Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Shame tactics are generally associated with feminine traits. This type of ad hominem is less prevalent among males who would rather rely on logic to demolish the arguments presented against him. There's no honor to be gained in discrediting your opponent through personal attacks, which is complete fail.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


The very idea you have no idea how a males should be rised already says a lot.

Look at the conception of the renaissance men, also known as Polymath:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymath

Drop off? You bet.

Besides, you don't think the image of masculinity has been nearly obliterated in our media? When all our 'tough' guys have been reduced to effeminate pretty boys? When every action movie is meant to gather to women more then men?


So what on Earth IS the cause??

It has nothing to do with the emancipation of women and everything to do with the suppression of patrist values such as truth (it's more important to be politically corrected then to learn facts), authority (discipline is outlawed and considered abusive), respect for tradition (progressive thinking overthrows established logic, avant-garde and the worship of originality destroys art), competition (contact sports frowned upon and sometimes outright banned, cooperation valued more then critical thinking and individuality), idealism and status (materialism takes over the fulfillments of roles. People go to schools not because they want to become doctors, or programmers, they go to schools to get jobs and make money. Greed becomes the only form of fulfillment), and so on and so forth.

Ho, BTW:

cosmicvariance.com/2006/06/01/feminism-destroying-the-planet
LOL


Yes, we already discussed this, and I completly demolished your argument. Your timid withdrawal right now suggests that you remmember is now, no wonder you don't want to go back to it.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


But really, our society is so much more evolved now. Political correctness, relativism, popular culture, the feminization of schools (nothing like trying to turn boys into girls and then still tell them to go kill people when we invade other countries), the effeminization of our society, and the complete and utter degeneration of our values, the loss of shame, the perversion of love, communal insanity, corporal greed, social delusions, the destruction of family unity, the inability to discipline our children, the constant degradation of education, selfish individualism, lack of civil conduct, the dumping down of our arts, and so on and so forth ad nauseum. And why? So we can live with this illusion of fairness, and i say illusion because let's face it, men still rape women, racism still runs rampant, and discrimination is all over the map. Where's the improvement?

I don't want to back-pedal, i don't want women to stay home, i just want acceptance that many of the values inherent in a patriarchy are fundamental to a healthy society and that as long as we engage in demasculization has a form of rejection for some imagined tyrannical and willful oppression of women we are going to spiral towards social deconstruction.


Are you pulling my chain? If you have new arguments and want to discuss futher the obiective existence of values and morality, let's revive that old thread. I dont want to copy its contens here.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Up until very recently, western civilization was a healthy, flourishing society. Sure, there were some rough edges, but we definitely had a good ride.

This seems to be no longer the case. I personally blame it on a cultural decline which might eventually result to our very demise. Many civilizations have fallen before, there is no reason to believe the west as we know it's going to last forever. The anti-patriarchal tendencies of today are just the tip of the iceberg.

The rationale behind this assumption is my personal belief a society can only flourish when there is a balance between both patriarchal and matriarchal values. Yes, this means i believe western society has always been partially matriarchal and which is why i'm so adamant in rejecting this notion of this alleged 'extreme' oppression of women.

A completely patriarchal society is not an healthy society and i don't believe progress is possible in such a civilization (once again, think of Islam).


What we need of course is some of the things us sexists always yammer about: a patriarchal family structure with a good emphasis on values and morals (you know, those things lefists cannot understand because of their inability to think conceptually. See, lefists actually believe those things aren't real, it's just the stuff of dreams or worst yet empty conservative rhetoric). Alan Keyes makes the same point in many of his speeches, but his voice remains unheard, the same as all of us.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]

The function of men is to provide the environment and the means by which women can nurture the race. In order to do this efficiently women need to be kept out of the way because they have a tendency to mess things up. That's all there is to it. The irony is that everything men do is meant to benefit women. Civilization itself is product of the masculine instinct to provide for females. Thus, keeping females out of the activities of males was actually to the benefit of women more then it was to men, who carried all the responsibilities, and did all of the work. Feminism just twisted the whole thing around and actually convinced women they were being "oppressed" and kept out of "fulfilling" corporate careers and dangerous military ventures just out of spite, because men are just evil like that. Riiiiiight...

