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Mixed-Blood Poles in America (Do we count?)


josh sklodowski
26 Aug 2010 #1
My Mom's from Jefferson Park. My Dad's from West Englewood. I'm Polish and Black. I've always considered myself Polish-American (Half Polish when under pressure.) Do I count? How accepting is the Polish-American community on such issues surrounding mixed race Poles?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
26 Aug 2010 #2
Mixed-Blood Poles in America (Do we count?)

I would imagine most count, at least to ten.

Ah, I'm just joshing you.

Hello and welcome.
zetigrek
26 Aug 2010 #3
you are who you feel you are. (jesteś tym kim się czujesz)

If someone takes you this right he is a pr1ck. (jeśli ktoś odbiera ci to prawo, to znaczy, że jest dupkiem)

:)
OP josh sklodowski
26 Aug 2010 #4
Lol! Hello!

But, on a more serious note, I did hear about some things upon my return to Chicago. And, I am rather curious as to what people think. (I feel like the anonymity of an online forum will render people most honest, no matter how brutally.)
zetigrek
26 Aug 2010 #5
on this forum there lots of racists from american "polonia". i don't know if this sample is reliable.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
26 Aug 2010 #6
I did hear about some things upon my return to Chicago.

What things did you hear?

I am rather curious as to what people think.

I am not Polish and I live in Poland.
I think Europeans have accepted that Americans are very mixed, in my opinion this is a very good thing.

I feel like the anonymity of an online forum will render people most honest, no matter how brutally.

Expect brutality not so much honesty.
OP josh sklodowski
26 Aug 2010 #7
I heard that Poles in Chicago are racist. I got to know a kid who was the son of a Polish immigrant who was raised in a Polish enclave in Chicago who admitted the Poles he was raised around were fairly Anti-Semetic and Racist towards blacks.
zetigrek
26 Aug 2010 #8
I think that unfortunately you can meet lots of such ppl either in USA and Poland. But please don't assume that Pole=racist. Everyone is an individual case.

Talk with pgtx she's a Pole living in Texas.
I'm Polish woman living in Poland and I don't know how is it in USA.
OP josh sklodowski
26 Aug 2010 #9
It seems like you two have an idea of the kind of perception I'm looking for.

PS (How do you change your username?)
zetigrek
26 Aug 2010 #10
PS (How do you change your username?)

Try to register
OP josh sklodowski
26 Aug 2010 #11
On a somewhat separate note, what do you mean when you say Europeans regard Americans as very mixed?

I've read about the social differences in regards to mixed-race individuals in the UK, for example, and the US.

Are Europeans aware of the American mixed-race ethics?

Is there anything you can tell me in regards to acceptance of lack there of in the American Polonia community?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
26 Aug 2010 #12
what do you mean when you say Europeans regard Americans as very mixed?

Well it appears that all Americans are half Irish, German, Polish, etc...
Which kind of brings us back to your point about counting, there are only two halves in a whole :D

Are Europeans aware of the American mixed-race ethics?

What's that?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,386
26 Aug 2010 #13
PS (How do you change your username?)

Register with the forum... don't sign in as guest.

in the box marked 'are u willing to hand over your soul' choose yes.
OP josh sklodowski
26 Aug 2010 #14
I already registered. I just don't know how to change it.
vetala - | 382
26 Aug 2010 #15
I'm Polish (from Poland) and I consider you Polish. I can't speak for Polish Americans but I've seen comments about the actor Danny Pudi (half-Polish/half-Indian) and people are pretty proud of his Polish connection. I'm sure if you ever become a star the whole American Polonia will go out of their way to claim you ;)
zetigrek
26 Aug 2010 #16
I already registered. I just don't know how to change it.

no you are not. If you have been registered your nick would be bold and you'd have a profile.
OP josh sklodowski
26 Aug 2010 #17
Well, It seems as though you're over looking the difference in the US between ethnic mixing and "racial" mixing.

Perhaps, If I were half Polish and Half Irish, or some other ethnic or non-ethnic white, the social constraint would not have made me so self conscious.

