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The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland?


Novichok 3 | 7,879
2 Feb 2023 #2,011
that are not meant for children.

You can have a gun per room, out in the open, and let them play with them all they want if you have the magazine on you - 120 grams of it - and at the same time turn your place into a fortress against home invaders. All those safes are just feel-good things and to tell the burglars where the good stuff is.

A knife to your throat opens even the more expensive safe in less than 30 seconds.
pawian 224 | 24,560
2 Feb 2023 #2,012
let them play with them all they want if you have the magazine on you - 120 grams of it

Yes, and remember to carry this magazine everywhere on you wherever you go around the house, even to the toilet or to take a shower. Very clever!! :):):)
Novichok 3 | 7,879
2 Feb 2023 #2,013
...or be unarmed and die the first a-hole invades your house.
If you (editorial) can't carry a 120-gram mag you should not pretend your guns are for self-defense.

Guns in a safe are like money in the bank: useless until you go get them - in 5 seconds oe less.

Bottom line: either you are armed with access to your gun in seconds or you are not. The single most idiotic way to store them for self-defense is in a safe with that bio bullsh*it gizmo and its false positives and negatives that creates the most unreliable link in the entire chain.

BTW, for most men who carry extra 20 or more pounds of fat on them, a 120-gram mag should not present much of a problem. They probably carry their wallets all day long.
pawian 224 | 24,560
13 Mar 2023 #2,014
...or be unarmed and die the first a-hole invades your house.

Oh my God, you just reminded me those azholes try to invade my house every day. Yesterday it was a fly and two days ago - a field mouse. hahahaha

A good example why rightist Poles who demand free access to guns shouldn`t get it. Here, the PiS Minister of Justice and General Attorney is parading with a gun behind his belt. He was lucky not to shoot one of his buttocks off. If he wore that gun in front, he could shoot off his balls. hahahahaha

So unbelievably amassing...... and those people demand more guns! Can you imagine???
God forbid......



pawian 224 | 24,560
14 Mar 2023 #2,015
the PiS Minister of Justice and General Attorney is parading with a gun behind his belt.

That azholish behavious has only two explanations in my opinion:
1 the guy doesn`t trust his security personnel
2 the guy needs such displays to boost his ego.

Anything else??
Alien 20 | 5,202
14 Mar 2023 #2,016
General Attorney is parading with a gun behind his belt.

He looks like a common criminal.
pawian 224 | 24,560
14 Mar 2023 #2,017
Exactly - he is a political gangster.
jon357 75 | 22,596
14 Mar 2023 #2,018
Anything else??

A tiny fiut.

That or insanity.

There could be something we don't know, like an actual threat, however they do after all have security.

Roll on the election and let's see some adults in the room.
Cargo pants 3 | 1,491
15 Mar 2023 #2,019
Not that I am interested to own a firearm in Poland as just I dont like to drive much in Poland cuz I like my beer with lunch in Poland.I just read this about current events in Poland:

ladbible.com/news/latest-polish-people-flood-gun-ranges-to-learn-in-case-of-russian-invasion-20220325\
jon357 75 | 22,596
27 Mar 2023 #2,020
Another school shooting today.

No wonder we don't want guns here.
Novichok 3 | 7,879
27 Mar 2023 #2,021
Yes, you do, as long as those guns are in American hands and those Americans are standing guard protecting Euro weasels.

Being cowardly weasels is in your DNA and that's why you, Euros, are on our military welfare - not the other way.

School shootings are leftists' gift to America. These scumbags would rather watch kids die than admit to being wrong, If you ask nicely, I will give a list of how these m-fu*ckers are wrong. Dead wrong...
jon357 75 | 22,596
27 Mar 2023 #2,022
What a sweet post.

And meanwhile you've lost yet more children.

No thanks, we like the last as it is.

Anyway, you strongly support gun control. Shall I pay a screen shot from your FB page (with name redacted) to illustrate your views?
pawian 224 | 24,560
27 Mar 2023 #2,023
School shootings are leftists' gift to America.

Lies.
Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are far more likely than Republicans and GOP leaners to see gun violence as a major problem (73% vs. 18%).

PS. Why do rightist lie so blatantly???
Novichok 3 | 7,879
28 Mar 2023 #2,024
Democrats

Because America's criminals - aka nig&gers - are "Democrats"!!!

And meanwhile you've lost yet more children.

Because US leftists decided to make school grounds into gun-free zones. There are many good guys who would volunteer to protect schools from nuts, but not at the risk of going to prison.

There have been six terrorist attacks on Israeli schools since 1974.

So it can be done. Last time I spoke on this subject and asked if the schools in Lake Zurich check bags - randomly or by profiling - I was told that the parents would object.

