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Posts by vetala  

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Last Post: 28 Mar 2011
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Speaks Polish?: yes

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vetala   
27 Aug 2010
Genealogy / Mixed-Blood Poles in America (Do we count?) [118]

most of what you said is untrue with exception of some point which are debatable and will remain so in foreseeable future!

Yeah, sure. You have no arguments so you're being vague.
vetala   
27 Aug 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

They still live with their parents and dont actually look after the kids..

She didn't finish her education. This clearly shows that she was forced to care for the baby all day long.
vetala   
27 Aug 2010
Genealogy / Mixed-Blood Poles in America (Do we count?) [118]

Since we're having an argument over who has the right to consider themselves Polish, I'd like to remind you all that Poland's greatest astronomer was a German, greatest writer was a Lithuanian, greatest painter was Czech, and virtually all greatest leaders were either only half-Polish or not Polish at all. If you deny them all Polishness jsut because one (or both!) of their parents weren't Polish, then that would mean Poles had never achieved anything.
vetala   
26 Aug 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

What if her family helps her?

No 12 year old should be forced to give up childhood. The youngest mother in history was 9, do you think she also should have put the toys away and start changing nappies instead? Did you miss the part where that woman said she's hoping that her daughter will have a normal childhood? This clearly shows that she wasn't happy with how her life turned out.
vetala   
26 Aug 2010
Genealogy / Mixed-Blood Poles in America (Do we count?) [118]

I'm Polish (from Poland) and I consider you Polish. I can't speak for Polish Americans but I've seen comments about the actor Danny Pudi (half-Polish/half-Indian) and people are pretty proud of his Polish connection. I'm sure if you ever become a star the whole American Polonia will go out of their way to claim you ;)
vetala   
24 Aug 2010
UK, Ireland / Britain's youngest mum gave birth at 12 [70]

12-year-olds are too young and irresponsible to care for children. They should have taken that child from her and let it be raised by a responsible adult.
vetala   
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]

Yet another thread where Jews and antisemites are trying to outcry each other with biased, hateful remarks. MG is trying to prove that Poland has always been hell on Earth for Jews and that virtually all Poles are evil, heartless murderers. Ender and others are trying to prove that Poles are saints and Jews are the ones who are evil, heartless murderers. This is the sort of discussion where I have nobody to side with :(
vetala   
15 Aug 2010
Love / India guy Polish girl [57]

If she wanted to date someone who knows Polish culture, then she would date a Pole. If you want to catch her attention it would be better to show her how interesting is YOUR country and culture.

No self-respecting woman will date a guy who keeps showing her that she's somehow better and more interesting than him. This sort of behaviour only reasserts her belief that she deserves more.
vetala   
5 Aug 2010
History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [273]

Poland was the only country in the world involved in post WWll Jewish pogroms and murder.

Not the only one. There were post-war pogroms and murder of Jews in Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Russia and Ukraine as well.
vetala   
3 Aug 2010
History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [273]

The relations between Poles and Ukrainians in interwar Poland reminds me a lot of the relations between Israelis and Palestinians. In both cases we have people who occupy lands on which the majority of the population wishes for their own state, said population is suppressed and subject to discriminatory measures and responds by turning to extremism and terrorism.

If you think that Poland was right in using violence against the Ukrainians for their "disloyalty" to the Polish state, then I assume that you also support the war in Gaza, don't you?

And of course, how could you not support Germany's Kulturkampf? Or Russia's punishment for the Polish rebellions? Those damn, disloyal Poles!
vetala   
3 Aug 2010
History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [273]

Sokrates

Why do you keep bringing up the events in Wołyń when the discussion isn't about "Who was worse during WWII" but about the religious repercussions in the Second Polish Republic? Or should we also not be allowed to talk about German antrocities in occupied Poland because Germans were later victims of brutal expulsions? If you want to discuss Wołyń, then I advise you to make a separate thread (although I must say that it would be more practical if this thread wasn't just about the desacration of churches but also more general, about nationalistic policies in interwar Poland)
vetala   
1 Aug 2010
Genealogy / Unknown Origins Dzikowicz [9]

Last time I checked, Ukrainians looked the same as Poles, so saying that you can't be Polish because you look "Ukrainian" sounds rather ridiculous. And of course there are Ukrainians with Polish surnames and Poles with Ukrainian surnames - we used to be one country for several centuries and obviously we intermarried a lot.