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]

Well:

fathersforlife.org/articles/report/resptojw.htm

It's a good thing that the fact women are far more likely to kill their children then men is an hidden statistic or we'd have to suffer through the barrage of faux-psychologists telling us why infanticide is a necessary and even positive evolutionary strategy to improve society while arguing that women who kill their children are victim of circumstances and should be pitied, not condemned, even though that contradicts the previous assertion of infanticide being a natural strategy. Feminism and logical consistency just don't mix very well.

Life / Bribery and corruption 'fact of life' in Poland? [152]

The USA talks about freedom all the time but its one of the most insanely controlled, spartan societies you'll ever meet. Its not a question of accepting corruption, its a question of taking into account that people are human beings, and there is a certain elasticity between following rules and allowing a bit room for common sense or even, on occasion, individual whims. When you are pulled over by an Polish cop for instance, it feels like you are dealing with a human being. He may ticket you, he may warn you, or he may even let you go. The decision is up entirely to his own judgement and personal conscience. In the USA, when you are pulled over by a cop, it feels like you are dealing with a cyborg. He has no human conscience, and the rule of law is simply part of his programming. This type of rigidity creates an atmosphere that is almost suffocating. Americans live in a fenced in society. The home is a sort of sanctuary, the only place where they can feel free and unobserved (to the point of excess), as long as they keep the door shut and the windows covered. The moment they step out its like they are in a prison courtyard. When you see a Pole walking down the street, its like he owns the place, and you'll rarely find them confined within the privacy of their homes.

I'm not sure of course whether the excessive level of corruption in government and anywhere else is merely a consequence of having this type of freedom. I have spoken with Poless who have been living in the USA during the 60s and 70s, and they tell me in those days Americans experienced a lot more freedom, and people acted more like human beings, much like the Poles do today.

History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]

Ther would be the Great Republic of Poland.

News / Homosexual lobby steps up infiltration in Poland [110]


Being a real Christian means rejecting every modern paradigm with all your being and all your soul. Modernism is the enemy of tradition, and by extension its mandate is "satanic" in the real sense of the word (the word satan means to "obstruct" and "oppose", in this case to obstruct tradition and oppose truth). There is no compromise here.

Here, read, and learn:

tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_World.pdf

Citizen67 should read this also, if anything because it contains a very scathing critique of Protestantism and Guenon's idea that the only hope for a restoration of a purely western tradition lies in the Catholic Church, if anything because Catholicism has survived more or less intact, at least in form if not in practice, the latter being easy to fix once the tradition has been restored.

News / Homosexual lobby steps up infiltration in Poland [110]


The fact they cannot see God doesn't mean God doesn't see them. The argument of secular individualists isn't going to convince anyone who believes in an higher power and higher morality.

News / Homosexual lobby steps up infiltration in Poland [110]

The problem with the librul stance on homosexuality is not so much that they want to right the various grievances often heaped upon homosexuals (many of which are perfectly justified) for something most homosexuals have no hope to correct, realistically speaking. The problem is that the way libruls go about doing this is by declaring that homosexuality is "correct" as well, which is not only false, but also dangerous in the long run.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Have you read the Federalist Papers?

Is it you who doesn't understand what a militia is? Or the Founding Fathers?

A militia used to mean every able bodied man capable of bearing arms. It got changed into a term for terrorists by Bill Clinton. So Bill Clinton redefined the word, then pointed out the Constitution wasn't in line with his redefinition. Sort of like the country being founded as a Republic and then converted ad hoc into a "democrassy," formerly called an inferior form of government for fools.

What does "well regulated" mean? It used to mean, as well equipped as possible. That means the Founding Fathers believed that the militia should be the most formidable military in the United States, far more powerful than the government.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Explain the one thing to me please. In America all you have to do to retract the right to bear arms is hold a Constitutional Convention and strike the right off the Bill of Rights with an amendment. Why don't gun grabbing psychopaths do this instead of incrementally sneaking in regulations over the years until they can impose their will on others and disarm them without a convention as the Constitution describes?