Whatever the American multi-racial ethics will be, they are in development now and uncertain. But, to give you an idea, (my interest in the Polish-American communities perception of my case being another separate point), Obama is regarded by many Americans to be only black, despite his mixed race heritage.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
26 Aug 2010 #18
I'm sure if you ever become a star the whole American Polonia will go out of their way to claim you ;)

"If relativity is proved right the Germans will call me a German, the Swiss will call me a Swiss citizen, and the French will call me a great scientist. If relativity is proved wrong the French will call me a Swiss, the Swiss will call me a German and the Germans will call me a Jew."

Albert Einstein.

It seems as though you're over looking the difference in the US between ethnic mixing and "racial" mixing.

Ah, you know yourself, some people think that "racial" mixing is the worst thing in the world.
In fact expect many people to post on here telling you how wrong it is.
For me personally and for the friends I have in Poland, it's a non-issue.
zetigrek
26 Aug 2010 #19
Obama is regarded by many Americans to be only black, despite his mixed race heritage.

I regard him white... I'm not kidding! ;)
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
26 Aug 2010 #20
How accepting is the Polish-American community on such issues surrounding mixed race Poles?

Just curious, how accepting is the African-American community on such issues surrounding mixed race Africans?
plk123 8 | 4,150
26 Aug 2010 #21
on this forum there lots of racists from american "polonia". i don't know if this sample is reliable.

most of these racist here are actually not from USA but PL.. and josh, they will not accept you as polish.. hell, most here don't accept me as Polish, and i actually am..

Albert Einstein.

lol

Just curious, how accepting is the African-American community on such issues surrounding mixed race Africans?

since mixed = black here... they are black
McCoy 27 | 1,275
26 Aug 2010 #22
m

this guy has both parents from Nigeria but born in Poland, rised in Poland, lives in Poland, speaks polish, thinks polish and fights for PL. if anyone thinks that hes anything else but polish just because of his african background is a dumb fcuk
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
26 Aug 2010 #23
if anyone thinks that hes anything else but polish just because of his african background

They wouldn't say it to his face :D
pgtx 30 | 3,158
26 Aug 2010 #24
what's his name?
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
26 Aug 2010 #25
my friend a Polish girl has two kids with a Jamaican guy, and my other friend a Polish guy has a kid with a Puerto Rican girl, besides them i don't know any other mixed Polish people. Most Poles in America date or marry other Poles or white Americans, Irish, Italian.
McCoy 27 | 1,275
26 Aug 2010 #26
what's his name?

Izuagbe Ugonoh

fightsport.pl/wywiady/izuagbe-ugonoh-patrze-w-lustro-i-zastanawiam-jak-to-sie-stalo-wywiad-z-najbardziej-ekscytujacym-polskim-fighterem-k-1.htm
Tymoteusz 2 | 353
26 Aug 2010 #27
Crazy-fun thread.

Josh,

What are you looking to hear? You're an American. My Polish, Irish, and Native American heritage are just passing curiosities. We will never actually be thought of as belonging to any other "Tribe" if you will.

Oppose douche-baggery in all its forms and have a nice day
zetigrek
26 Aug 2010 #28
hell, most here don't accept me as Polish, and i actually am..

plk they just poke fun of you, and you take it serious.
Suppoko - | 10
26 Aug 2010 #29
If you consider yourself polish and American than that is what you are. Anyone that tells you different is wrong. Nobody can say that you are not a race/nationality if your heritage says you are. Narrowminded thinking like that is what causes wars. You don't need to be born in poland live and poland and speak polish to be considered a pole.

The fact is people are always going to consider yourself one thing or another and that's thier choice. But what you consider yourself is the thing that matters. My grandfather was born in Glasgow and move to the states as a child With his parents. Do I consider myself polish even tho I was not born there? Damn right I do and nobody will tell me different

Damn it I mean Krakow not Glasgow my bad
shewolf 5 | 1,077
27 Aug 2010 #30
Tymoteusz, do you look "white"? It's not that simple for people who are mixed with a race that is considered "minority" such as Latino, African American, Asian, etc. Not everyone gets treated equally like that, like we're all just "Americans". Even the government Census separates people into racial groups. For example, they consider you "Hispanic or Latino" if you had a parent or grandparent from a Latin American country. It doesn't matter if you and all your other ancestors were American or European.


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