strzyga
28 Sep 2012
strzyga
28 Sep 2012
Language / kiedy i tam [15]
ale cóż = ale cóż z tego, ale co z tego
kiedy i tam = skoro nawet tam - if/since even there where the wizards live...
Zibi explained it very well, I'm just giving you alternative versions as they may help you to get a better feel of the phrase.
Widziałem w przyszłości różne cuda, ale cóż, kiedy i tam, gdzie mieszkają tylko czarownicy, nie można żyć wiecznie.
ale cóż = ale cóż z tego, ale co z tego
kiedy i tam = skoro nawet tam - if/since even there where the wizards live...
Zibi explained it very well, I'm just giving you alternative versions as they may help you to get a better feel of the phrase.
strzyga
29 Sep 2012
Genealogy / Farther born in Poland and i.m looking for his birth place; Szczoczarz name information [7]
Did he change his name as soon as he settled down in another country? :)
Szczoczarz
Did he change his name as soon as he settled down in another country? :)
strzyga
29 Sep 2012
Language / Polish word "no". Is it a slang word? [22]
There was an old joke about a policeman instructing his colleague that only the uneducated people say "no" while the educated ones use "tak".
The colleague then asks him: "And which one do you use?"
"Tak".
"That means that you're educated?"
"No".
There was an old joke about a policeman instructing his colleague that only the uneducated people say "no" while the educated ones use "tak".
The colleague then asks him: "And which one do you use?"
"Tak".
"That means that you're educated?"
"No".
strzyga
29 Sep 2012
Love / Why don't Polish women treat education seriously for themselves? [130]
Kondzior, how much entry fee do I need to pay to see you with my own eyes? And where exactly are you exhibited?
Women aren't grateful for the rights men granted them not even a century ago. Their lack of respect and reverence for authority, and subsequent recognition solely of raw power, renders them completely unsuitable for civilized discourse. They don't deserve equal anything because they haven't earned it, and they never will.
Kondzior, how much entry fee do I need to pay to see you with my own eyes? And where exactly are you exhibited?
strzyga
30 Sep 2012
News / A new AWS (Poland Solidarity Movement)? [54]
It's true that we badly need a solid, center-right, economically-oriented party whose prime objective would be to facilitate small and medium sized local business, even if just as a counterbalance to PO, but Jaro is the last person to build it. PIS originally had the potential to become this kind of force but since then Kaczyński has managed to drive all intelligent and reasonable members away. Do not kid yourself, this man is a populist nut and given a choice between economic sensibility and hysterical rhetorics he's always going to yield towards the unions and Rydzyk's pensioners. And you might be right to blame him as without him the right center might have a chance to consolidate into something more sensible than the PIS of today. As it is, he's just a destructive force, luring those who might create an intelligent and competent opposition to PO and then throwing them to extreme populist positions.
I could vote for a right-centered, business-oriented party and it could do a hell of a lot of good to PO too if they had to compete with another competent force. But I'm never going to vote for anything led by Kaczyński. Not in this lifetime. And a large part of the 70% probably feel the same.
the only way for PiS to defeat PO is to get non-political experts to prepare a good plan of badly needed reforms and move more to the center. If they keep concentrating on Rydzyk, Tusk will win 3rd time, If that happens, I will never forgive Jaro, It will be all his fault that we will have terrible, anti-Polish government for another 4 years.
It's true that we badly need a solid, center-right, economically-oriented party whose prime objective would be to facilitate small and medium sized local business, even if just as a counterbalance to PO, but Jaro is the last person to build it. PIS originally had the potential to become this kind of force but since then Kaczyński has managed to drive all intelligent and reasonable members away. Do not kid yourself, this man is a populist nut and given a choice between economic sensibility and hysterical rhetorics he's always going to yield towards the unions and Rydzyk's pensioners. And you might be right to blame him as without him the right center might have a chance to consolidate into something more sensible than the PIS of today. As it is, he's just a destructive force, luring those who might create an intelligent and competent opposition to PO and then throwing them to extreme populist positions.
I could vote for a right-centered, business-oriented party and it could do a hell of a lot of good to PO too if they had to compete with another competent force. But I'm never going to vote for anything led by Kaczyński. Not in this lifetime. And a large part of the 70% probably feel the same.
