If they removed all the US gun death stats
remove the firearms statistics involving youth gangs along with about 8 or 10 cities
Dont see ALL there. Might wanna read before blowing smoke...
When you go cherry-picking for crimes
and by the way..it SAYS town is SHAKEN. That is NOT everyday occurance business as usual. Not even for KY/TN. There are no feuds or Revenuers trampin t'hills
a la Justified on daily basis. And even an exaggerated peek like Justifed shows it revolves around DRUGS.
Its fun to play statistical fear monger til you break it down. Some states are extremely dangerous places to live in the general neighborhoods. Some are fully armed and crime is a word.
Find an american state NOT on mexican border with size and population of Poland then do a"study".
how about a mostly rural with a few big city place like..oh..Montana
or same size N.M disastercenter.com/crime/nmcrimn.htm
(notice leap in murder numbers for border state)
I think California has about same population or more. That can skew it to much MORE murder
Studies like thsi are rare becuase it shows real damge-even in Clinton years ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/163496.pdf
a DOJ study that showed a skewed number of firearm murder arrestees and juveniles were mostly illegal.
During this year also was a study done of inmates incarcerated with criminal offenses by gun. Survey of Inmates in State Correctional Facilities (SISCF)
During the offense that brought them to prison, 15% of State inmates and 13% of Federal inmates carried a handgun
, and about 2%, a military-style semiautomatic gun
On average, State inmates possessing a firearm received sentences of 18 years, while those without a weapon had an average sentence of 12 years.
Among prisoners carrying a firearm during their crime, 40% of State inmates and 56% of Federal inmates received a sentence enhancement because of the firearm.
In 2009 -
An offender was armed with a gun, knife, or other object used as a weapon in an estimated 22% of all incidents of violent crime.
Offenders used firearms to commit 8% of violent crime incidents in 2009
Robberies (47%) were the most likely crime to involve an armed offender.
Firearms (28%) were the most common weapons used in robberies.
Most rapes and assaults did not involve the use of a weapon.
Our Foreign born population as 2011 is 38 million =12+% last count. Isn't that population of Poland btw? Does Poland has 12% foregn born citizens and an open border?.
Raw data is best for big pictures. Stats are biased in criteria by the researchers conducting study. 2011 is special since it had mechanic to allow illegals to be counted if they answered the door without self incriminating questions to worry them.
America is NOT a good comparison at all to any of these squealings about guns. It is not equal nations of size and population... nor continent apple to continent orange.. is Apple to Flounder.
this is not as nice with raw data as the disaster sitePoland had 111 gun deaths alone that data year 2002
But from these we can say -2002- that compared to U.S., Poland with annually has more Murders (Compared to a regionally similar State of close size) MT was 16 by all methods
(and for 60 years is avg 28)or slightly less crime (compared to a border state)NM
152 with median amount 140 between 1960-2011far far less crime (compared to state with same population as whole country- states ARE kinda like countries)than CA
which btw has had restrictive gun laws in place for some time. 2395 murders. Cali hasnt had fewer murders than 1000 since late 60s.Has even broke 4k mark
And even this does not break down that Poland gun rate is compared to ALL murders in those states that year
Poland had ttl 662 murders in 2011 (and 680 in 2010). NM had ttl 156.... CA of course far more 1,792 (equal rate to Solomon Islands and Niger)
Maybe I can say by country rates 1.1>4.8 you are 3x more likely to be murdered in US. Break down by method-legality of tool and citizenship of killer. A whole new statistic .
The rampart drug cartels run by unwelcome guests from other countries. Illegal shipping- illegal immigrants who are 75% the DREGS of their former homeplace, have not yet found a way to be as prevalent.
My main point above is statistics are only as reliable as the bias of the researcher.
Personally with a very very big family and 50% of them in Southern Cal and one set of gangbanger cousins in Sanfer.. No person in my family has ever been murdered. Those bangers never killed anyone though one did time for stabbing a person and having ilegal firearm.I have lived in 11 different states and only in WA have I ever lived even near a murder (5 miles away-murder suicide DV).
For the thread question it has everything to do with how safe citizens feel, how well violent crime is stamped- hard, how many opportunities for outside criminal element (and domestic) are there.
Poland isn't that bad..still not quite so good.. as the saying goes- "can't squeeze blood from turnip". Poland has a low murder rate by most standards. One of the lowest in EU? I doubt guns would change that by much. When the first meth labs are found-then we know they in trouble ^_^
Poland would not likley be enriched by the American model of gun ownership, but guns shuold be legislated somehow if the majority of people wish to legally own some.
oh..and here is link to recent crime studies of plans done by poland