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March for Poland's democracy organized by PiS 13th Dec


polonius 54 | 420
18 Nov 2012 #1
PiS is planniung a great march for demcoracy and free media in Warsaw on 13th December, PiS leader Jarosław KaczyńskiJ said.

President of the Poland's Law and Justice party Jaroslaw Kaczynski invited everyone to participate in a march in defense of free media and democracy , which passes through the streets of Warsaw on December 13 this year . During the meetings with the residents of Lower Silesia noted that Polish society wants change.

- We have to prepare a big operation guarding Polish elections , guarding it that these voices are well numbered. I have no evidence that the former were rigged, but guarded God watches over - explained the president of PiS.

Zibi - | 336
18 Nov 2012 #2
ok, and what is your question?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
18 Nov 2012 #3
Another march? Are they not getting slightly sick of predicting huge crowds and only getting a tiny percentage of what they predicted?

By the way Bob, we have democracy and free media. If we didn't, you wouldn't get away with writing half the stuff you do about Tusk.
jon357 74 | 22,054
18 Nov 2012 #4
The word PiS and the word great don't sit well in the same sentence...

Another damp squib like the last 'march'.
Ironside 53 | 12,424
18 Nov 2012 #5
I wonder how many people will show up.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
18 Nov 2012 #6
Less than before. What kind of fool organises a march in the middle of December?

They're also losing their effectiveness - regardless of what people say, the first one with Jarek was a PR success. But if they do keep marching, people will get bored, stop attending and the media will get fed up too.
OP polonius 54 | 420
6 Dec 2012 #7
Warsaw's freedom and solidarity march is less than a week away. Y'all come and join Jarek and the lads marching for a truly independent Poland devoid of Tusk's oldboy conman/gangster cronies.
TommyG 1 | 361
6 Dec 2012 #8
Y'all come and join Jarek and the lads marching for a truly independent Poland

Are you going then? No? Me neither.
In what way is Poland not 'truly independent'? Tusk was elected under a democracy. Was he not?
Marysienka 1 | 195
6 Dec 2012 #9
I think they missed one date. They could have a march last week a the November uprising anniversary. Also I don't remember a march for October revolution. I mean we should commemorate every possible thing with freedom marches.
smurf 39 | 1,971
6 Dec 2012 #10
Warsaw's freedom and solidarity march is less than a week away

I hope you all get pneumonia.
Lenka 5 | 3,475
6 Dec 2012 #11
That's not cool.I think this march is stupid but let them march.If they express their point of view in respectful and peaceful maner I have nothing against it.
xzqbq7 2 | 100
7 Dec 2012 #12
I hope you all get pneumonia.

Same to you.

I think the idea behind frequent marches is that marching together brings solidarity, shows people they're not alone, and projects power that everybody in the march can feel. I remember years ago going to the anti-Iraqi war demonstration in Hollywood. There were several thousand people marching and it was very cool. I also remember on one street corner there were maybe 20-30 people with at least that many Israeli flags. They had pro Israel and pro war signs. I was very surprised.
TommyG 1 | 361
7 Dec 2012 #13
Why? why were you suprised? That 7000 people had one idea and 20-30 people had another? And the 20-30 people shocked you? Hmm....
Why march for democracy when you already have it?
Brits dont March for the Monarchy... we already have it.... we don't march for womens right either.... seems kinda strange...
xzqbq7 2 | 100
7 Dec 2012 #14
No, I wasn't surprised because some people had different idea. If they just demonstrated for whatever they wanted would be fine.
I was surprised that they had to show they were Jewish (or at least pro Israel), it was like they were showing that they wanted the war

because they were Jewish. I didn't think Israel needed this war so I was surprised. Everybody here thought it was a war for oil.
TommyG 1 | 361
7 Dec 2012 #15
I was very surprised.

No, I wasn't surprised

My head hurts... :(
xzqbq7 2 | 100
7 Dec 2012 #16
When nothing to say, manipulate other people words. Nice.
And I must ask is that what the English DO do?
TommyG 1 | 361
7 Dec 2012 #17
When nothing to say, manipulate other people words.

DO do

Do do? A Do do means kupa... erm.... :/

we don't march for democracy that would be silly.
We do march for oxygen though.... and sunlight.... several times a year... we feel strongly about these issues....
xzqbq7 2 | 100
7 Dec 2012 #18
Thanks for confirming.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
7 Dec 2012 #19
xzqbq7,how often can they have a no confidence vote?
TommyG 1 | 361
7 Dec 2012 #20
Confirming what exactly?
xzqbq7 2 | 100
7 Dec 2012 #21
That English being not a free people but subjects do not see the need to march for democracy.
And yes, they like to manipulate other people words.

p3undone are you asking how often can PiS lose elections?
Good question, I started being interested in Poland's affairs less than one year ago, so I cannot answer.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
7 Dec 2012 #22
xzqbq7,no,I was just curios as to how often they can ask for vote of no confidence.My knowledge is much less than yours,I'm sure.
TommyG 1 | 361
7 Dec 2012 #23
That English being not a free people but subjects do not see the need to march for democracy.
And yes, they like to manipulate other people words.

the English are a free people. The monarchy has no power.

p3undone are you asking how often can PiS lose elections?

In Poland they are called P1SS... Apparently they aren't very popular...
p3undone 8 | 1,132
7 Dec 2012 #24
TommyG,my question was,how often can they call for a vote of no confidence?
TommyG 1 | 361
7 Dec 2012 #25
Surely one successful vote of no confidence should be acceptable in any democracy...
In Poland.... I dunno...
But, of course, if the motion is defeated the losers need to accept that also...
Poland does have elections and the public will ultimately decide who their govt is...
xzqbq7 2 | 100
7 Dec 2012 #26
the English are a free people.

OK, so 'free subjects', another language twist. Anyway you have a headache, why you still typing?

[quote=p3undone][/quote]
I think they can ask whenever they want, but they will only do it once. Not to win, but to show to the public that the SLD/RP 'opposition'

is not really an opposition. That's what I think anyway.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
7 Dec 2012 #27
TommyG,I've never heard of it being used here,accept against the Gov that preceded Schwarzenegger.
OP polonius 54 | 420
13 Dec 2012 #28
15,000 marched under PiS banners for freedom, sollidairty and independence on 13th Dec. according to TVP INFO and TVN24.
Zibi - | 336
14 Dec 2012 #29
A totally sad event with so many confused people attending, organized by a guy who even wasn't interned on Dec 13, 1981, but now claims glory for himself.
Ironside 53 | 12,424
14 Dec 2012 #30
anized by a guy who even wasn't interned on Dec 13, 1981,

So what?

A totally sad event with so many confused people attending,

Confused about what?


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