Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal

Indeed, and the borders had not yet changed during the period that Czerniachowski was terrorising the AK so yes, they were Poles in Poland.

As I say, do try to stick to things you know about.

At least that will keep your posts brief.

Wrong as usual and once again showing everyone you don't know what you are talking about because you can't back anything up with actual facts.

When did your Soviet/Ukrainian/PRL/Anglo hero Ivan Chernyakhovsky carry out his arrests of Polish anti-Nazi resistance in Vilnius? 17 July 1944.

In which country was the Lithuanian city of Vilnius located in 1944? Lithuania!

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Or in fact right.

His crimes took place in illegally occupied Poland. Did you think Poland was anywhere other than Poland in 1944 or that the occupiers were legitimate?

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As I say, stick to things you know about. Frantic googling is not always your friend.

The Lithuanians were illegitimate occupiers of a Lithuanian city?

What can you tell the forum about the Vilnius dispute?

How long did it last, who were the participants, and why Vilnius has remained in Lithuania ever since 1939?

Don't try to be obtuse. It makes you look even foolish than you are already, if that's even possible.

As you know, Poland, including Wilno, were occupied by Germany and the Soviet Union.

Perhaps you should have paid more attention in history lessons instead of playing with yourself under the desk.


Which you'd never heard of until you just googled it...

You need to simply answer each of my questions rather than being rattled by them.


Quit projecting. You never heard about the Vilnius dispute until you frantically googled it.

That's why you wrongly claimed earlier that Vilnius was always inside Poland in 1944 when that simply isn't historically correct.

Rattled?

I'm sitting back grinning here!

As is anyone reading this...

This is fun


Feel free to pretend that. Everyone else knows you lost face badly.

So badly that you have to pretend that the occupation of Poland was legitimate!

Wrong, wrong, wrong and still projecting.

You not only stepped in your own muck but slipped and fell down face first in it.


If Lithuania knew Vilnius being returned to them was illegitimate then why didn't they settle their long running dispute with Poland and let Poland have it?

Why hasn't Poland ever demanded and gotten it back if Lithuania had no legitimate claim to it?

Feel free to look-up the answers online because you don't have a clue about what you are talking about.

Dig deeper, bieggers.

This is getting funnier and funnier every time you get it wrong and flounder in an even more Billy Bunterish way.... You naughty boy, you...

People are laughing as you misunderstand it even further.

Since you've admitted that you support the position of the Soviet occupiers, perhaps we can assume that you support the German position too...

Well since you pretend to know everything about Poland then by all means explain yourself.

Hahaha.

The boy who thought Poles in 1949 Wilno were 'polonia' and not Poles at home in Poland.

What next, Cherry, are you going to pretend that Gdynia was in Germany?

Nervous laughter from you can only be expected.

You are evading rather than answering and making more and more blunders as you do so.


1949? What are you talking about? Vilnius was in Lithuania in 1949 but we are discussing 1944 when Vilnius was still in Lithuania.

Chernyakhovsky (your hero and the topic of this conversation) began arresting the Polish resistance in 1944 in Vilnius, Lithuania. He was killed in 1945.

Were the Poles in Vilnius, Lithuania in 1944 Polish? Of course they were.

But as already mentioned you and your limey cohorts, other disgruntled Anglo expat loners and the PRL misfits have always maintained on PF that Poles residing outside of Poland are Polonia and Polonia are not Polish.

You and your ilk have done ill will towards Polonia in the 21st century and your Soviet hero Chernyakhovsky did so in the 20th century.

So how are you going to get out of this one?

Don't bother, you can't and it is actually a delight knowing that you can't.

Some Shakespeare comes to mind: ''tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petard!"

With a perosnal insult and hahahahaha...

Guffaws.


Where did you pull that one from? The same dark place that made you think that Poles in wartime Wilno weren't in their own country?

Dig deeper, it just gets funnier!

It would be funnier yet if the subject weren't so tragically serious however you evidently don't care.

And the 9 was a typo. Unlike your trumpesque gaffe showing that all you know about Poland is what you Google 39 seconds before posting.

One day you may get a chance to visit, if they let you in.

Geez P I always gave you a lot of leeway.
Seems you have no clue what you are talking about. In 1944 Wilno was on the frontline of the Soviet-German war, Lithuania had been annexed together with the Baltic states by the Soviet Union in June 1940. In 1941 Germany attacked the Soviets and moved the front line to the gates of Moscow, and then the tide turned again.

I refuse to read that mess, sorry, darling. Life is too short. Either improve your posts or I will only read the first and last sentence again.

Indeed, it's often like trying to hold an intelligent conversation with infantile autists.


Sure and Vilnius had been transferred to Lithuania back in 1939. Certainly you can say that Vilnius was at times in Soviet-occupied Lithuania (Lithuanian SSR) and Nazi-occupied Lithuania (like one would say with Nazi-occupied Poland) during World War II.

But Vilnius never went back to Poland after 1939.


That's what "Emergent Users" of English always say when they start their journey!

However, most advance very quickly but there are always those like you who refuse and then still complain and blame others when they don't understand English in real world situations.

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I refuse coz I am assertive. Ha! Besides, I am old and know that life is too short to waste it on dealing with the mess by homo sovieticuses, plastic Poles, ritards, mongrels, losers and azholes.

In Soviet occupied Poland.

As you know, Poland was the lawful government of all its illegally occupied territory regardless of whatever your heroes, the Soviets and Nazis claimed.

They were Poles in Poland. Are you still pretending to deny that?

Go on, keep digging; it's fun to see.


That's half the fun of it!

Vilnius was restored to Lithuania on October 10, 1939 and in 1944 Vilnius was still lawfully part of Lithuania. Vilnius was never returned to Poland after 1939.


I did and once again you are exposed for being nothing more than an incessant troll.

Here we are in 2024 and you are arguing for the sake of arguing that Vilnius (formerly within Kresy up until 1939) was still part of Poland in 1944.

Yet in 2013 (11 years ago) you were gleefully crowing over what you called an "excellent article" in the leftist rag The Economist which dismissively characterized Polish sentiment about Kresy as "idealistic."

This article focused on Volyn (another area of Kresy) and trashed this time period and area of the Second Republic of Poland as:

"Reality was more complex. Throughout the interwar period, Poland practiced a harsh policy of assimilation of its national minorities, particularly Belarusian and Ukrainians, fearing they would become a fifth column. In addition to trampling cultural and religious rights, land was seized and redistributed to Polish military veterans, in hopes of reigning in the east."

https://polishforums.com/history/anniversary-wolyn-volhynia-eastern-galicia-66681/2/#msg1388429

Your fellow Polonia-hater pawian surprisingly questioned you about the article's claim that Poland had seized lands.

And in typical fashion you couldn't provide any answers. You just continued with your trolling saying The Economist article was in your words "written by someone without the baggage of being on either side and far more neutral than you'll find on here" and that "I'd certainly trust their article to be neutral and well-researched."


You're the one who made a complete fool out of yourself and are so out of touch with reality that you actually believe that no one notices.

Your trolling posts are proof that social isolation and mental health have a bidirectional relationship.

Was part of Poland, illegally occupied.

Evidently you side with the occupiers.

I only read the first sentence; the rest of your drivel is irrelevant.

Keep digging though; it's funny to see.

So what was the date when it legally became part of Lithuania?


All I did was literally reference your own post from 11 years ago and how wildly inconsistent you are between then and now. Drivel indeed and good to see you finally coming to your senses.

Dig deeper...

Are you having sex?

Is it allowed to ask this in prudish America?