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The consequences of a PiS electoral victory


delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
28 Sep 2012 #1
Let's assume that we've walked into our worst nightmare - a PiS victory in an election - and they've formed a viable coalition with Jaroslaw Kaczynski as Prime Minister.

My question is - what would happen next?

I'll stick with Smolensk - it is almost certain that a report blaming Russia and Polish traitors would be released as an official Polish Government position. Russia would undoubtably retailiate with extreme measures - oil/gas supplies would cease, the border crossings would almost certainly grind to a halt combined with other forms of economic warfare. Could Poland hold up in the face of such an attack, and would his government survive if his electorate started dying from the cold?

Revenge would certainly be on their list too - we could expect to see purges in public life, as well as private opponents being hounded.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
28 Sep 2012 #2
(Waits for Polonius to start telling us they're the best thing since sliced chleb) :)
pawian 161 | 9,971
28 Sep 2012 #3
My question is - what would happen next?

The lights would go out. That`s for certain.


strzyga 2 | 993
28 Sep 2012 #4
they've formed a viable coalition

Luckily, that's impossible.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
28 Sep 2012 #5
It's still Poland's rudest word beginning with "K". :)
strzyga 2 | 993
28 Sep 2012 #6
you mean the capital K? :)
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
28 Sep 2012 #7
The lights would go out. That`s for certain.

lol
They would make the day of Lech Kaczynski's death a public holiday, and force school children to march with Kaczynski and PIS banners every Kaczynski day.
pgtx 29 | 3,159
28 Sep 2012 #8
every street would be named after Kaczynski (ex. Kaczynski's Sunset Street) and his statue at every corner.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
29 Sep 2012 #9
you mean the capital K? :)

Koalicja ;)

They would make the day of Lech Kaczynski's death a public holiday, and force school children to march with Kaczynski and PIS banners every Kaczynski day.

They would increase income tax to 60%, so that Polska B's inefficient farmers can carry on ploughing their unprofitable fields, just like in the "good old days" of the PRL.
pawian 161 | 9,971
29 Sep 2012 #10
Hey, that is not funny, show a greater sense of humour than that.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
29 Sep 2012 #11
My question is - what would happen next?

Isn't it obvious that the sky would fall over our heads ?

They would increase income tax to 60%

Yes, because we all know very well that PiS was increasing taxes when they were forming the government and PO gov is known for reducing them :)))
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
29 Sep 2012 #12
Isn't it obvious that the sky would fall over our heads ?

It might very well do if Jarek uses State institutions to take revenge on Russia.

Yes, because we all know very well that PiS was increasing taxes when they were forming the government and PO gov is known for reducing them :)))

Yes, because we all know that the boom times of 2005-2007 can easily be compared to economic crisis of 2008-present.
polonius 54 | 420
29 Sep 2012 #13
An even worse nightmare is a PO re-election...It is quite likely because when a government enjoyinh the support of banksters, gangsters and otehr big-money forces, they will hold on for dear life.... And many ordinary Poles gulled by clever PO propaganda will help make that a reality.

If PiS were to win, then the 4th Republic project could be resumed and the scam artists, conmen, PRL hangovers and other Tusk backers would finally get be swept away. One should build a country or a house not on muck or rubbish but on a clean, strong, transparent foundation.
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
29 Sep 2012 #14
If PiS were to win, then the 4th Republic project could be resumed

That's another consequence. Anyone not with PiS could expect to be hounded out of a job, they could be expected to see their careers ruined by smears and gossip and more. We already saw how much PiS "took over" in 2005 - that's just a small taste of what could be expected if they were ever to win power in a stable way.

The talk of the "4th Republic" is treasonous at best.
polonius 54 | 420
29 Sep 2012 #15
Yes indeed, corrupt politicans, shady businessmen and wheeler-dealer type careers should quake in their boots at the thought of the CBA auditing their financial scams. At present, they enjoy the PO protective umbrella which incldues collaborating courts and indulgent judges that drop charges or pass suspended sentences on wrongdoing biggies.

NorthMancPolak
Sliced bread is horrible becuase it is mega-chameicalised! Becuase the greater number of exposed surfaces maeks it mroe succeptible do mould, bread meant to be commercially sliced contains more preservatives to prevent that. Just shows to go that urban legends are not always true.
milky 13 | 1,657
29 Sep 2012 #16
I'll stick with Smolensk -

Also, the situation of war over Iran, Russia would side with Iran and China and North Korea against the rest. Poland would be under extreme pressure as a go between. PIS would allow the West to use Poland as a position of attack, or something. Could be a strange scenario, gas would be off, for sure.
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
29 Sep 2012 #17
Could be a strange scenario, gas would be off, for sure.

Certainly so.

PO are likely to stay well out of it - there would be absolutely no reason for Poland to get involved one way or another.

PiS on the other hand would be desperately committing forces - that Poland can't afford to be using in wars anyway.
milky 13 | 1,657
29 Sep 2012 #18
there would be absolutely no reason for Poland to get involved one way or another.

Well!! the Missile base was seen by Putin to be an act of war. Perhaps , Poland will not have the option of being neutral, the big players will just walk freely into God's Playground.
jon357 63 | 14,255
29 Sep 2012 #19
More likely the ERussians would just ignore those jokers as they did when they were briefly in office.

the 4th Republic project could be resumed

Which the electorate showed they do not want - nor would it be constitutionally permissible.

we could expect to see purges in public life, as well as private opponents being hounded.

We could expect more mass emigration and political refugees, as in th edays of the PRL.

We could also expect more angry demonstratiions from expat Poles, as we saw when the PiS ex-Premier Marcinkiewicz (with or without his mistress) attended Chatham House in London and had to be smuggled out of the fire door.
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
29 Sep 2012 #20
Poland will not have the option of being neutral, the big players will just walk freely into God's Playground.

I'd believe that - but Germany will have nothing to do with it as well, and the Polish-German alliance has been going from strength to strength in recent years. If Poland says no, Germany will back Poland up all the way.

More likely the ERussians would just ignore those jokers as they did when they were briefly in office.

Would they really ignore a provocation like that, however? Russian politicians aren't really known for being mature and sensible as well...

Which the electorate showed they do not want - nor would it be constitutionally permissible.

We all know that Jaroslaw Kaczynski regards the Constitution as something to be ignored freely.

We could expect more mass emigration and political refugees, as in th edays of the PRL.

Indeed. If it was anything similar to today's Hungary, I'd be headed straight out.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
29 Sep 2012 #21
Just shows to go that urban legends are not always true.

That's the whole point - it's an idiom which is actually hyperbolic. You're not supposed to take it literally.

Someone who uses so much hyperbole in his posts should know this.

Then again, you should know why we don't think PiS are good for Poland, but you don't.
milky 13 | 1,657
29 Sep 2012 #22
but Germany will have nothing to do with it

The US has 227 army bases in Germany so they would have to expel them. This could not happen,
youtube.com/watch?v=irkTtj0krWI
there maybe a pipeline deal, but the Americans still have the Germans by the balls, in a military sense.


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