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PO to boycott TVP in Poland


WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
22 Jan 2019  #1
It didn't take them long to play political games with the murder of Pawel Adamowicz.

wiadomosci.wp.pl/bojkot-tvp-zarzad-platformy-podjal-decyzje-6341305466185345a

PO have stated they will be boycotting public TV station TVP unless the management of the station changes.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
22 Jan 2019  #2
To be honest, almost everyone has had enough of Kurski, even many people within PiS.
jon357 63 | 14,122
22 Jan 2019  #3
It's hardly the first boycott of a TV station by a political party in PL, now is it.......

It didn't take them long to play political games with the murder of Pawel Adamowicz.

Indeed, it didn't take the discredited state broadcaster TVP long at all.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
22 Jan 2019  #4
nice..we wont have to look at those nasty mugs anymore,and listen to their BS .win win
they boycotted their brain cells long time ago
Dougpol1 30 | 2,944
22 Jan 2019  #5
I do some work with independent film producers here. They had successful TV careers until PIS came along and started interfering with their editorial rights. what they think about Kurski could not be transmitted, even after the watershed.

Pure scum is the description that comes to mind.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
22 Jan 2019  #6
think about Kurski could not be transmitted, even after the watershed.

i though libtards has been saying that throwing groundless accusations on public figure is a hate crime that leads to potential murder.

do you have any shred of evidence of any legal misconduct by Kurski?
"scum"? what is this language? isnt that "hate language"?
da fuk man?
Dougpol1 30 | 2,944
22 Jan 2019  #7
throwing groundless accusations on public figure

Kurski is not a public figure, but a political one, and no, sorry to disappoint you, but scum is on the same wavelength as fool or clown.The man has done a great deal of damage to the reputation of respected professionals, and for no reason at all but a political agenda, as I said. Not that you care as you are as biased as the PIS clowns are.
bolek_tusk 3 | 243
22 Jan 2019  #8
what is this language? isnt that "hate language"?

Bolsheviks can be accused of 'hate language'. It's in the rules....
gregy741 4 | 1,204
22 Jan 2019  #9
I leave it to the board to determine who is the disgusting indvidual here.

nothing to determine..its crystal clear whos disgusting..you are.and the language you use to describe people.

fool or clown

PIS clowns

Pure scum

is that this love language you leftist wish to promote?

The man has done a great deal of damage to the reputation of respected professionals

according to whom? got any court judgments proving that this man did anything unlawful,or illegal?
you threw some dumb story ,about some ppl who lost some income,then all this followed by insults,hoping that we will clap out hands with joy?

common man..not cool
Dougpol1 30 | 2,944
22 Jan 2019  #10
hoping

The only thing I'm hoping for is that PIS is soon gone for the good of my second home.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
22 Jan 2019  #11
and you believe that calling 40% of polish voters -"pure scum" will help you to remove PIS from power?
i am all about freedom of speech and freedom to criticize,but if leftists want to call "hate crime " any form of criticize of public figures.it has to be applied to everyone equally.

cant be situation,where asking about Adamowicz finances is called "hate ",and at the same time spitting groundless accusation at PIS people.calling them clowns and scum.

i would rather stop this festival of leftist idiocy,where criticism of leftist liberal officials is called "hate speech"
its a dangerous path,closing mouth of public,who should have the right to point wrongdoings and criticize anyone without fear of being prosecuted.

leftist...what happened to Frank Magnitz? dont see anything about it in media
Dougpol1 30 | 2,944
23 Jan 2019  #12
calling 40% of polish voters -"pure scum"

Do keep up. I know it's difficult for you. But it was clear from my posts who that term refers to.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,466
23 Jan 2019  #13
PO have stated they will be boycotting public TV station TVP unless the management of the station changes.

Let em... not that hardcore PO voters are TVP's core audience anyway... it'll be about as successful as Americans boycotting the ***** Felon League for not standing up during the anthem
bolek_tusk 3 | 243
23 Jan 2019  #14
The only thing I'm hoping for is that PIS is soon gone for the good of my second home.

So you want to get back to the extremely high levels of corruption under PO-PSL...

I don't think the majority of Poles do, as can be seen by the unprecedentedly high level of support PiS have in the opinion polls.

I take it you've been out of the country for some time...
cms neuf - | 907
23 Jan 2019  #15
I dont think there is such a thing as a hardcore PO voter

The corruption in PO times was at a similar level to todays corruption.

I dont think PiS has an unprecedented level of support- I understand that you don't read Polish but we have recently had elections during which PIS lost seats compare to the last local elections.
bolek_tusk 3 | 243
23 Jan 2019  #16
The corruption in PO times was at a similar level to todays corruption.

Any evidence?

but we have recently had elections during which PIS lost seats compare to the last local elections.

I think that is just wishful thinking....The reality doesn't quite bear that out.