As I understand, it is because if they put it to people that way, nobody but Europeans would be dumb enough to surrender their arms. All gun grabbers are neurotic sociopaths and control freaks who want to disarm people so they can assf*ck them and then have somebody else shoot them dead. The only way to get people to lower their guard is through incrementalism. If you just came out and said, "I want to assf*ck you all," it would be obvious you were sick and nobody would listen to you. So sociopaths talk about the common good and the public's need to be disarmed so they can be assf*cked at will and introduce these measures gradually so as to arrive at their assf*cking goals in the long term without arousing too much suspicion. It's all part of the assf*cking continuum of politics within the global marxist postmodernist framework, which all comes down to making people totally helpless so you can dominate them utterly and then assf*ck them. Guns in private hands stand in the way of the assf*cking imperative.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

Well, the opinion of Jew status in Eastern Europe comes from watching pop culture movies e.g. Fiddler on the Roof and A Serious Man.

Polish jews were never peasants. Simply because they couldnt/had difficulties owning land. Thus they were burghers and merchants mainly, ranging from big bankers to small time artisans. Since christians were forbidden to loan money with interest jews did this (or moors in Spain). Since Commonwealth of Poland and Lithuania glorified rural life and elite of the nation was rural jews made up up to 80% of some cities.

Secondly jews were usually educated people: could read and write. This is the influence of their religion.

Simply speaking jews were always merchants and artisans, they had an advantage of tradition over their christian counterparts. Besides since they had not their country they maintained connections with each other as diaspora - thus creating a network of contacts. Needed to trade with another city? Why, here is Your friendly neighborhood jew who knows another jew right there. For a meager price he can help You...

Life / Don't Forget: Tomorrow, March 8 is Women's Day in Poland! [115]


The really funny thing is that crimes against women, particularly sexual assault, were once only a tiny fraction of what they are today. In the old days when women *were* put on pedestal (why shouldn't they be, they are the backbone of society) when somebody committed rape they had better pray the law got to them before that woman's husband, father or brother did. In Poland they would end up hacked to pieces with sabres. In Texas it was quite common for a man to get blown away in public at point blank range for simply insulting or fondling a female on the street by the relatives and the courts were likely to let that man walk every time.

After the Civil War, the North basically made gang rape legal in the south for their enrichment squads and this was the first time in about a thousand years that European males got a system of government that actually forced them to grin and bear it when their women were assaulted. Normally such males had a very short life expectancy - nowadays its a career choice and often a successful social strategy to go around date raping. Feminism has never done anything but strip women of all human dignity in all regards - and it has resulted in a dysgenic strain of males flourishing.

Let people follow their natural human instincts and I expect rapists would once again start to lose in the genetic sweepstakes. Unfortunately the government forces us all to swallow improvementation and enrichment now at gunpoint.

Life / Don't Forget: Tomorrow, March 8 is Women's Day in Poland! [115]

As I said, suffrage was a mistake.

She subjectively spins out inside in her own brain and ends up curled inside her own belly-button in a self-referencing circular logic tornado of cognitive death.

Remember, women loved Hitler. Why shouldn't they? He had good teeth, spoke with self-confidence and acted like he knew what he was doing. He was Clinton except with a better dress sense. That's all you need to get the girls voting for you. Lots of men thought the guy was a bad idea in the way that only guys (and not many) can see another dude may have a lot of self-confidence but is basically full of crap. Act like a real stud (aka Obama) and it doesn't matter if you have no idea what the f**k you are doing, the females will flock to pull a lever for you. They are witless that way. It's all about impressions with women, not about the reality.

Studies show that schools of fish will invariably follow a fish who has had the inhibitory portion of his brain sliced out with a scalpel. The other fish figure he acts really confident like he knows where he is going so they all follow him dutifully right into the mouth of a shark.

Witness the current bailout, which is perfect female management of the problem. It doesn't matter if the bailout is insane and contravenes the laws of economics, the important thing is that it gives us an excuse to do something and give the impression things are going to get better. Most women figure that's really all that is needed is adjusting how we "feel" about the prospects of baby eating and other upcoming American contact sports.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

What "terrible past"? Without Poland, jews would be mere shadow if their contemporary selves.

Since jews faced persecution in western Europe and Commonwealth offered them rights (first coming from XIII century!) and freedom of religion (since XVI century any and all religions were tolerated, and even before then persecution was unheard of) they fled there en masse, creating the biggest and most influential community ever (not counting USA). There were millions of them, they were merchants, artists, soldiers and even some rose to held titles and become aristocracy!

