Travel / Do Poles like to hunt? Hunting in Poland. [211]

@PolAmKrakow (and others), for me personally my problem with hunting is not the fact that an animal is getting killed, because that's normal in nature - predators kill their prey in order to have something to eat - in order to survive.

For the same reason I'm not judging people eating meat, because that's a bit like judging a tiger for eating his food, which would be silly.

People who hunt for food or forestmen who kill off sick animals or whatever don't bother me. It's people who hunt for "sport" or "fun" that bother me. People who don't have to, but CHOOSE to kill for fun. And don't tell me that it's not the killing that they enjoy - because killing the animal is the goal of hunting. And it's usually killing an animal that can only run away and that won't shoot back at you, which makes it just more disgusting and pathetic in a way...

I realise that there are people who were brought up like this, that their fathers taught them hunting since they were teens or kids even, probably mainly in the countryside in the US. They got used to it and they view it as normal, just the way my countryside grandma views beheading a rooster as a normal way of getting food.

I never asked how she felt about killing animals she had since they were little. I'm guessing that she simply got used to that, just like majority of farmers, I guess. I do think that it decreases the level of empathy of people living in the countryside that they have for both wild and farm animals (that's what I've observed, at least), but that's a subject for another discussion.

However, I've never noticed my grandma being "elated" about killing her farm animals. The only thing she was "elated" about was the fact that we're going to have a good chicken soup lol

But notice that in our discussion in Random PrzelotnyPtak didn't write that he's hunting for food or to control the deer population - that it simply has to be done. He wrote that he feels "elated" about it and was writing some bullsh1t about feeling close to nature and God.

And as far I remember you wrote about killing an animal being "self-cleansing"?? WTF???

So, my problem is with people who want and choose to kill animals PERSONALLY, who want to take life with their own hands, even though they don't have to and they ENJOY it. And they must ENJOY it, because they wouldn't be doing it, if they didn't enjoy it. It's not like anyone is forcing them to put a bullet or an arrow into an animal.


So what "meaning" are you giving to killing a bear? You can eat deer, rabbit, pheasant, etc., but what's the point of killing a bear nowadays?


Exactly...

Life / Which animals are native to Poland? [103]

@pawian, that's a nice blue colour :)


We found it once in a river near my grandma's village when I was a kid or a teen. We simply called it "małż". Btw, some women call their husbands in such a humorous way, because in Polish one of the words for a husband is "małżonek" :)


lol

History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]


Yes, but his view is that of an outsider since he grew up in the UK. I didn't read his books, so that's all I can say, I'm afraid...

Here's a positive Polish review of one of his books though:

histmag.org/adam-zamoyski-polska-opowiesc-o-dziejach-niezwyklego-narodu-966-2008-recenzja-12594


I guess it depends on the context. What kind of passion did he mean? In romantic relationships? Being passionate about some cause? As a general personality trait?

The same with "romantic" - does Atch mean that Poles aren't romantic in relationships or from a historical point of view?

Life / Stubborn Polaks, anyone knows? [77]


It must have been passed on you too then, considering you claim you have Polish roots lol 🤦

History / Not proud of my Polish heritage [110]


I'm glad that I made you laugh :))


This won't be the last time you did that on this forum ;D

Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [402]

@pspana, I don't know about "szpejna", I only know that there's a slang word "szpej" which means "equipment, gear, tools" - stuff like this:

pl.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/szpej

I have no idea where this word comes from and how old it is though.


There's a Polish surname "Szpejna", so not necessarily.

There are also other Polish surnames beginning with "szpej", btw:

szpejankowski.eu/index.php/pisownia-nazwiska.html

Po polsku / Karma zawsze (zwykle?) wraca - przykłady z życia [62]


To nie tylko problem służb, ale też polityków i urzędników, którzy się tych służb nie słuchają:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/prezydent-duda-znow-dal-sie-nabrac-pranksterom-byly-oficer-agencji-wywiadu-to-kuriozum-6836697841584800a

"Druga sprawa - jak wskazuje ppłk Faliński - to świadomość wspomnianych osób, ale i urzędników niższego szczebla. - Brak świadomości zagrożenia, że takie sytuacje mogą się zdarzyć, to problem nie tylko tej ekipy czy poprzedniej, ale mam wrażenie, że to problem polskiej klasy politycznej i polskich urzędników. Bardzo trudno się z nimi o tym rozmawia. Są oporni, nie potrafią zrozumieć zagrożeń podczas szkoleń, które służby specjalne organizują w naszym kraju - mówi. I dodaje: - Podczas mojej wieloletniej kariery wielokrotnie się z tym spotykałem."


"Debil"?

History / Not proud of my Polish heritage [110]

@marion kanawha, welcome! :)


This forum is not like other forums... It's "special" (meaning - not normal lol) with "special" rules which sometimes are applied and sometimes they aren't based on... often noone knows what exactly... lol


If you stick around more will shock you, I promise lol

I'm afraid PF is all about the survival of the rudest or the most thick-skinned. It's "Lord of the Flies" in the form of an internet forum.

I thought you should be warned :)

Polonia / Tak Tak - Polish Deli (in Berlin) [34]


Be careful what you wish for - this dish can be addictive :D ;D

Polonia / Tak Tak - Polish Deli (in Berlin) [34]


You'll probably have to visit some Poles at their home then :P ;) Or go to bar mleczny in Poland - it's like a diner with very cheap, everyday homemade-like Polish food.


