Former Poland PM Donald Tusk - A Kashub or a German.

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Donald Tusk, the current prime minister of Poland has a very interesting and mysterious history.

Some facts.

Donalds Tusk grandfather served in the Wechrmacht.

The other grandfather was building the Wolfs Den complex, supposedly as a slave laborer yet when having an accident he received full medical care and was visited (along with a small number of other workers, all professional Germans) by Adolf Hitler.

Tusks paternat grand-aunt (sister of his grandfather) died with her three children aboard Wilhelm Gustloff which evacuated German and German only civilians to Germany.

According to Szczepuła Hitler actually shook hands with Tusks grandfather (according to eyewitnesses) an unheard of thing to do towards a slave laborer.

So is Tusk a German?

The next time you open a thread in the history forum with a comment like that, I shall personally recommend to admin that he bans you from this forum for good.

Found this " One things for certain the mother of Donald Tusk as she herself claims in 50% German, just like 100% German were Anna(guess her mother), brother Artur mother Otylia and father Albert, with the surname Liebke.

He speaks German, that's it. Eh, he was forced to serve, just like many Jews were. You are convincing only yourself here, Sok

He was a Kashub, who signed volksliste, wasn't he?

Anyway - Tusk may have German roots, but he describes himself as Kaszuba, which makes him Polish
(as Kashubs are a part of larger Polish ethnos.)

Interesting, I didn't know it... Anyway I think that more important If he is a Pole, German, Eskimo or whatever else is that he is working against interests of Poland and Poles.

Thats a very mysterious fact, we know that Józef Tusk was in a concentration camp, the mysterious bit is that we dont know in what character he was there, supposedly as a prisoner but no record of his stay exists anywhere, from there he goes to Wechrmacht.

The case becomes even more spicy when you realise that Wechrmacht did NOT recruit Poles into their ranks from concentration camps so there is an implication that Tusks family had an active part in German crimes against Poles but no documents exist either way apart from the very vague register of arrival.


Its pretty important, there's an implication that Tusk comes from a family with Nazi roots and hid it on purpose, thats pretty big.

It doesn't matter how you describe yourself. I could describe myself as a Russian but who would I be fooling? According to, LOL. That says it all. Stick to the facts, guys.

You're suggesting as a guard? lol
That sounds like a bad Jewish joke "my grandfather died in a concentration camp.
He was drunk and fell out of a guard tower"

Do you have any ... evidence for these 'facts' or should we just take your word?

We don't know why he was there, exactly. A bit of conspiracy work against Tusk, Sok?

I'm not suggesting anything i'm posting facts.

Tusks grandfather was in a concentration camp occupying an unspecified position, no prison papers can be located even though intact records of the camp have been recovered.

He was drafted into the german army which never happened to polish POWs or slave laborers which in concentration or labor camps, ever.

Those are the facts, whether he was a camp guard or something else remains unknown but his stay at the camp is shrouded it mystery.

@Mafketis.

"Dziadek w Wechrmahcie" is the book to read, Szczypuła compiles archival evidence, among other records of the fate of variou members of the Tusk family, the book is factual which makes it a good if a bit dry read.

There's more sources but she effectively compiles the most important bits of them all.

That does sound creepy if it's all true. Do we know which camp at least?

Aushwitz/Oświęcim.

The first smiling guy does look like Tusk

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Sok, people write all sorts of rubbish in books. Keep up with the hearsay facts, tho, They are quite amusing :)

Sean her facts are checked, researched and backed by records and testimonies, they're also all given in the book to recheck them if need be.

Thats to say there's other sources like Gustloffs manifest which indeed lists Tusks grand-aunt and her kids as passengers.

'According to', 'we don't know', 'supposedly', 'an implication', 'no documents exist either way' etc etc. 'Is shrouded in mystery' sounds like a conspiracy. Geez, Ukrainians sided with the SS. Are they now German too? ;)

*notes colorful wordings for later use*


Sure he is! :)


Don't tell me that means Wehrmacht...

He does look like Tusk indeed, and he's driving a car full of SS-men!

Why isn't PiS printing this picture in millions of copies and flooding Poland with it? ;-)

Maybe they don't believe in the supposed effect?
What if a majority says.."Tusk is German, his families were Nazis - YAY!"

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Not a Pole, then? ;)

As to the ducks being able to live in a spacious flat in the elite Żolibórz area in commie time?

Polish citizen

Even I could be a Polish citizen if I wanted to be. That doesn't make me a Pole, does it?

Essentially because nothing can be proven, after all this time we'd need documents from the camp he stayed in and we aint finding those anytime soon if ever and allegations are not enough.


Ah my bad sorry i always get that word wrong unless i take my time to write it carefully.


Ukrainians were never visited by Hitler on friendly terms nor did they get out of a Concentration Camp in a Wehrmacht uniform, hell no one did!

No it doesn't ;) what are the criteria for a non Polish born to obtain Polish citizenship?

Sok, it still doesn't make him German.

Penn, usually 5 years of registered residence here. I don't want to go off-topic.

So, the PM of Poland is a German? ;0 ;)

well, it makes you a Polish citizen


no PB? Then I'll ask you a question, are you an American or not?
I'm not attacking you, just trying to understand you.

Let him be a German if he is, the issue is whether what he does is for the greater good of Poland not Germany.