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The Irish, the biggest tax evaders ever


dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
16 Jan 2010  #1
Since i moved to Ireland from Poland, it seems to me that everybody here has a job, but at the same time they claim benefits ie lie about having jobs in order to feck the system up. Is it unheard of that if most people claim benefits but still work without paying tax, no wonder Ireland is in the position it is in now.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
16 Jan 2010  #2
a job, but at the same time they claim benefits i

And claim them both sides of the border.
Honest George 1 | 105
16 Jan 2010  #3
The Irish, the biggest tax evaders ever

Notice any similarities ?
amt0604ie - | 14
16 Jan 2010  #4
Since i moved to Ireland from Poland, it seems to me that everybody here has a job, but at the same time they claim benefits ie lie about having jobs in order to feck the system up. Is it unheard of that if most people claim benefits but still work without paying tax, no wonder Ireland is in the position it is in now.

The economic growth is just not there for people to be hired cash in hand.
Although I'm aware of a few, mainly people in trades not subject to PAYE, working nixers this would be the case in all countries and to claim everyone is at it is beyond rediculous.

While having nearly half a million on the live register has crippled public finances Ireland's woes go far beyond this.
OP dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
16 Jan 2010  #5
And claim them both sides of the border.

Yup a lot of people here live in the north but work in the South just so they remain on benefits, its fecked up.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
21 Jan 2010  #6
Thats life D, its a lot harder in the UK for people to work on the side now...and the penalties are heavy if caught...about time too! Maybe if both sides co-operated it might make a difference to the system?
bravo 4 | 63
21 Jan 2010  #7
Irish people can work and still claim many benefits. This does not mean they are evading tax. Id say we are about the same as everyone else.

Our problems have FA to do with tax evasion.

A note to expats: This is why I never b*tch about Poland even though I live here. I dont know enough yet to make pronouncements. I hate it when foreigners make stupid statements like this about Ireland.
amt0604ie - | 14
21 Jan 2010  #8
I hate it when foreigners make stupid statements like this about Ireland.

I second that.
1jola 14 | 1,879
21 Jan 2010  #9
Notice any similarities ?

Yup.

I hate it when foreigners make stupid statements like this about Ireland.

We are starting to see what erks us when it hits home.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209
21 Jan 2010  #10
The Irish, the biggest tax evaders ever

What? Worse than the Greeks? If so they must be very very good at it.
bravo 4 | 63
21 Jan 2010  #11
We are starting to see what erks us when it hits home.

Could you explain that rather illusive and not very clever statement?
Ironside 48 | 9,748
21 Jan 2010  #12
dtaylor5632 and SeanBM are both Irish :)
McCoy 27 | 1,276
21 Jan 2010  #13
celtic not irish. dt is a scotsman
Ireland32 2 | 172
21 Jan 2010  #14
Irish people can work and still claim many benefits. This does not mean they are evading tax

This is true and it is here that the problem lies. The cost of living here is still too high. even with a minimum wage that is over and beyond that of the UK, many people here still get benefits to make ends meet.

You can work 3 days and claim 2 days dole....thats how it works here. Unemployment benefit is paid by the number of days your in work not whether you work or not.

I think the statement that alot of people here are benefit fraudsters is totally untrue and I applaud those who are satisfied to return to work even if it is for only 2 or 3 days a week. This assists in lifting the economic burden from the state.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
21 Jan 2010  #15
I think the statement that alot of people here are benefit fraudsters is totally untrue

Well lets say it is as untrue as any other country.

It is not more of less than in other European countries, in my opinion.
Ireland32 2 | 172
21 Jan 2010  #16
Well lets say it is as untrue as any other country.

Now that would be a fair statement by democratic friend.
pawian 161 | 9,846
8 Sep 2012  #17
The Irish, the biggest tax evaders ever

Wow, very interesting. It seems that tax evasion is prevalent in Western Europe. I talked to a few foreign guys and after a few shots of Polish vodka, they all admitted that they hide part of their profits from the state. One Dutchman tried to excuse himself by saying he prefers giving tax evaded money to his daughter who is studying than to the state.
milky 13 | 1,657
9 Sep 2012  #18
Yea, 4 guys building an extension in my sisters house two weeks ago. They all had to leave on Wednesday for a hour to sign on and get their "full" dole.. And people claim that there's a huge black economy in Poland, Piotr trading a jar of honey with Rafal for a few heads of cabbage; How else could they afford a mortgage of 15 times their salary.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,651
9 Sep 2012  #19
How else could they afford a mortgage of 15 times their salary.

I'd love to know how people are getting these mortgages that you claim, given that we all know how strict the Polish lenders are.
milky 13 | 1,657
9 Sep 2012  #20
They're not getting them (80% refusal)anymore! as the "cash" tap from the west is no longer on full power; hence stricter bank regulation.
Avalon 4 | 1,068
10 Sep 2012  #21
It is not more of less than in other European countries, in my opinion.

telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9533981/Eastern-Europe-must-curb-shadow-economy-to-weather-eurozone-crisis-says-World-Bank.html

World bank


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