The unfortunate demise of the Commonwealth in XVIII century came too late to change anything. Jews already were strong, educated, living in cities and quite affluent too. And its those jews that created the elites of jewish community later. Dont believe me? When Kneset voted what official language of Israel is going to be Polish lost by few votes, current president of Israel was born in Poland as were some of his predecessors.

I do not know anything about Russian jews other than that they were brutally persecuted in XIX century (word 'pogrom' originates from then), but I can bet that they were not jews from western Europe as Polish ones but Khazars - Khazars adopted judaism and probably migrated or were conquered by Russia.

Life / Don't Forget: Tomorrow, March 8 is Women's Day in Poland! [115]


Another problem is that a lot of men have that Victorian sense of duty and obedience that sees them loyally marching to their doom. If a liberal Supreme Court rules 5-4 on an issue once, the next time it will be 8-1 or so, because conservatives readily accept liberal ideas and have a strong sense of following precedence, but never vice versa. One's the fast forward button, and the other is the pause button. There is no rewind.

This ultimately damns any Nordish nation with a typically high respect towards law. Authority is still given its traditional reverence, but people in those positions are no longer the same. What you end up with is a nation not only falling apart, but tearing itself apart due to its ideals being perverted. Nations like Japan or China, that rely heavily on social taboos, Confucian style honor, and large social networks over simply the word of law, tend to be more resistant to globalization and decadence.

We would call it corruption. They call it the traditional way of doing things. Though it's not absolutism, it's not exactly savage relativism either, and it works. Western attempts to expect immigrants to behave the same are folly.

I dislike the insane policies that women seem to relish, but the politically correct jackboots are always worn by men. It's the consequence of a population that feels more comfortable as slaves than free. The mass has arguably been this way forever, but it has now infected the minds of the elite.

Life / Don't Forget: Tomorrow, March 8 is Women's Day in Poland! [115]


The female mind explained:

blip.tv/commando-11-digital-motion-pictures/vagina-vocational-centers-114780

This inability for most women to think in abstractions is what makes them so malleable and easily manipulated. Women are essentially the ultimate useful idiots. They do not live in the world of ideas and concepts, they cannot read "between the lines", the way they process information is through their emotions. This is why it is essential for a society to be ruled by a patriarchal order because civilized societies are run by hard concepts and ideas. Only savages live by the whims of their instincts and emotions.

Let's say you have a country, and you want to defend it's borders in order to secure the national identity of your people. This is a pretty straight forward concept, but it offers no emotional leg for a woman to latch on. On the other end, concepts like open immigration and multiculturalism are loaded with emotional significance. It would be very easy for any group of people who wanted to undermine the national identity of your country for their own benefit to push certain emotional leaded policies when 50% of your voter base is made of individuals who can understand things only from an emotional point of view.

Life / Don't Forget: Tomorrow, March 8 is Women's Day in Poland! [115]

Men and women are different, but one dares not assert that in modern times for fear of being labelled sexist (which is one of those absurdities those types of people fail to see, btw). Men are generally solutions oriented while women are generally experience oriented. That's why when a man sees a problem, his reflex is to figure out the solution. He doesn't give a damn why it happened, unless the understanding of "why" is necessary to logically determine root cause.

Voltaire said women lack the capacity to understand genuine absurdity and for this reason cannot appreciate the humor in a situation that emerges from self-knowledge.

Another reason that suffrage was a mistake. A person who cannot recognize absurdity (for example, worshipping Obama as a Messiah) will always be a pawn for those who know how to present their case, even if their position has no merits outside of testimonials

News / Do Poles in Poland really feel betrayed because there won't be any US Shield? [288]


However Obama making fun of Poland, giving us the launcher without amno, to play with for couple of months, before sending it back to unkle sam (with real rockets you'd hurt yourself, Poles) have been the last drop that made me start to see USA for what it really is.

History / "Westerner's" most ridiculous beliefs about the time of communism in Poland [73]

Communism was designed to undermine and destroy western society but was adopted by those who hated the west as well, since most outside nations only understood communism as a form of rebellion against the west, they didn't grasp that it was a mechanism for destroying nations. Thus, most communist countries ended up committing national suicide, and i'm not even sure how many of them understood just how it happened.

