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Posts by Ironside  

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Ironside   
7 Jan 2010
USA, Canada / REFUSED A HOLIDAY VISA TO THE U.S CAUSE IM POLISH [323]

The number of the illegal Polish immigrants is high, 70 thousands and it ranks us in the 10th place in the USA. This is one of the reasons why it is so difficult to receive a visa to the USA for an average Pole.

lol
Why there are visas n the first place.
Ironside   
12 Jan 2010
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

Still waiting to hear something from Harry.

don't waste your time on him ...all you gonna hear from Harry is neatly presented bs.
Ironside   
17 Jan 2010
USA, Canada / What do Polish people think of the USA [287]

I think that USA is country with great potential but unfortunately taken over by then or this cabal, still in some places is no bad at all.
Ironside   
17 Jan 2010
News / Too much change in Poland?! [25]

i dont think anything like that will ever happen in PL.

wishful thinking eh?

Political games are about who will screw whom,I wouldn't mind it if those in charge had Poland best interest at heart. Unfortunately in Poland these in power seems not to be interested or know what it is to build strong country.

espana

What, haven't you been milked today?
Ironside   
17 Jan 2010
USA, Canada / What do Polish people think of the USA [287]

in every country most of the others don't know much about others cultures, so what?
Point is educated Americans seems to have less general knowledge then their average counterparts in Poland for example.
Does it really matters kid?
Ironside   
17 Jan 2010
News / Too much change in Poland?! [25]

So what is it that is needed to build a strong country

first kill bankers!
Ironside   
17 Jan 2010
News / Too much change in Poland?! [25]

So what is it that is needed to build a strong country? Present your ideas and then run for office, to see how many Poles agree with you..

it doesn't work like that, well I could present my views but is up for those in power to know and to implement it!

If they don't know or don't care what they are doing there in the first place - they are frauds! And I don't care for excuses that something cannot be done - you cannot, be gone looser!

Problem in Poland is that those loser's because they live off country and have some money, believe themselves cool and successful when in fact they are clueless idiots.

polan It will always be the Mexico of Europe.

do you contribute here fraud, you are not spanish, and you are troll, and you should be baned, be gone evil spirit !
Ironside   
17 Jan 2010
USA, Canada / What do Polish people think of the USA [287]

She does have a point. Will knowing where the US is on a globe make her a better person?

no, but it makes democracy fools gold
Ironside   
18 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

That has nothing to do with the attitudes of the regular people (no one asked them either) in that period or later. And when Poland gained independence after WWI, anti-Jewish feeling hit an all-time high. I don't see how anyone can deny this. With all due respect to today's Poland, it was not warm and welcoming to Jews since about the 17th century.

Attitudes of the regular people were varied in time,place and often depended on personal experience.
This is two way street often anti-Jewish feeling were not without a reason.
Generally speaking period after Poland regained Independence nationalism were on the rise.
Every groups and minority were regarded from the point of view of it contribution and loyalty towards state.
Because antebellum Jewish minority were varied politically and their loyalty as a whole were rightly questioned and there was also economical issue.
To conclude, your generalization about not welcoming Poland is all wrong.
First of all Poland were home for Jews for many generations, and like for many others (non-Jews) hardly were warm or welcome, its was home for better or worse.

There was one factor however which make things complicated, Jewish population as a whole didn't assimilate. They separated themselves from society to the extend that living in Polish state didn't learn language, others were building communist or socialist Jewish parties and of course many embraced Polish culture.
Ironside   
19 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

You missing a point, whatever Poland were friendly place or not it was matter of perspective, for educated Jew immersed in polish culture it could be a very friendly place, for a Jew from little jewish town in eastern Poland - it could be unfriendly - although it could be said about polish village in the same vicinity.

You overlooked two factors that there were other nationalities in antebellum Poland then poles and Jews and secondly majority of the jewish population were paupers with no education living in mainly jewish neighbourhood.

The policy of Polish state had no bearings on well-beings general jewish population.

as for influence of the church its no middle ages, I think you greatly overestimate it.
bad memories of Poland come from two sources, being a poor and WWII, others factor were only secondary and now are being played as main issues.
Ironside   
20 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

If the Poles are going to lay the blame at anyone's door maybe they should look at their own leaders and their forays into Russia - if you keep poking a dog with a stick eventually it's going to bite you.

that is your ignorance of Polish history speaking or your logic is "different"?

Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to." -- Marshall Rydz-Smigly

one sentence out of context by the man who didn't run Polish diplomacy or government prove exactly nothing.
Ironside   
20 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

At least it speaks volumes about the mood in the country I would say...

well? German state was hostile to independent Poland and wasn't liked, are you surprised?

night!
Ironside   
20 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

You're ignoring too much history. Look at this link and tell me which part isn't true:

Well, there was nothing I didn't know about.
and there was nothing I find particularly discriminating.
Also those acts of the government took part in the last 4 years before a war, in my opinion its a hardly time for someone with a bit of wit to judge Poland as "unfriendly" place:).
Ironside   
20 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

Obviously a very insignificant man - how foolish of me to have brought it up.

do you try to make a point here or you are interested in the true picture ?

Can you find full text not only single quote ?
Ironside   
20 Jan 2010
History / Question on Poland's szlachta clan admission [26]

Was such admission possible in case of a non-szlachtic before man?

such admission were possible but not common as in practice it supposed to be confirmation that nobleman was indeed nobleman.

Did such admission require King and Sejm confirmation or the mere fact of admission was sufficient for nobilitation?

No it didn't! Because in theory it wasn't admission but confirmation of one's status!

I read nothing about clan structures, about any clan organization in post-knight period (since 16 century). Did clans really have organization? What were the structure and ways to elect major clan representatives?

there wasn't structures pre se, it was more relaxed association or brotherhood, any formal structures were based on territorial organization of Poland ie. administration were governed by local nobleman but it was working for all local szlachta.

Generally speaking so called clan structures were only serving function of supporting their members.
Ironside   
21 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

That article refers only to government actions. It's not as if they came out of a vacuum.

Well, there were anti-Jewish sentiments but still I wouldn't called prewar Poland unfriendly place. Yes, there were problems and issues to be addressed but nothing like the picture Zionist would like to present. If not for a war all issues could be solved in time.

And to dress here some balance to the picture of poor oppressed Jews - do you know about Polish student beaten to death by couple of Jewish workers.

In 1937 there was strike of farmers suppressed by the police, in some way antebellum Poland were full of conflicts if you concentrate only on Jews (they wasn't an monolith entity either)

you loosing full and true picture. The Issue cannot be concluded by saying that Poland were unfriendly!
Ironside   
21 Jan 2010
History / Question on Poland's szlachta clan admission [26]

Yes and untill late 16th century was practised for great feats on the field of battle, contributions to science, law or economy.

Why don't you read OP question with understanding/
?
he is asking about organization of noblemen with the same coats of arms.

and by the way there wasn't clans structures in 16th century Poland.
What you are presenting here is system of connection and social interaction between noblemen and extremely rich noblemen magnates - it had nothing to do with clans and Scotland but is more similar to Rome and patron - client system.
Ironside   
21 Jan 2010
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

That`s unthinkable in Central Europe (for burning Polish flag they would end up in plastic bags within an hour from doing so........... ).

what a ********* !

Yes I agree with you on subject that e.g. single mums should be kept on benefits, but not these useless c****

nonsense !

Why don't you have a break! have a glass of water or something1
Ironside   
21 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

But this special quote is from an article from 6th August 1939.

do you have a link?
Ironside   
21 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

The only way to heal the bad feelings is to be nice to each other now. There is no reason in the world why Jews and Poles in 2010 can't get along. As countries, Poland and Israel are friendly and they should be.

I can agree with that.

Well, if they wouldn't have been good at everything they touched

Don't exegerate. please1

some of our first coins have Hebrew symbols on them, no one knows that.

who don't know?
Mieszko Stary
Ironside   
21 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

Okay...I give up....I can't find the original.

I can only find a text by Danish bloke who I believe is fascist and is trying to justify Nazis.

thanks anyway BB:)
Ironside   
21 Jan 2010
History / Famous Russian Poles [243]

Working with Russia as history proved never had been advantageous for Poland.
Sad really! but don't blame Poles this time!