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TheOther   
21 Oct 2009
Polonia / What about the Poles living in Germany? [65]

Nah, no German Poles on this forum?

They are sleeping already.

BTW: did you notice that the whois information has been deleted? It's not even in Off Topic... ;-)

Anything that could be considered personal information is likely to be deleted unless it is posted by the person themselves or they have given permission for it to be posted. Thanks.
TheOther   
20 Oct 2009
Polonia / What about the Poles living in Germany? [65]

Maybe it's because the forum is hosted in an English speaking country?

That's not an argument IMHO, as almost everybody in Germany speaks English as you know.
TheOther   
20 Oct 2009
Polonia / What about the Poles living in Germany? [65]

I was always wondering why there is no "Polonia - Germany" under the Poland Abroad section, given the fact that it is the second largest Polonia in the world. Some inconvenient truth?
TheOther   
20 Oct 2009
News / I suggest a new location on the map for Poland! [44]

This is a traditional Polish area of Detroit

Detroit? Just read in the news yesterday that the unemployment rate for 16 to 19 year olds is 57%, and the average is roughly 29%. "Great" place to be, really.
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

the results are false

Not really, because you cannot prove whether those immigrants considered themselves Germans or Poles for example. You are questioning the definition of 'ethnicity' that the American authorities used, I don't. That's all.

Well, that may be but the census we are talking about (where the german heritage group is the biggest in the US) was recent. People where asked about their heritage

But this heritage is not recent. The knowledge of it is in part based on the documentation of the American immigration authorities.
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

Piorun

Gheez, Piorun ... we are talking about 1890 to 1905. They didn't care if you were an ethnic Pole, because the country of Poland didn't exist. You came from Russia, so you were a Russian. You came from the German Empire, so you were a German. You came from Austria-Hungary, so you were an Austrian-Hungarian. What's so difficult to understand? Citizenship equaled ethnicity, as I said before.

It might come as a shock...

Not really, as they told me I'm Caucasian although I'm not from that region... :)
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

You are a Yank

No, I'm not.

where he talks about the ethnic group not citizenship

Ethnic group equaled citizenship. There were also no Basks (Basques) for example, just Spanish.

Am I missing something

Yes... ;)
Is was speaking from a strictly genealogical perspective.
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

Looking through the US immigration records they were listed as either Austrian or German even though they were Polish

Of course, because they were Austrian-Hungarian, Russian or German citizens.

There two reason for emigration from Poland under Russian rule in 1905

Sorry to be picky here, but there was NO Poland in 1905. In genealogy you have to base your research on facts and not on wishful thinking... ;)
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

I was just curious about the conditions in Poland at that time that might have prompted so many people to leave

Before you start your research make sure you understand that Poland didn't exist during the time frame you've mentioned. You'll get a completely wrong impression and also rely on false data if you ignore this fact. To quickly answer your question: the main reason why so many people came over to the US at the time is economic. Most families were very poor and usually had five or more children. Diseases like tuberculosis and diphteria were widespread and child mortality was very high where the families came from.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland
TheOther   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

What you're referring to is part of the "back-stabbing" legend

I know. Just wanted to mention it. Where Hitler's irrational hatred for Jewish people came from can probably never be explained.
TheOther   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

It's not quite clear where his hatred for Jews came from, but the most plausible 2 reasons are

There's another explanation/ theory floating around: the Jewish bankers were responsible for Germany's defeat in WW1, because they simply cut the funding. Hitler supposedly hated them for this.
TheOther   
28 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

There were approxiamately 960.000 Jews killed at Auschwitz and 140 to 150.000 Poles

M-G, I asked you before in a different thread: why do you distinguish between Jews and Poles? Many of the Jewish Holocaust victims were Polish (or other) nationals.
TheOther   
26 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

only to end that the Poles were worst off and not the Jews

Why do you distinguish between Poles and Jews? The Jewish victims of the Holocaust were Polish, Dutch, German, French, etc. nationals.
TheOther   
25 Sep 2009
USA, Canada / Can Polish citizens with US greencard travel to Canada? [63]

well, it's a bit different on the ground then in the air..

Yeah, might well be. Although I would bring my passport anyway - just in case.

You don't need your Green Card if you are a permanent citizen

If you're a US citizen, then you only need your passport, but if you are a permanent resident (holding a permanent greencard) then you need both greencard and passport. Just happened to me.
TheOther   
25 Sep 2009
USA, Canada / Can Polish citizens with US greencard travel to Canada? [63]

plk123
I don't know about crossing the land border between Canada and the USA, but I'm certain about flying into the US. Just went through it a few weeks ago when I came back from a business trip. They even fingerprinted and photographed me at the passport control, although I am a permanent resident and have a greencard.
TheOther   
25 Sep 2009
USA, Canada / Can Polish citizens with US greencard travel to Canada? [63]

permamnent green card doesn't need travel documents

Not true. If you want to reenter the USA you will need your greencard as well as your passport. Otherwise they won't let you in.