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
Life / Polish vs British vs American - Clash of cultures [390]
English is now obligatory from the age of 6, throughout the elementary and secondary education, and there are optional classes in many preschools too. In secondary schools (both gimnazjum and liceum) it's two languages - English plus another one, most often it's German, French or Spanish. Russian is not so popular nowadays although some schools still have it. So it's English from the age of 6 and then English + another language from the age of 12.
Some elementary schools have another language classes, besides the compulsory English, but it's optional and depends on the school.
prohumanum.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/raport-men-jezyki.pdf
this one is from 2005, and here you have 2010:
test.ore.edu.pl/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&download=387:powszechno-nauczania-jzykw-obcych-w-roku-szkolnym-2009-2010&id=33:raporty
English is now obligatory from the age of 6, throughout the elementary and secondary education, and there are optional classes in many preschools too. In secondary schools (both gimnazjum and liceum) it's two languages - English plus another one, most often it's German, French or Spanish. Russian is not so popular nowadays although some schools still have it. So it's English from the age of 6 and then English + another language from the age of 12.
Some elementary schools have another language classes, besides the compulsory English, but it's optional and depends on the school.
Anybody know or can point to a link showing the No. or % of Polish schools offering English, German, French, Russian and other (Italian, Spanish, Swedish?) foreign languages to pupils?
prohumanum.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/raport-men-jezyki.pdf
this one is from 2005, and here you have 2010:
test.ore.edu.pl/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&download=387:powszechno-nauczania-jzykw-obcych-w-roku-szkolnym-2009-2010&id=33:raporty
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
News / Poland Parliamentary elections 2015 [1060]
A senator. We have a Senate too. But the President is elected directly by the voters, not through any electoral body.
A senator. We have a Senate too. But the President is elected directly by the voters, not through any electoral body.
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
News / Poland Parliamentary elections 2015 [1060]
Do you think it would change anything if the President was elected directly in the States? People know who they're voting for anyway.
Do you think it would change anything if the President was elected directly in the States? People know who they're voting for anyway.
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
News / Piotr Glinski - PIS candidate for PM of Poland [9]
Talk is cheap.
They might as well present their candidate for the President of the US.
100% spot on.
Talk is cheap.
They might as well present their candidate for the President of the US.
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
News / Poland Parliamentary elections 2015 [1060]
Do you mean the polls?
That must mean that some people like the Democratic candidate more, but vote for a Republican senator, and vice versa. Well I suppose that happens - you get the whole package or nothing. There's some logic to it too, certainly it makes life easier for the one who wins.
the popular vote
Do you mean the polls?
In Bush v Gore the ex-vice president won the popular vote yet lost the election I beleive.
That must mean that some people like the Democratic candidate more, but vote for a Republican senator, and vice versa. Well I suppose that happens - you get the whole package or nothing. There's some logic to it too, certainly it makes life easier for the one who wins.
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]
Having a minority government (in coalition with Giertych's party and Lepper's Samoobrona) he pushed towards earlier elections, thinking that PiS would be able to get the parliamentary majority, and lost.
What was that error
Having a minority government (in coalition with Giertych's party and Lepper's Samoobrona) he pushed towards earlier elections, thinking that PiS would be able to get the parliamentary majority, and lost.
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
News / Poland Parliamentary elections 2015 [1060]
Indeed. I've checked upon the electoral procedure and now I see what you mean. Well, with the principles of the American Constitution it doesn't look like it might change anytime soon. Grin and bear it or move to Poland ;)
Indeed. I've checked upon the electoral procedure and now I see what you mean. Well, with the principles of the American Constitution it doesn't look like it might change anytime soon. Grin and bear it or move to Poland ;)
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
News / Poland Parliamentary elections 2015 [1060]
No place is perfect, politically or otherwise. At least you have cheap petrol in the US :)
No place is perfect, politically or otherwise. At least you have cheap petrol in the US :)
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
History / Welcome to Lemmingrad! [59]
Who are these people?
As for lemmingi, that's a buzz term for PO supporters, mostly used on GW fora, which doesn't surprise me a bit as most of Polonius' threads directly reflect the contents of the GW news site for the day.
