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Can a nation totally change its characteristics and national character throughout history? [62]
@Torq
So your thinking about group mentality and "instinct" what a certain amount of people do while grouped together without question and/or without much willingness to contest it and easily subdued by group pressure compared to other things or values that no group pressure would help?
That's what differentiates one group from another Torq!!! This is why we talk about Ukrainians and not Poles! Ukrainians have a more savage streak then Poles! Just as anybody more east of Ukraine too! Why do you think the more east you go people are more willing to have a central authority?! To keep this savagery at bay of course!
Ukrainians want to change and are willing to, as far as shedding blood for it (with many trying to be smart about it and outplay U.S.A, Europe, Poland and Russia at the same time to everyone's dissatisfaction but, that is ALSO part of Ukrainians!)
I just don't get it, you really think everyone around are like Poles? Or even close? Many people mistakenly attribute cultural values as human values (I have seen this among Poles and Norwegians, which I just *facepalm* and shame my head around internally). It seems like you are going through this right now with this thread.
So I am warning you and trying to tell you. Do not expect Germans to be Polish, do not expect Ukrainians to be Polish, do not expect Russians to be Polish.
Expect Russians to be Russians, Ukrainians to be Ukrainians and Germans to be Germans.
You cannot change their core (God can as proven with Polish history) so no use focusing on that.
One can influence the flavour, change a few ingredients. Cake is still cake, bread is bread and oranges are oranges