Things like surname or looks are not enough to tell if your ancestry is Polish or Ukrainian, you need birth certificates of your ancestors for that.
vetala   
31 Jul 2010
History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [273]

I hope you keep that in mind next time you blame Prussia for trying to achieve national coherence in demanding an official language from all, or showing the church their limits...;)

No. I see both actions - German Kulturkampf and the destruction of Ukrainian churches by Poles - as shameful and worthy only of condemnation.
vetala   
31 Jul 2010
History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [273]

Seanus
Wait, I thought you were British? You might as well ask why did Protestants and Catholics kill each other since they're all Christians anyway.

It's not so much about the differences in religions but the fact that belonging to two different churches creates a division in the population. Interwar Poland was fixated on the goal of unity and assimilation, so it's understandable that they would target religion as well. And don't forget that the area was ethnically mixed and Ukrainians didn't hide the fact that they'd much rather live in a state of their own than in Poland. Religious divisions were only one aspect of the conflict.
vetala   
28 Jul 2010
Love / 'Battered husbands' - still a taboo subject in Poland [387]

Oh, poor men! How they suffer with those terrible women! All those centuries of being denied human rights and of the inequality! And today it's not much better - rapes, assaults and domestic violence! Not to mention the constant threat of being targeted by people conducting human trafficking! I can always see terror in the eyes of men who are walking next to me on the empty, dark street! And they can't even be safe at home, which is why so many men are killed every year by their abusive wifes! They have nowhere to escape, after all they have no way of providing for themselves with the current system, in which they're often paid less than women or aren't hired at all! It's so tough being a man in Poland!
vetala   
28 Jul 2010
History / Endecja - State Sponsored Anti Semitism 1935 - 1939. [138]

And to think that just yesterday I noticed with great pleasure that nobody has mentioned Jews for the past few days... Shame on you, MG!

As for Endecja - they were terrible nationalists, that's true, but aren't you going too far in demonizing the situation of Jews in Poland? Is it not true that nearly half of the urban population was Jewish and a third of the doctors, lawyers and other intellectualists were Jewish? Isn't it true that there were mostly-Jewish or even all-Jewish parties in the Polish government? There's nothing wrong with that, of course (although I can see why Poles saw them as a competition) but it does show that a Jew was likely to lead a quite decent life in Poland.
vetala   
19 Jul 2010
Genealogy / Polish-Ukranian roots and genes [72]

I'm also interested. How can Poles have more Tatar haploids than Ukrainians? Crimea is IN Ukraine!
vetala   
30 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / What do you hate about England and English people? [142]

I don't like what some of the English people say online. In real life they're all very sweet and friendly but once I go online I suddenly see only: "DEY TERK ER JEEEEERBS!"
vetala   
24 Jun 2010
History / Wealth of the Polish nobility [29]

Ah, so that's where the tax money disappeared...

You're forgetting that the only rich nobles in Poland were the magnates and yes, they were RICH. However, most nobles were poor.
vetala   
21 Jun 2010
Travel / Why do people say that Poland is so unsafe? [60]

Maybe it's because France and Spain only get news from Poland with headlines like "Black man beaten in Poland" and never "Black man not beaten in Poland, bought a postcard"
vetala   
21 Jun 2010
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

But following your logic, would you then accept that foreigners living in Poland, working and paying taxes there, have the right to vote?

I don't see a problem.
vetala   
21 Jun 2010
History / Israeli wants to wipe Poland off the map! [198]

You can Israel watching self-destruct slowly but surely...

Sad but true... In just few months Israel managed to p*ss off EVERYBODY. WTF are they thinking!
vetala   
21 Jun 2010
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

This confirms my suspition about the views of Polish Americans. While Poland transformed they remained stuck in the old way of thinking.
vetala   
20 Jun 2010
Genealogy / Funny Polish surnames [63]

Seems I have a good sense for things. I just thought that sounded like a Jewish name for some reason it didn't sound Polish at all.

Seems like you don't. Głąb is a regular Polish word meaning cabbage or, colloqually, an idiot.