Andzej Sikora, Mietek Kwiatkowski, Roman Szulc, Ewa Mitra, Ala Wilk, Jan Kozłowski, Krystyna Mazur, Michalina Szewczyk, Andrzej Knot, Andrzej Szczygieł, Anna £abędzka, Kuba Bystrowski, Robert Mastalski, Adrian Knapik
Who are these people?
As for lemmingi, that's a buzz term for PO supporters, mostly used on GW fora, which doesn't surprise me a bit as most of Polonius' threads directly reflect the contents of the GW news site for the day.
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
History / Welcome to Lemmingrad! [59]
is it? Why?
I heard this word for the first time a few weeks ago but since then, it's been like an internet epidemic and it's used to show contempt towards PO voters. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think these are just the criteria for a buzz word.
Buzz term!What a lemming turn of phrase!
is it? Why?
I heard this word for the first time a few weeks ago but since then, it's been like an internet epidemic and it's used to show contempt towards PO voters. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think these are just the criteria for a buzz word.
strzyga
1 Oct 2012
UK, Ireland / Should UK Poles be forced to attend English language courses? [10]
Also, she says she's taking an English course at a college and pays for it herself.
Google Translate can be very treacherous.
Also, she says she's taking an English course at a college and pays for it herself.
Google Translate can be very treacherous.
strzyga
3 Oct 2012
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]
the new KC PZPR headquarters
They're operating in exile now
For more details, ask Polonius
the new KC PZPR headquarters
They're operating in exile now
For more details, ask Polonius
strzyga
4 Oct 2012
Food / What made in Poland produce would you recommend [110]
They do:
Our sphere of activity is not restricted solely to Poland; quite the contrary - ZELMER is known and recognized worldwide for its reliable, aesthetic, world-class quality products. Our goods are exported, among others, to Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Switzerland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltic states, Canada, the USA and Korea.
zelmer.com/zelmer_trading_sp_z_oo/about_us/
Another company that really could do well if they actually tried to export their stuff.
They do:
Our sphere of activity is not restricted solely to Poland; quite the contrary - ZELMER is known and recognized worldwide for its reliable, aesthetic, world-class quality products. Our goods are exported, among others, to Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Switzerland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltic states, Canada, the USA and Korea.
zelmer.com/zelmer_trading_sp_z_oo/about_us/
strzyga
6 Oct 2012
UK, Ireland / Polish in Uk are some of the hardest working and nice people [37]
It's Serbia. As Eastern as they come.
Yugoslavia is Eastern Europe?
It's Serbia. As Eastern as they come.
strzyga
8 Oct 2012
Life / Polish Cartoons/ Legends [15]
there were Polish Muminki too, I like them better than the Japanese cartoon
youtu.be/dIQZgaQcsW4
You want 100% Polish cartoons, and not only with Polish dubbing like Muminki etc.
there were Polish Muminki too, I like them better than the Japanese cartoon
youtu.be/dIQZgaQcsW4
strzyga
9 Oct 2012
Life / Polish cartoons for kids [40]
Dixie, my favourite. Script by Agnieszka Osiecka. I love episode 5 with Smok Belfegor's song.
Dixie, my favourite. Script by Agnieszka Osiecka. I love episode 5 with Smok Belfegor's song.
strzyga
10 Oct 2012
Language / What has been the hardest language for you to learn? [81]
Because, if they both know some Russian, it's much simpler. Ukrainian is not so easy to understand for a Pole. Simple words and phrases, yes, but it's very easy to get lost in a full-blown conversation.
It actually doesn't make sense - why would a Pole and Ukrainian communicate in Russian if the Ukrainian speaks Ukrainian properly?
Because, if they both know some Russian, it's much simpler. Ukrainian is not so easy to understand for a Pole. Simple words and phrases, yes, but it's very easy to get lost in a full-blown conversation.
strzyga
10 Oct 2012
Food / Organic fruit and vegetable - delivery (Warsaw) [33]
Picking by hand doesn't mean that the produce is organic. Pay attention in the spring, that's the time when most insecticides are used. You'll see lots of tractors with small cisterns attached to them - the so-called "opryski". It's done in the early stages of growth, with fruit it's the time when the trees are blooming, and the chemicals are supposed to fully dissolve long before the fruit is picked. Still, I'm not sure if it could be certified as organic.
