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Homosexual lobby steps up infiltration in Poland


polonius 54 | 420
1 Apr 2013  #1
Newsweek.pl quoted actress Joanna Szczepkowska as saying in an interview that homosexuals promote their own kind and sidestep others or throw them out of the game. "Heterosexuals do not meet up on the basis of their orientation, but homosexuals do. If you're not homosexual you won't get invited, or at least you won't get invited to certain gatherings, hence you do not belong to the inner-circle. That's the impression one gets, but you can't even ask if it's true. If you do you become a homophobe." Daily Rzeczpospolita recently reported the LGBT lobby launching an assault on school textbooks by demanding that they promote 'alternative households', with the Education Ministry succumbing to the pressure. Scholars who believe a mother, father and children constitute a family have been quietly eliminated and are no longer invited by the ministry to review textbooks.
kondzior 9 | 948
2 Apr 2013  #2
The problem with the librul stance on homosexuality is not so much that they want to right the various grievances often heaped upon homosexuals (many of which are perfectly justified) for something most homosexuals have no hope to correct, realistically speaking. The problem is that the way libruls go about doing this is by declaring that homosexuality is "correct" as well, which is not only false, but also dangerous in the long run.
bluesfan - | 85
2 Apr 2013  #3
The problem is that the way libruls go about doing this is by declaring that homosexuality is "correct" as well, which is not only false, but also dangerous in the long run.

No Kondzior, 'Liberals' or 'normal people' as I like to term them, realise that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.
It is not Liberal thinking to demand that homosexuality is 'correct' and heterosexuality is 'wrong'.
We 'Liberals' or 'normal people' realise that a person's sexuality is their business. We are all equal and make our own choices in life.

But this ignorance and prejudice against homosexuals in the 21st Century is very saddening and has to end.
Hope all 'non-liberals' will grow up and accept this. :)
kondzior 9 | 948
2 Apr 2013  #4
a person's sexuality is their business. We are all equal and make our own choices in life.

The fact they cannot see God doesn't mean God doesn't see them. The argument of secular individualists isn't going to convince anyone who believes in an higher power and higher morality.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
2 Apr 2013  #5
Good.

I'm affraid +90% of people do not agree with you. What's now ? Bigots all ? What about "democracy" ?

We 'Liberals' or 'normal people' realise that a person's sexuality is their business.

So why do you want the homosexual thingy being promoted even in school books?
kondzior 9 | 948
2 Apr 2013  #6
since I don't force you to live by my secular standards why do you put God in here?

Being a real Christian means rejecting every modern paradigm with all your being and all your soul. Modernism is the enemy of tradition, and by extension its mandate is "satanic" in the real sense of the word (the word satan means to "obstruct" and "oppose", in this case to obstruct tradition and oppose truth). There is no compromise here.

Here, read, and learn:

tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_World.pdf

Citizen67 should read this also, if anything because it contains a very scathing critique of Protestantism and Guenon's idea that the only hope for a restoration of a purely western tradition lies in the Catholic Church, if anything because Catholicism has survived more or less intact, at least in form if not in practice, the latter being easy to fix once the tradition has been restored.
bluesfan - | 85
2 Apr 2013  #7
So why do you want the homo thingy being promoted even in school books?

Why does it offend you so much that it is?

Do you not wish for your children to be brought up more educated and tolerant than you were?

I'm affraid +90% of people do not agree with you. What's now ? Bigots all ? What about "democracy" ?

Tolerance and democracy are two different things.
Where do you get this 90% from. Link your source or stop making up figures...
Ironside 48 | 9,790
2 Apr 2013  #8
Sure, all that info is not a news. The qestion is who is promoting that kind of propaganda. As they say - who is behind that?

In fact they are not liberal or tolerant at all.
Excluding experts that are opposed to one correct view. It Has as much to do with tolerance and liberalism as gas chambers with showers.
Given the fact homosexuals are decisive minority in a society is beyond debate that forcing views on children of majority is brazen trickery and has noting to do with such key words like tolerance, democracy, liberalism, progress - often used in that context .

Correct words to describe process of implanting those radical views on unsuspected majority would be - discrimination, oligarchy,totalitarianism, revolution.
poland_
2 Apr 2013  #9
" Daily Rzeczpospolita recently reported the LGBT lobby launching an assault on school textbooks by demanding that they promote 'alternative households', with the Education Ministry succumbing to the pressure. Scholars who believe a mother, father and children constitute a family have been quietly eliminated and are no longer invited by the ministry to review textbooks.

Polish constitution

Article 18 - Marriage, being a union of a man and a woman, as well as the family, motherhood and parenthood, shall be placed under the protection and care of the Republic of Poland.

If the Daily Rzeczpospolita is correct then the Education Ministry would be going against the Articles. of the Polish constitution.
Lenka 3 | 1,545
2 Apr 2013  #10
If they mention marriage- yes. But not if the books will just show homesexuals and don't mention marriage.
Polson 5 | 1,771
2 Apr 2013  #11
I'd like to know more about these 'alternative households'.
I'd like to know more about this Joanna lady.
I'd like to know more about this recent Daily Rzeczpospolita report.
poland_
2 Apr 2013  #12
But not if the books will just show homesexuals and don't mention marriage.

To many it will still be homosexual propaganda, if Polish schools are going to teach under the banner of ' equality' not alternative lifestyles it would be met with less resistance.
Meathead 5 | 470
2 Apr 2013  #13
Being a real Christian means rejecting every modern paradigm with all your being and all your soul. Modernism is the enemy of tradition, and by extension its mandate is "satanic" in the real sense of the word (the word satan means to "obstruct" and "oppose", in this case to obstruct tradition and oppose truth). There is no compromise here.