Then die, a-holes...
Alien 20 | 5,202
28 Mar 2023 #2,025
There have been six terrorist attacks on Israeli schools since 1974.

There have been no terrorist attacks on Polish schools since 1974.
Novichok 3 | 7,879
28 Mar 2023 #2,026
If Poland was surrounded by 1 billion people who hate Poland, Poland would have at least two.
Alien 20 | 5,202
28 Mar 2023 #2,027
It's no possible. Poland is surrounded only by people who love Poland.
jon357 75 | 22,596
28 Mar 2023 #2,028
Israeli

Neither Israel or the US are good role models for this issue.
Kashub1410 6 | 684
28 Mar 2023 #2,029
@Alien
Some even too much, wanting to invade and have Poland on their own terms. It's such a drag sometimes ;)
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
28 Mar 2023 #2,030
In the wrong hands

Which is why most civilzed countries have laws that make it less likely that they fall into the wrong hands.
jon357 75 | 22,596
28 Mar 2023 #2,031
have laws that make it less likely that they fall into the wrong hands.

They'd rather see their children die than actually deal with the problem.

Fortunately, in Poland there is no desire to copy their mistakes.

your English sucks

It doesn't, and your 'correction' is irrelevant.
Novichok 3 | 7,879
28 Mar 2023 #2,032
It's very logical. Laws work ONLY with the good guys who actually WANT to obey them. Laws are powerless when they don't.
That's why your idea of passing another gun control law is stupid. Police everywhere have plenty of guns and murder rates at police stations are zero. Actually, we like cops to be close to us - the guys with guns.
jon357 75 | 22,596
28 Mar 2023 #2,033
murder rates at police stations are zero

The murder rates outside police stations are however high over there, and tragically high in schools.

That's why your idea of passing another gun control law is stupid

Not 'my' idea, and in Europe, we are lucky that most of the continent has firearms laws that are strict and getting stricter.

As you said yourself:
"I believe what should be done is have giant poster of the children who were killed in Uvalde with before and after picture after being shot. Hang these posters in the Senate & House chambers and in the hallways. Maybe something so graphic would change the minds of at least 10 heartless gutless spineless Republicans."
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
28 Mar 2023 #2,034
@Novichok

Nonsense. Laws are quite effective when enforced properly, as evidenced by all the countries that do have proper gun laws. They do not work 100% because nothing works perfectly at all times in reality but they are a massive improvement over inaction.

Btw. There are also rules that are supposed to make sure that bad guys do not become police officers. While imperfect (particulary in the USA) no one in their right mind would suggest that there should be no regulations instead.
Novichok 3 | 7,879
28 Mar 2023 #2,035
Nonsense. Laws are quite effective when enforced properly,

There you go...Now I am proud of you. The problem often is, and it's a big problem here where I am, that selective enforcing of laws became a tool to advance special causes, not to make ours a better society. Again, nothing to do with me having guns.

and tragically high in schools.

Because the left chooses not to protect them and uses school shootings as a lever to pry the 2nd Amendment out of the good guys' hands.

Where the elite left scum's kids go, those schools are protected better than Fort Knox. By the guys with guns!!!! Funny, isn't it...
jon357 75 | 22,596
28 Mar 2023 #2,036
pry the 2nd Amendment out

Yet you support gun control.

As we do in Europe.

It makes sense. The last school shooting in Poland was in the 70s, the last in the UK in the 90s (and in England never).
Miloslaw 20 | 4,782
28 Mar 2023 #2,037
. The last school shooting in Poland was in the 70s, the last in the UK in the 90s (and in England never)

That should explain it all really.But it won't....because Americans don't feel safe without their guns.....
PolAmKrakow 3 | 812
29 Mar 2023 #2,038
@Cargo pants
This is what I have been saying. When I go to the range, there are more and more people nearly every time. To say there is no interest in firearms or firearm ownership in Poland is simply burrying your head in the sand to what is actually happening around you.
jon357 75 | 22,596
29 Mar 2023 #2,039
According to the latest official poll, most Polish citizens are either happy with the current strict gun laws or want them to be stricter. Only a minority (around one in five) want them to be weakened.

35% of respondents said that Poland's current gun laws are sufficient
35% want them to be even stricter
That includes 26% who say that no one other than the uniformed services should have the right to possess a firearm.

Only 18% think that gun ownership laws should be less restrictive but with certain limits still in place
Only 5% think that every citizen should have the right to possess a firearm.
Lenka 5 | 3,500
29 Mar 2023 #2,040
One done in July last year had 70% against relaxing the law.

Over 50% stated they would feel less safe with relaxed gun laws.


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