Feedback / Why are threads deleted or send off topic list? [60]

Merged: Deleted thread. What librul mod could got angry? (I was extra cautions)

Just out of curiosity, what have I said was deemed so offensive to get the thread deleted? I was being extra cautious to not get offensive in any way, you know.

Come on, do speak up, dont be afraid librul. If I dont know what you find so offensive, I cannot avoid it in the future. Some realy inane nonsense have been tolerated (like snake people), but when I think I am being almost civil, the thread gets deleted. I am confusion.

News / Czechs most liked by Poles! [35]

Honestly, I think more people are disillusioned by the way the US is headed rather than having any dislike for it.

The US had a great start, brilliant progressive ideas and high ideals to which it aspired. Alas, these days that American dream seems very far away and at times it even seems to have turned into the American Nightmare.

Between a greedy and callous power-elite and a culture that almost seems to revel in ignorance things aren't going too well. Add to that the arrogant and ill-considered approach to foreign policy that has been the hallmark of american governments in the last couple of decades.

To give one example - take the bin Laden case. A criminal mastermind is assassinated in a mission based on intel gained through torture... and people are in the streets celebrating this and there are headlines like "Rot in Hell". What about democracy, where's the dignity, the self-scrutiny?

Life / Stop buying contraband in Poland! Really? [24]


No.
illegal =! immoral

Law is made by people, it may by right or wrong. Law is just a set of codified norms based on numerous factors, some of which may be outdated or passed with wrong/malicious intent.

I would not buy stolen goods, under no condition. That would be immoral. But contraband? Come on, only policemen or custom officers, and other such perverts, consider it a crime.

News / Incredible news from Poland - The president shaved his moustache! [83]

Modern science in general, has regressed under the cultural dominance of extra-special "scientist" until it is essentially no better or worse than 16th century spiritualism and ghost-hunting. Not better, not worse, just different. Most of the progress seen in the 19th and early part of the 20th century has been lost and mankind has begun to go backwards in most sciences.

This is a normal part of declining civilizations and is a classic part of the cycle of fail that leads them back to bondage and slavery in the simplest possible big-monkey-gets-the-coconuts feudalism.

Black holes and dark matter are no different and no more reasonable than the phlogiston of thaumaturgy or spontaneous vivogenesis eruption of maggots in decaying meat. Not one bit more sophisticated and both ideas have in common that they are in defiance of simple and straightforward observation.

It's about getting paid.

Nothing else. It's about drawing down a paycheck.

It's the level of complexity in the con, which like Bernie Madoff's scheme was mindbogglingly confusing and complicated.

News / Incredible news from Poland - The president shaved his moustache! [83]

There is no gravity. What you have been raised to believe since infancy doesn't exist. There are magnetic fields and charged attraction and repulsion.

What you call gravity is static attraction identical to that you can see in a dry climate by charging a comb to pick up balls of styrofoam, except this is millions and trillions of times more powerful. Orbital math works because it has nothing to do with gravity but with attraction.

Can I ask you a simple question?

If gravity is a force that holds our moon in orbit, how come the attraction exhibited by a refrigerator magnet is more powerful? If "gravity" is what "pulls" the moon towards us, then how in the **** can it fail to pull the magnet off the refrigerator?

Really open your mind (not lefist "open mind") and think about it.

While you're howling with derision (I did the first time I heard it) I've got some very bad news for you. All your existing paradigms are rubbish. Everything else you have ever been taught is kosher baloney. It's about getting paid and nothing else. It beats the hell out of mopping floors, which is what most scientific types are really qualified to do as human beings and not much else.

Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

A way to evade my question, isn't it?

This something Lefists can't understand, once you demolished the fundaments of natural order you can't make the house stand by supporting its collapsing walls. In system where morality is decided by popopular vote the side with more money and better propagand machine will always win. Leave the Babylon before it will crush on your head.

Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

Honestly, how would anyone know if families pressured their old parents into suicide? The state doesn't give a damn, it's legal, the kids aren't going to tell, and some senile old man about to die won't be able to. It is clear that the Dutch combat crime by simply legalizing it, thus it is no longer a problem. This is what communism leads to.

Life / News on driving in Poland [57]

Have you ever tried to drive from Bielsko-Biala to Katowice?
Before you pass Czechowice-Dziedzice, it is more like every 2 minutes.