Complete nonsense, from someone who obviously hasn't read the Christian Bible. Being a real Christian means not judging your neighbor's behavior. Roman Catholicism, worship the man ignore the word.

Now I like Poland even more ;-) OK, I don't think that men should have more rights to a job than women.

If you like it so much you should move there.
4 eigner 2 | 831
2 Apr 2013  #14
If you like it so much you should move there

I've already been there and I liked it. Many nice, family oriented people and not quite as many commies as here nowadays. Now to you MH, who are you to tell me to move, huh? I served this country longer than you're alive and if anyone should leave then it's you and people like you.
legend 3 | 664
2 Apr 2013  #15
Complete nonsense, from someone who obviously hasn't read the Christian Bible. Being a real Christian means not judging your neighbor's behavior. Roman Catholicism, worship the man ignore the word.

Yes yes lets trust a Protestant Heretic who continues to repeat hundred year old myths.
4 eigner 2 | 831
2 Apr 2013  #16
Protestant

he doesn't sound like it, he sounds more like an atheist and a left winger anyway.
smurf 39 | 1,982
2 Apr 2013  #17
Heterosexuals do not meet up on the basis of their orientation

Never been to a nightclub?

homosexuality is "correct" as well

documented proof of gay tendencies among animals, man being an animal it would mean that gay behaviour is, in fact, correct....along with hetrosexual behaviour.

they cannot see God

What doesn't exist cannot be seen.

real Christian means rejecting every modern paradigm with all your being and all your soul

Good luck with that, do you like your mobile phone, the Internet, your car, electricity?
jasondmzk
2 Apr 2013  #18
I'm sorry, I thought the gay marriage thing was voluntary. The only reason to sweat it is if it were mandatory. Are you worried you're going to be forced to gay marry Barack Obama in Kenya?
poland_
2 Apr 2013  #19
The fact they cannot see God doesn't mean God doesn't see them.

kondzior, this is the point when all pro -religious people lose, non - religious people do not give two hoots about who is watching them. In every persons heart there are two wolves fighting ' love' and 'hate' which ever one you feed the most will win. If homosexuals are intent on making the arts and education sexuality based, then the culprits should be exposed, time for some budding undercover journalists to make a name for themselves exposing bigots.
jasondmzk
2 Apr 2013  #20
If homosexuals are intent on making the arts and education sexuality based, then the culprits should be exposed, time for some budding undercover journalists to make a name for themselves exposing bigots.

You guys... You know, it's the same every time. You think the only people that fight for equality are those whom specifically have their rights withheld. You don't think of the whites that marched with blacks, or the men whom fought alongside women for their right to vote. I'm not gay, or as you backwards-types call it so feverishly, "homosexual". I still vote and act with their rights in mind.
Ironside 48 | 9,790
2 Apr 2013  #21
I still vote and act with their rights in mind.

What rights?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
2 Apr 2013  #22
Have you ever wondered why +90% of the world think that the whole concept behind "gay rights" and all this stuff is seriously fecked up ?
bluesfan - | 85
2 Apr 2013  #23
Lack of education? Intolerance? Maybe ignorance? Maybe some people are sexually repressed? What is your excuse?
Can you provide a source for this 90% figure?
jasondmzk
2 Apr 2013  #24
Have you ever wondered why +90% of the world think that the whole concept behind "gay rights" and all this stuff is seriously fecked up ?

No. What's to wonder? Two-thirds of the planet is poorer than most of us can conceive, and even more are dumber than a rock. Only a few of us could identify with what people whom have no resources, education, or self-initiative think like, Gregorz. Apparently you don't have any difficulties with that at all.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
2 Apr 2013  #25
So apparently you're just a xenophobe, who thinks that claiming special privileges for gays makes you a part of the elite, those few enlightened with education and so on.
bluesfan - | 85
2 Apr 2013  #26
So apparently you're just a xenophobe

I think that 'homophobe' would be a better label...
Ironside 48 | 9,790
2 Apr 2013  #27
No. What's to wonder? Two-thirds of the planet is poorer than most of us can conceive, and even more are dumber than a rock. Only a few of us could identify with what people whom have no resources, education, or self-initiative think like, Gregorz. Apparently you don't have any difficulties with that at all.

I just wonder what are you taking about. My guess is you are talking about feelings. Am I right?
However you cannot legislate feelings.
poland_
2 Apr 2013  #28
You guys... You know, it's the same every time. You think the only people that fight for equality are those whom specifically have their rights withheld. You don't think of the whites that marched with blacks, or the men whom fought alongside women for their right to vote. I'm not gay, or as you backwards-types call it so feverishly, "homosexual". I still vote and act with their rights in mind.

Tradition is the bedrock of the family, Christian or Jewish.

I'm not gay, or as you backwards-types call it so feverishly, "homosexual".

Your religion allows gays to marry in a synagogue.

Back on topic, the thread to my understanding is about inequality, if Joanna Szczepkowska statement is correct and the " Daily Rzeczpospolita ' has any credibility then there is serious basis for investigation into the arts and education ministry promoting inequality and bigotry.

backwards-types

Regarding your comment of backwards-types, if you are referring to pro -religious people then it is a derogatory statement and against the posting guidelines.
jasondmzk
2 Apr 2013  #29
thinks that claiming special privileges for guys who stick their dicks in each other anus makes you a part of the elite, those few enlightened with education and so on.

1st, you're a coarse and grotesque parody of a troll. But that's your thing. "Yawn", as you would say (ad nauseum). 2nd; there's also lesbians. 3rd; what "special privileges"? I think they should get the exact same privileges as people that are compelled to "stick" different things differently.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
2 Apr 2013  #30
1st, you're a coarse and grotesque parody of a troll.

I guess that's the approach to discussion of those few enlightened, educated and with resources. Interesting.


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