Any serious producer, selling large quantities of his produce, is bound to use chemicals at some point in the growth cycle. The best bet for organic produce is small, non-commercial or even neglected farms run by people who don't care much and are not going to spend money for insecticides and such. The small sellers in the marketplace, selling from the trunk of a car, or the babcias with a bag of carrots and another one of spinach leaves. If you want organic, avoid large producers.
Another thing is that the soil in the Polish countryside is not so ladden with chemicals as in most Western countries.
I live close to farm land in Warsaw- I have yet to see any chemicals used by farmers. All there stuff is grown organically--they still pick by hand!
Picking by hand doesn't mean that the produce is organic. Pay attention in the spring, that's the time when most insecticides are used. You'll see lots of tractors with small cisterns attached to them - the so-called "opryski". It's done in the early stages of growth, with fruit it's the time when the trees are blooming, and the chemicals are supposed to fully dissolve long before the fruit is picked. Still, I'm not sure if it could be certified as organic.
I've heard one argument that a lot of land is actually organic in Poland, just that the farmers don't have money to apply/comply with certification - or they simply don't see the benefit in doing so.
Any serious producer, selling large quantities of his produce, is bound to use chemicals at some point in the growth cycle. The best bet for organic produce is small, non-commercial or even neglected farms run by people who don't care much and are not going to spend money for insecticides and such. The small sellers in the marketplace, selling from the trunk of a car, or the babcias with a bag of carrots and another one of spinach leaves. If you want organic, avoid large producers.
Another thing is that the soil in the Polish countryside is not so ladden with chemicals as in most Western countries.
strzyga
10 Oct 2012
Language / What has been the hardest language for you to learn? [81]
I said "if they both know some Russian", meaning the generation of Poles who had an 8-year exposure to it in the primary and secondary school. Trying to speak to an Ukrainian, you automatically switch to Russian or whatever you remember of it, as it usually works better than simply speaking Polish.
It is and it probably works both ways but still, you need some exposure time and the situation is not quite symmetrical here, at least with the Western Ukrainians. Many of them have more contact with Polish than Poles do with Ukrainian - I mean, they come here to work or to sell things, there are a lot of Poles and Polish tourists around the Lviv area, they watch Polish TV etc, and as a result, they're more familiar with the Polish language than vice versa. Given the same time of exposure, a Pole would probably pick up Ukrainian with equal ease.
Sure, but wouldn't that require the Pole to also know Russian to a very decent standard?
I said "if they both know some Russian", meaning the generation of Poles who had an 8-year exposure to it in the primary and secondary school. Trying to speak to an Ukrainian, you automatically switch to Russian or whatever you remember of it, as it usually works better than simply speaking Polish.
I know quite a few Ukrainians (living in Ukraine) who learnt Polish very easily - they don't even treat it as a real foreign language because of how similar it is and how easy it is to pick up for them.
It is and it probably works both ways but still, you need some exposure time and the situation is not quite symmetrical here, at least with the Western Ukrainians. Many of them have more contact with Polish than Poles do with Ukrainian - I mean, they come here to work or to sell things, there are a lot of Poles and Polish tourists around the Lviv area, they watch Polish TV etc, and as a result, they're more familiar with the Polish language than vice versa. Given the same time of exposure, a Pole would probably pick up Ukrainian with equal ease.
strzyga
10 Oct 2012
Language / Biernik czy narzędnik (Accusative or Instrumental) [65]
spotykam go or spotykam się z nim
ok
przyjaciół
z przyjaciółmi (that one' a bit irregular)
One thing is that spotykać kogoś and spotykać się z kimś take two different cases - respectively, Acc and Instr.
Another is that negation changes the case into Gen.
widzę stół (Acc) - nie widzę stołu (Gen)
planuję spotkanie (Acc) - nie planuję spotkania (Gen)
jem jabłko (Acc) - nie jem jabłka (Gen)
Planuję spotkanie z Markiem - nie planuję spotkania z Markiem.
In this sentence, the case of "spotkanie" changes from Acc to Gen.
The instrumental "z Markiem" remains the same.
