter Olympic in 2022 with Slovakia (UPDATE) [30]


We are Poles. If we win something we call it miracle ;P. It doesn't mean we stop trying. And we did host Euro 2012.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4501]

I don't know about history of words and /or surnames but bryłka is not only about earth.
translatica.pl/slowniki/po-angielsku/bryłka

it could be ice, gold, rock, coal ...

Food / St Nicholas gingerbread [6]

I used to buy them at Kraków Main Square "Jarmark Świąteczny", but I haven't been there for the last three years.

Language / Mushroom: pieczarka vs grzyb [24]

Fungi are grzyby in Polish.
Also mushroom are grzyby in Polish. We assume talking about eating/cooking etc. we mean edible muschrooms.
Pieczarka is a type of mushroom, usually this one
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaricus_bisporus

Language / Mushroom: pieczarka vs grzyb [24]

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szmaciak_gałęzisty
grzyby-polskie.eu.interia.pl/16.htm
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piestrzenica

Haven't heard about those before, and English wikipedia has just Latin names for it.


Wikipedia says, that there are more kinds of mushrooms at pieczarka family. That one is the one I always think of when I say pieczarka, but then I wanted to be precise.

Life / If you are Polish abroad or of Polish descent, do you celebrate St. Nicholas day? [33]


we celebrate at 24th more , but still we have this too. You could give somebody a bottle of something and tell them you met St. Nick and he told you to give it to them and to share. That way you could

News / March for Poland's democracy organized by PiS 13th Dec [49]

I think they missed one date. They could have a march last week a the November uprising anniversary. Also I don't remember a march for October revolution. I mean we should commemorate every possible thing with freedom marches.

Life / Unique Culture Aspects of Krakow [18]

there is also traditional outfit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_costumes_of_Poland#Lesser_Poland.2FMa.C5.82opolska
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strój_krakowski
polalech.pl/krakowski-opis.htm

Life / Unique Culture Aspects of Krakow [18]

Also legends:

of Wanda who didn't want to marry German
of pigeons- soldiers
of Lajkonik
of Hejnał
of "kosciół mariacki" towers
of the Wawel dragon

cracow-life.com/poland/krakow-legends
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Wanda
polish4kids.com/kids-zone/legends/18-how-princess-wanda-saved-krakow

Language / Polish pronunciation for Christmas Carol [4]

You can even type bits
"Przy - bie - że - li do Be - tle - jem pa - ste - rze" to hear it more clearly, as accents are different in songs than in real speech.

Very important are ł ę ą ś ć ź ń ż ó
Also you are up to a challenge as it is a fast carol.

Food / How natural is food in Poland? [25]


Do you want organic / natural food like the tread title suggests, or just standard food?

I'd start with pierogi, as they are traditional, cheap and avaliable almost everywhere.

Also you'll see people selling "obwarzanki" and "oscypki" everywhere.

Food / How natural is food in Poland? [25]


Home-made sour cabbage beats one from the bag, especially one that has to travel abroad.
Fresh pierogi beat frozen ones.

And while Italian is very popular here, Chinese and Indian are not. If you want to try other, not Polish food in Kraków I'd suggest Ukrainian, Jewish, there is also very popular Georgian franchise.

Life / Is Poland a poor country? [578]

Really? And in UK and USA and other countries there aren't any homeless people? Who don't want to go to shelters?

It's a tragedy when somebody dies, either if it's because they didn't go to shelters or they fell and lost consciousness or were too drunk to notice it's freezing. But all it proves is that we have that sort of climate and

Food / How natural is food in Poland? [25]

Ok Are we talking about:
how natural Polish food on average is?
How natural Polish food imported to Uk is?
What meals we reccomend in Kraków, tahat are widely avaliable, and typically Polish?

I have an opinion about a quality of food, and could to some extend recommend some meals in Kraków but have no idea about quality of food in Polish shops.

All I know is that frozen meals or microwave ready are always worse than real thing, and it doesn't matter if it's Indian, Italian, Chinese or Polish.

News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]

The case is interesting, but of one person only.
We Poles have this fear
"Nie będzie Niemiec pluł nam w twarz
ni dzieci nam Germanił"

German won't spit in our face and won't Germanise our children - this could have been our anthem. It did happen in the past and now PIS has something to play with.

News / PiS wants symmetry for minorites living in Poland [71]


It is a generalization, but what I meant is that there is history and small things are used to remind it , and PIS uses it. I don't know if this is the cause to justify the means.