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What are the key features of the Polish Eagle?


fyip4 1 | 3
28 Jul 2009  #1
I'm looking to design my own rendition of the Polish eagle for a tattoo and I was wondering which features I should make sure I include and shouldn't change.

Have a look at the "similar threads" above your post, for more information
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
28 Jul 2009  #2
The crown on it's head is important.
And the colours White and Red.
The commies tried to chip off the crown from the the symbol of the eagle on walls and statues.
But wait for someone else's reply, as I am not certain.
McCoy 27 | 1,276
28 Jul 2009  #3
google orzeł bielik
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
28 Jul 2009  #4
I thought he meant

tygielski.org/images/polisheagle.jpg

eagle Polish
OP fyip4 1 | 3
28 Jul 2009  #5
yes i mean ^that^
Wroclaw 44 | 5,388
28 Jul 2009  #6
I was wondering which features I should make sure I include and shouldn't change.

this may help: flagspot.net/flags/pl.html
McCoy 27 | 1,276
28 Jul 2009  #7
yes i mean ^that^

wouldnt it be easier to google polish coat of arms then asking the question on forums
OP fyip4 1 | 3
28 Jul 2009  #8
No I was wondering if any specific features such as the crown or stars on the wing had some sort of meaning or importance to the eagle.
Babinich 1 | 455
29 Jul 2009  #9
"What are the key features of the Polish Eagle?"

They are not the seen but the unseen.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
2 Oct 2009  #10
The crown on it's head is important.

You forgot the main thing, its image should be placed upon the wing of the black double headed eagle
southern 75 | 7,097
3 Oct 2009  #11
What are the key features of the Polish Eagle?

It looks to the West,ready to eat the Teutons.
TheOther 5 | 3,697
3 Oct 2009  #12
Aaaah ... that's why the eagle is missing so many feathers ... ;)
skeeeeezo - | 2
16 May 2010  #13
Thread attached on merging:
What is the origins of the Polish eagle within Polish culture?

Could someone please explain the origina of the eagle within polish culture? thanks
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
16 May 2010  #14
"The White Eagle emblem originated when Poland's legendary founder Lech saw a white eagle's nest. When he looked at the bird, a ray of sunshine from the red setting sun fell on its wings, so they appeared tipped with gold, the rest of the eagle was pure white. He was delighted and decided to settle there and placed the eagle on his emblem."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Poland#Legend
plk123 8 | 4,150
17 May 2010  #15
The crown on it's head is important.

kind of.. PL hasn't been a kingdom in over a couple of centuries so the crown really doesn't fit to be on the head but for some reason it's insisted on.. i don't get it.

the eagle is white.. no red.. all features are important as it's unique..

You forgot the main thing, its image should be placed upon the wing of the black double headed eagle

lol.. that's actually a golden eagle but yeah.
1jola 14 | 1,879
17 May 2010  #16
kind of.. PL hasn't been a kingdom in over a couple of centuries so the crown really doesn't fit to be on the head but for some reason it's insisted on.. i don't get it.

You don't change symbols at will. The crown is a well established feature and since the communists removed it, it is now also symbolic of their defeat.
plk123 8 | 4,150
17 May 2010  #17
You don't change symbols at will.

is that right?

it is now also symbolic of their defeat.

that's not a logical symbolism.. kind of sounds like a pollack joke.. and then we wonder..
skysoulmate 14 | 1,297
17 May 2010  #18
kind of.. PL hasn't been a kingdom in over a couple of centuries so the crown really doesn't fit to be on the head but for some reason it's insisted on.. i don't get it.

plk - your leftist leanings (I'm just sayin' ;) shouldn't affect your appreciation of history and traditions that I'm sure you enjoy.

The two headed eagle you showed is not the Polish Eagle but rather the Russian snake. The crownless Polish Eagle is not a Polish Eagle either but rather the Russian Puppet Snake - a symbol of the Polish humiliation. A semi-Polish Eagle without balls if you prefer.