Planuję spotkać się z Markiem - nie planuję spotkać się z Markiem.
Here "spotkać się" is a verb so there's no case change.
1. Kiedy czekam na autobus, czesto spotykam z nim. (Marek).
spotykam go or spotykam się z nim
2. Lubie spotykac sie ze znajomymi i rozmawiac z mini o polityce. (znajomy - liczba mnoga).
ok
3. Marek czesto chodzi do klubu i zawsze spotyka tam przyjacielami. (przyjaciel - liczba mnoga).
przyjaciół
4. Teraz mam czas i szesto spotykam sie z przyjaciolami (przyjaciel - liczba mnoga).
z przyjaciółmi (that one' a bit irregular)
Does it mean that if I plan to meet (in this example), I use verb + instrumental case. If I don't plan to meet I use verb + accusative? I'm puzzled. Can anyone give any examples...
One thing is that spotykać kogoś and spotykać się z kimś take two different cases - respectively, Acc and Instr.
Another is that negation changes the case into Gen.
widzę stół (Acc) - nie widzę stołu (Gen)
planuję spotkanie (Acc) - nie planuję spotkania (Gen)
jem jabłko (Acc) - nie jem jabłka (Gen)
Planuję spotkanie z Markiem - nie planuję spotkania z Markiem.
In this sentence, the case of "spotkanie" changes from Acc to Gen.
The instrumental "z Markiem" remains the same.
Planuję spotkać się z Markiem - nie planuję spotkać się z Markiem.
Here "spotkać się" is a verb so there's no case change.
strzyga
11 Oct 2012
Love / TRAVELLING to Poland - Girl Advice! [29]
You sound a likeable, reasonable guy, you don't come across as arrogant or self-centered, so I see no problem here. And you have something in common - the photography. That's a very good reason to spend some time together. Ask her to show you her work, get her to show you her city, places to take good pictures and so on and you'll both see how you feel in each other's company. There's nothing in your background or ancestry that could be perceived negatively even by very conservative folk here so it all just boils up to your personalities.
You sound a likeable, reasonable guy, you don't come across as arrogant or self-centered, so I see no problem here. And you have something in common - the photography. That's a very good reason to spend some time together. Ask her to show you her work, get her to show you her city, places to take good pictures and so on and you'll both see how you feel in each other's company. There's nothing in your background or ancestry that could be perceived negatively even by very conservative folk here so it all just boils up to your personalities.
strzyga
13 Oct 2012
Genealogy / Common surnames in Poland NOT of Polish origin ? [87]
I've no idea if it's relevant at all, but sap is a type of soil and sapać means to breathe loudly and heavily.
surname Sapko
I've no idea if it's relevant at all, but sap is a type of soil and sapać means to breathe loudly and heavily.
strzyga
13 Oct 2012
Language / Biernik czy narzędnik (Accusative or Instrumental) [65]
Practically none. The first one sounds a little better but the difference is neglectable. Very often there's more than one way to say something in Polish.
a noun
Think: a meeting vs to meet - the same story, a noun and a verb. I'm planning a meeting with Mark vs I'm planning to meet Mark.
what is the different betweenPlanuję spotkanie z Markiem - nie planuję spotkania z Markiem.andPlanuję spotkać się z Markiem - nie planuję spotkać się z Markiem.
Practically none. The first one sounds a little better but the difference is neglectable. Very often there's more than one way to say something in Polish.
I get that spotkac sie is a verb, but what is 'spotkanie/spotkanie' in the first example?
a noun
Think: a meeting vs to meet - the same story, a noun and a verb. I'm planning a meeting with Mark vs I'm planning to meet Mark.
strzyga
13 Oct 2012
Genealogy / trying to verify marriage Malecki/Yarck [4]
Yarck is definitely not a Polish name but it's quite possible that somebody arrived to it trying to write Jarecka phonetically in English.
BTW, the Polish versions of Michael and Ludovica are Michał and Ludwika.
But Ludwika's name, could Jarecka and Yarck be the same?
Yarck is definitely not a Polish name but it's quite possible that somebody arrived to it trying to write Jarecka phonetically in English.
BTW, the Polish versions of Michael and Ludovica are Michał and Ludwika.