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Mixed English Grammar Thread


Lyzko  42 | 9663
10 Jun 2021   #181
It was common coin in Shakespeare's time to speak not only in double negations, but in double superlatives as well-:)
pawian  222 | 26670
12 Jun 2021   #182
n double superlatives

Wow,. good to know -

While I may scape,
I will preserve myself: and am bethought
To take the basest and most poorest shape,
That ever penury, in contempt of man,
Brought near to beast.
Lyzko  42 | 9663
12 Jun 2021   #183
...or: This, the MOST UNKINDEST cut of all. (Hamlet Act II Scene I, if memory serves me correctly).
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #184
Check this exercise for 6th grade primary school.

I wonder if they did intend to smuggle such casual speech or there is a logical mistake in it which confused my students. See for yourself.


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jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #185
Nothing 'casual', nothing unusual.

Your photo cuts off part way through the rubric. Does it explain that they have to change the form of the verb? Some course books do and some expect the teacher to make that clear.

I wouldn't use travel though when go is fine.
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #186
Nothing 'casual',

Really?? Look closer. :):):)

I wouldn't use travel

BS. Travel is OK. Casual usage is somewhere else.
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #187
Travel is OK

BS. Travel is barely acceptable as a heuristic. A proficient user of the language would say go.

By 'casual' do you mean the rubric, and what exactly do you mean by casual? Is it wearing slacks and a polo shirt?
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #188
Stop obfuscating, darling, you are notorious to do it regularly when you have no idea. :):):)

I wasn`t asking about travel.
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #189
Your original post would make more sense if you were a bit clearer about what you're trying to say.

What do you mean by ''casual'?
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #190
What do you mean

I mean you troll and obfuscate on purpose when you have no idea. Simple. Then you should shut up and wait for a proper answer.
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #191
There isn't an idea, and there's nothing wrong in the photo.

And you still haven't said what you mean by 'casual'.
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #192
nothing wrong

Really????

I won`t tell you now, I prefer to wait until sb more intelligent solves the issue. If they don`t, I will explain the matter which is haunting you to have such amasing meltdowns.
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #193
It doesn't work, you know. People are wise to your attempts at provocation.

And you still haven't made it clear what you mean by casual.
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #194
It doesn't work,

Darling, how about posting sth of value at last coz your whole activity today is trolling on my posts.

Can you move to other threads and post sth on Polish culture???
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #195
You're repeating yourself.

Perhaps black coffee, a good sleep and a visit to an AA meeting may be worth your while.

And you've still not said what you mean by casual. A nebulous term if ever there was one.
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #196
And you've still not said

Exactly, coz I am delaying this moment until sb more intelligent tries to guess. Can`t you contain those furious meltdowns of yours and wait a little???
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #197
You have a curious (casual?) understanding of the term "furious meltdown".

And there are no issues with t(e language in the photos.
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #198
Is there no one else more intelligent to guess the issue????
Alien  25 | 6227
2 days ago   #199
guess the issue

where and visited don't match together.
mafketis  38 | 11036
2 days ago   #200
where and visited don't match together.

I'm so used to awkward sentences in English books I barely notice anymore.... I did notice it but it's awkward, not 'casual'...

I'm also wondering about 3. and what kind of answer they're expecting.... "What did you play in the park?" I wouldn't expect a sport as an answer, I'd expect answers like 'We played the trombone.' or 'We played scrabble.'

Also 4. is different from the rest (which require "did (verb)" while that question is supposed to be something like "Where was she last night?"

For all we know pawian's really upset that the exercise used the word 'friend' and not 'friendess' or something like that....
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #201
Exactly!!! Alien, you provided the solution which jon couldn`t notice for half a day.
Indeed, saying where did you visit last year sounds very casual , if not awkward. Of course jon will claim it doesn`t but we are accustomed to his lies already

That is why I wrote:
I wonder if they did intend to smuggle such casual speech or there is a logical mistake .

The suspected logical mistake is that all questions are supposed to use the verb which appears in the answer. In case of visit which sounds strange with where, the question should be: Where did you go last week? to sound good.
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #202
where and visited don't match together.

It works. The question is: where did you visit last weekend?

Go is better than visited however the sentence isn't a problem. It is grammatically correct. And not especially awkward.

solution which jon couldn`t notice

Because it's not an error and certainly not 'cadual'...
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #203
It works

Of course we knew you would say so. While it doesn`t, darling. It isn`t normal English, especially in the light of other sentences which use travel instead of go and you even pointed to it before:

Travel is barely acceptable. A proficient user of the language would say go.

Are you aware you are contradicting yourself in such a stupid way.

What is your pathetic education??? You did GCSEs and went to work at 16 years old???????? :):):)
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #204
While it does

It does.

Think of context.

It isn`t normal English

Like using travel rather than go, it's a heuristic device for children.

You know less than you think. It's always a mistake for someone to try to correct a person who is not only right but also way above them.

Non-native teachers sometimes make that mistake.
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #205
BS. You have lost and can`t accept it. Simple. Ha!!!
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #206
You're still wrong.

It's actually quite sad that someone earning a salary of sorts as a schoolteacher can't understand why didactic materials choose certain words and phrases.
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #207
BS. We don`t believe one word by notorious liars who can`t accept defeat.
jon357  72 | 23298
2 days ago   #208
Keep digging, Paw.

It's better for your liver than your other activity.
pawian  222 | 26670
2 days ago   #209
Actually, you are wrong again, darling. Beetroot juice is good for your liver. Ha!!!!
mafketis  38 | 11036
2 days ago   #210
Think of context.

Very few foreign language textbooks think of context.... it's about model sentences and not about realistic usage. That's not a criticism, they kind of have to be that way though it is an argument for limiting textbook usage past a certain point.

it's a heuristic device

Lots of teachers mistake heuristic devices for reality..... some Poles are stunned that concepts like 'second conditional' are just not part of English education for English speakers.


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