The crown is without a doubt the most important part of the Biały Orzeł and whereas in the past it was a symbol of the Monarchy it is now a symbol of Poland being independent again and of the Polish population being in charge, the "kings" of their own destiny.

I hope that 1,000 years from now the Polish Eagle still has a crown. ..even if it's made of trilithium or Pan-Galactic cargonite - it gotta have a crown!!!

PS. ...and yes, I like, no I treasure the In-God-We-Trust motto here in the States. Oh, and I own several guns and love Jack Daniels too! lol

There, now I feel better...
plk123 8 | 4,150
17 May 2010  #19
yeah, i'm against the 'in god we trust' on the money.. it has nothing to do with anything.. it makes no sense.. it would make sense on vatican coin but not on US currency..

the double headed eagle (yes russian) with the white eagle in the middle.. congress of poland.. 1815
1jola 14 | 1,879
17 May 2010  #20
PLK, the arrows in the talons of the American eagle probably don't make sense to you either since US hasn't used arrows for centuries. LOL
skysoulmate 14 | 1,297
17 May 2010  #21
...and 50 stars on our flag don't make sense either as there are 46 States and 4 Commonwealths ('Rzeczpospolita') in our union. (Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia)

So the flag should have 46 stars and 4 sparkles, right? ;)

Just keedin'
isthatu2 4 | 2,708
18 May 2010  #22
You don't change symbols at will.

is that right?

lol, made me smile,I own 6 very differnt styles of Polish army cap eagles(i dont mean sizes,I mean styles,ie all for rogatewkas) from early to late 1930s :)
plk123 8 | 4,150
19 May 2010  #23
So the flag should have 46 stars and 4 sparkles, right? ;)

yes, now we're talking.. lolol
nott 3 | 594
17 Jun 2010  #24
kind of.. PL hasn't been a kingdom in over a couple of centuries so the crown really doesn't fit to be on the head but for some reason it's insisted on.. i don't get it.

In heraldry, crown on the head of a heraldic beast is a symbol of sovereignty. Commies didn't realize that, and removed the crown from the coat of arms of the PRPoland as a reactionary symbol. Ironically, they just illustrated the actual status of the PRP.
skibum 8 | 62
17 Jun 2010  #25
Here's the legend of the White Eagle of Poland.
z_darius 14 | 3,969
17 Jun 2010  #26
So the flag should have 46 stars and 4 sparkles, right? ;)

Stars are so yesterday

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Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,718
18 Jun 2010  #27
In heraldry, crown on the head of a heraldic beast is a symbol of sovereignty.

Hmmm...not quite: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_(heraldry)

A Crown is often an emblem of the monarchy, a monarch's government, or items endorsed by it; see The Crown. A specific type of crown (or coronet for lower ranks of peerage) is employed in heraldry under strict rules.
Indeed some monarchies never had a physical crown, just a heraldic representation, as in the constitutional kingdom of Belgium.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(heraldry)
nott 3 | 594
18 Jun 2010  #28
try Google 'crown symbol sovereignty'. Crowned heraldic beast symbolizes sovereignty. Contrarily, a beast with a crown hanging from its neck indicates dependence, vassaldom, fief. As an example see how the Prussian coat of arms changed from a black eagle with a crown around its neck (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Prussia), Polish fief, to a black eagle crowned, sovereign state since 1702.

The whole lot of diverse crowns shown in the Wiki article pertains to crowns located in the helm, not in the blazon. Helluva difference in symbolics.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,718
18 Jun 2010  #29
Alot of eagles represent sovereign countries without any crown whatsoever....
nott 3 | 594
19 Jun 2010  #30
And a lot of monarchies have no crown, nor an eagle, nor a lion in their coats of arms, and some do not even have a coats of arms us such. This doesn't change the symbolism of the crown of the Polish Eagle, stemming from the European heraldic tradition.

Symbols say what people who created them say they say, and if others have different opinions, they just have no understanding. I've just checked the Austrian coat of arms, which bothered me always, and it turns out that sickle and hammer were introduced in 1919 with no reference to communism.


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