The 2018 Polish local elections were held in October. The local elections were a victory of the ruling Law and Justice (PiS)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Polish_local_elections
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
23 Jan 2019  #17
They weren't a victory. The largest mayoral election they won was in Zamość, and KO-PSL beat them in terms of the number of seats to provincial parliaments.

They actually lost very badly in most cities, including in places such as Nowy Sącz.

The last credible poll gave them 34-26% over PO, but Biedron on 8%. Kukiz'15 is on the edge of the threshold, and with those results, they won't be able to put together a majority.
Dougpol1 30 | 2,944
23 Jan 2019  #18
a victory of the ruling Law and Justice (PiS)

That's why I live in Tri-City Bolek. We have no truck with PIS here :)
bolek_tusk 3 | 243
23 Jan 2019  #19
They weren't a victory.

Nice example of doublespeak :)

In my simplistic/ old-fashioned version of maths, PiS's 34.13% beats POKO's 29.97%
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
23 Jan 2019  #20
Except it's wrong to count only one party when the opposition is made up of KO/PSL/SLD in this election.
jon357 63 | 14,122
23 Jan 2019  #21
Remember they need one thing to fear and hate. Fascism only works when the weak and powerless can identify imaginary enemies.
cms neuf - | 907
23 Jan 2019  #22
If you want evidence about corruption then just check polands current place in the transparency index - After many years of improvement under all govts It has now started falling again, and it is back to the same level as 2014 when PO were in charge (ranked number 35)

I expect when the next set of figures are released: will worsen further. Reasons for this fall are the staffing of state companies with P I S functionaries plus weakening of the legal system and the weakening of financial oversight.

When it comes to corruption I think that they are all as bad as each other - what concerns me very much about PIS is their willingness to undermine democracy and to use propaganda.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,466
23 Jan 2019  #23
If you want evidence about corruption then just check polands current place in the transparency index

Making it still less corrupt than nearly 150 other countries....

Besides, US ranks as one of the least corrupt nations yet due to the huge influence of lobbyists, the fact that it's impossible to fire union members (a CPS teacher can show up drunk to work all the time and won't be fired), tons of quid pro quo in every city hall, lots of corrupt cops and border agents, etc. I would say the U.S. is far more corrupt than Poland.
cms neuf - | 907
23 Jan 2019  #24
There is a separate thread about the US.

Yes - there are many more corrupt places than Poland - russia and any of its client states for starters

But for Poland we should demand a higher standard and also keep improving not go backwards
OP WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
23 Jan 2019  #25
To be honest, almost everyone has had enough of Kurski, even many people within PiS.

Well not sure about people within PiS but certainly some PiS voters, I have to admit. Have you seen his tweets? He is so caught up in how amazing he believes he has made the channel, constantly bragging about how high the ratings are, that it is beginning to get very annoying. And yes, even PiS supporters, or certainly people on the right who are general for PiS over PO or Nowoczesna, have noticed the over the top bias in TVP. I think it's less the attacking of the opposition and more the 'look how great PiS is' and 'look how great we are' stuff that is getting beyond the pale. Of course, the PO run TVP for 8 years was biased and full of lies, but the point is, the PiS one aint any better.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,466
23 Jan 2019  #26
@cms neuf

The point is that the index is highly subjective...

Did you ever stop to consider that perhaps the majority of poles are happy with the status quo and dont want to become like germany, france, uk etc?

Leftists push crap like open borders, shady pro democracy ngos usually run by soros, pro gay agenda etc without ever asking the locals if they want that stuff. No, instead they make the decision for them as if theyre some sort of progressive savior and patronizes locals telling them theyre backward and they must embrace a multi kulti 'open' society. Basically, telling them their society is **** and they should be like the most liberal western country without ever considering whether the citizenry even wants that. No instead baizuo aka white left makes the decisions for them
cms neuf - | 907
23 Jan 2019  #27
So point me to another more reliable measure of corruption if you know of one
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,466
23 Jan 2019  #28
Idk as personally i dont give a crap about corruption as long as it doesnt force my living standards to decline, i can keep packing that heat, and thought crime cops arent knocking on my door. Qatar, uae etc have high levels of nepotism, cronyism, quid pro quo and thus rank high on corruption perception yet no ones complaining because the citizens live well, make good salaries, work easy jobs and get tons of free ****. Therefore id say measures like gdp per capita/ppp are more important or even the happiness index which measures overall quality of life

If you think poland is corrupt youve not seen much of the world nor experienced prl or 90s poland
antheads 13 | 327
24 Jan 2019  #29
Considering Polsat and TVN are very anti the current goverment, what is wrong with TVP being pro goverment, to provide balance in the media landscape?. In Australia and UK the state run media is quite left, and people generally accept that, whats wrong with the state run media being conservative in poland whilst PIS is in power? There are higher rated, better funded dissenting channels. The Guardian/NYTimes line that media is being supressed in Poland rings hollow.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
24 Jan 2019  #30
only leftist are allowed to have agenda and political views.the rest must shut up and keep quiet,cus is hate crime if they dont.


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