Travel / Why do you visit Poland? [223]

Someone hijacked this thread. I'd like it back on topic please.
I visited Poland because I discovered the families of my ancestors there. They mostly come from southern Poland. Much to my amazement I found hundreds of relatives that just two years ago I didn't know existed.

I plan to return often.
I also visited places of historical significance along with those places associated with the Nazi occupation and oppression.

Life / Opłatek, not presents, epitomises the true Polish Christmas spirit [85]

So, long ago my grandmother kept this tradition alive when she came to the USA. We had the Opłatek after we came back to her house from midnight Mass. We'd share the Opłatek with each family member present, confess and forgiveness, make everything right, kiss and each a late huge meal. This would have been circa 1950's

Genealogy / Poland Genealogy Resources [130]

Merged: Genealogy web page

I put this together for my Polish relatives. Let me know if it is understandable and in good form. Thanks.
singingfalls.com/dna_polska.html

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1043]

Merged: what is the meaning of "ciacho"

OK, forgive my ignorance. What is the contemporary meaning of "ciacho" in Poland.

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]

Very very interesting. We used Babush.

Genealogy / Surname Krzyszczuk [35]

Awesome David. Keep at it. I also have the szczuk issue to deal with from the same areas.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

Polonius, Your kind attention to the surname Szumski.

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

If you look at these two images you can see that the Sorbs have a very high concentration of I2a haplogroup in the areas associated with the Sorbs. I2a is ancient European and goes back way before Germany or Poland existed. It is associated with western and eastern Slavic peoples with unique subclades closely related from Eastern Europe.



Serb Migrations

They are not generally considered Germanic. Cultural assimilation is another matter.
I am not sure that it is appropriate to post on this here. I vaguely recall something to that effect. If so, my apologies.

News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

Stockholm Syndrome

If there was a like button I would select "like" for this comment polishinvestor. But in my neighborhood we Poles stuck together most of the time. Not racists or ethnicists, just family. But even so, I am an old warrior, and when you are in a fox hole and the one next to you is not shooting at you, he is closer than a brother. I can tell you that these racial and political matters are the luxury of those who are not at war. When you are at war, any race or religion doesn't matter if he is on your side and he feels the same way. Divide and conquer, this is the tool that is used by the wicked to gain power. But I have this idealistic view of Poles even though I grew up in a tough neighborhood in a city of 5.5 million. There is something deep and humbling about our history. Maybe we will need to be humbled more?

News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

Among the Polish Americans Wałęsa is a folk hero and none of this is coming out in the news media here as of yet. What I know is that Poland is no longer under the Soviet regime and regardless of political chicanery, the victors always write the history. It has always been that way. Big deal. Why are you killing and throwing mud at the only Polish hero of modern times. Like it says in the good book, "the foolish woman destroys her own home." Oh and yes, this, "A house divided can not stand." Under oppression people do a lot of hard things. It doesn't mean much. Show me a political system that does not have its fair share of corruption and blood on its hands. Good luck with that. Most of the time when the politicos are rattling a sword in one place it is because they do not want you to look at another place. Live in peace if you can because has not always been that way and it will not always be that way.

News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

Merged: Lech Walesa is a traitor?????

This is crazy. I thought Lech Walesa was a Polish hero and freedom fighter. Now Poland hates him? What is going on over there?

Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [331]

People that are provocative like the OP do not live. They merely exist. But you are correct, "the sooner the better" regarding my visit to Poland. I have been doing googleearth and have the exact spot my paternal grandmother was born and a rough idea regarding my maternal grandfather's place. The draw to go there is very strong for me.

Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [331]

What a waste of time...but I will chime in anyway. Between 1964 and 1974 I traveled all over the world and have seen many people. I grew up in inner city USA in a "Polish" neighborhood. My grandparents on both sides were both Polish and came from Southern Poland and Western Ukraine. They were good hard working people that came to a foreign land without speaking the language in a time when the world was at war and was slaughtering each other by the millions. They suffered hardship. They raised large families and fed and clothed them well. They never forgot their roots and during the years after WWII sent and brought many things to their families in Poland from the abundance they found in America. I truly and heartily respect them for that. It was love and very powerful.

Poland is one land I have not visited but Lord willing someday soon I will.
I have seen the bias expressed by Wizard among many individuals and groups in the world. It is darkness and causes pain. He expresses the language of a fool and should be avoided and pitied. I am grateful to those of you who have expressed reason and wisdom regarding this matter in this thread. You give me hope. Thank you.

Genealogy / KUKULA ancestry [32]

Once again indebted to your expertise Polonius3. Thanks.

Genealogy / KUKULA ancestry [32]

I have many Kulka in my family tree and one Kukielka. Southern Poland-Western Ukraine.

Genealogy / Poland Genealogy Resources [130]

I thought this would be valuable resource for some. Victims of Totalitarianisms pbgot.pl/en

Genealogy / Looking Into The Surname Bednarczuk: Ukrainian, Polish, Ruthenian, Belarusian, etc? [27]

Polonius3, I agree but given he married my grandmother who was from Adamówka, Poland and that Dzjadek consistently claimed Polish ethnicity I lean toward accepting it. That said, my younger brother claims that when Babush and Dzjadek would argue that she would say, "You Ruski!" (Phonetic). I never heard the phrase myself but Dzjadek spoke Polish and I never heard him say a word of English. I know the records that are associated with my paternal line from the old country are in Latin. Either way, we are of haplogroup I2a and subclade I-4882 which is generally accepted as Polish. No matter, I am not concerned. The distance of all of my ancestry is no more than 160 miles radius geographically with all maternal relatives and my paternal grandmother from the southern Poland. He never gave his nationality as Polish. He claimed Russian "nationality" but Polish "race" on the ships manifest.

Genealogy / Looking Into The Surname Bednarczuk: Ukrainian, Polish, Ruthenian, Belarusian, etc? [27]

My Paternal great grandfather Stanislaw Petraszczuk and grandfather Ludwik Petraszczuk were from the Ukraine but claimed to be of the Polish "race" and Russian nationality in all official documents here in the USA and also in the ship's manifest. Should I not trust their claim?

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Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

Yes, yes, I misspelled Kukła. That was the pups name.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


Thank you so much for your kind attention. Yes, I remember the puppet show very well. My wife's first puppy was named Kula.
High regards,
Stan

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

Polonius3, Tell me about Kukielka surname if you would please.

Genealogy / Typical Polish Eye Color [77]

Just to enhance the subject thread. Here is my Polish eye. When I was a little boy they used to call me "whitey" because my hair was platinum blonde. The other image is a construct from the dna analysis of a man found in a cave in Spain. La Brana man.

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  my eye
  
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  La Brana eye