I'm not sure, I don't remember... 🤔 To be honest, due to COVID-19 I still try to avoid crowded places and when I'm at a shopping mall I jump in, buy what I need and jump out, so I'm not looking around much...

These days you can buy some ready-made Polish food at supermarkets, but it's usually never as good as the homemade stuff (or often nowhere near as good, really). At least that's my experience.

Btw, as for sausages there's a traditional Polish dish that I think everyone in my family likes - biała kiełbasa z cebulą - white sausage with onion (biała kiełbasa is similar to German Weisswurst). It's fried-stewed with onion which creates a kind of onion sauce and it makes the sausage soft, juicy, aromatic and tasty. In a more traditional recipe you add beer to that sauce :):



Simple and yummy :)

Polonia / Tak Tak - Polish Deli (in Berlin) [34]

@Bratwurst Boy, yes, exactly, but schabowy, bigos or barszcz z uszkami isn't anything exotic for Poles :)


For Poles Polish home cooked food usually means - the best :))

Polonia / Tak Tak - Polish Deli (in Berlin) [34]

@Bratwurst Boy, I may be generalising - my family and friends don't order Polish food to home, because we can make it at home ourselves (so I don't see it as "sad" ;)). Of course in Poland you can also order Polish food take-aways, but I'm guessing it's usually done by people who don't have the time to cook their own meals at home.

Polonia / Tak Tak - Polish Deli (in Berlin) [34]

@Bratwurst Boy, I don't know about Germany, but in Poland Poles usually cook their dishes at home. When they order something to eat at home, it's usually pizza or sth exotic.

Polonia / Tak Tak - Polish Deli (in Berlin) [34]


Then you should like bigos, I guess... There's both sauerkraut and sausage in it ;D

Polonia / Tak Tak - Polish Deli (in Berlin) [34]


I thought that Germans like sauerkraut :P

Law / Bus ticket fine in Poland (Warsaw) - what if I don't pay the fine? [36]

@jon357, I disagree, my mother once wrote an explanation and she didn't have to pay the fine.

Life / Polish film and serial riddles [137]


"Chasing Adam"?

Life / Polish film and serial riddles [137]

"A Short Film About Killing" by Kieślowski?

Polonia / Polish bus crash in Croatia. Is there a fate? [229]

@Alien, how so? What does it have to do with fate? There's a war over our border...

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

I haven't watched it either, but based on his looks the first thing that came to my mind was also:


🙂

Study / Various education and school issues in Poland. Opinions, stories, controversies. [1006]

@Alien, that's a rather superficial view, imho.

Life / Class system in Poland - does it exist? [90]

@Kashub1410, you're putting words into my mouth. That's not fair.


I didn't claim that. What is wrong with you today?

Life / Class system in Poland - does it exist? [90]

@Kashub1410, the fact that a person who has been trained and prepared his entire life for something doesn't mean that he can't be a human scum or a bad leader. To believe otherwise would be exactly that - fantasy and wishful thinking.


A simple worker can be well educated and have great leading skills, but life could force him to take up such a job. At the same time someone born into a noble or rich family may be either too lazy or too stupid to lead or to take over family business.

Of course, usually the better someone is prepared for some role the better he or she will be at what they're doing, but these days you don't have to have noble roots to do that.

Life / Class system in Poland - does it exist? [90]


Sorry, but what does it have to do with my statement that for me someone's character and deeds are more important than what social class they belong to?


You sound very elitist. All kinds of groups are needed for society. What does it mean "better" for society? Are nobles better for society than factory workers? Or than doctors? Than firefighters? Someone can view nobility as a group of parasites, who didn't work for what they own. I'm not talking that much about Polish nobles nowadays since a lot was taken from them by communists. On the other hand, they didn't work for what they owned in the past either though.

Life / Class system in Poland - does it exist? [90]

@Kashub1410, but we weren't discussing traditions in general. We were discussing szlachta/nobility. So why did you twist it into an unfair and untrue conclusion that I don't value traditions, customs or knowledge in general? Bad, boy, Kashub1410, bad boy! lol I thought you're better than this.


Oh... Now that's a plot twist! lol ;D

Life / Class system in Poland - does it exist? [90]


Wow, that's a very arrogant and self-centred thing to say. Sorry, but traditions, customs and knowledge are not restricted only to nobility.


What law and who is that king of Poland? lol

Life / Class system in Poland - does it exist? [90]

I agree with Lenka.


Being part of szlachta often wasn't any kind of achievement - because people were simply born into it. Also, being part of nobility didn't give anyone automatically noble character. So I'm not sure what's your point and what you fret about so much. I don't consider people with noble roots to be better than others. For me personally character and deeds are more important than titles.


No, it doesn't o_O

Love / Do majority of Polish women wear very skimpy outfits like super short buttcheek shorts out in public? [22]

@Cargo pants LOL
On the contrary - overweight people feel less cold, because they have a lot of fat that keeps them warm. That's why it's the slim people that feel the cold more.

Love / Do majority of Polish women wear very skimpy outfits like super short buttcheek shorts out in public? [22]

It depends on the situation or occasion. If you work at some office/corpo with a dress code then you have no choice and you have to put on the office wear, but if you go on shopping or you're a college student you put a pair of jeans and a sweater if it's cold. During winter I also often put on a pair of leggins under my trousers, because I'm a zmarzluch lol 🥶

Love / Do majority of Polish women wear very skimpy outfits like super short buttcheek shorts out in public? [22]

@Somchai200, it's getting colder and nobody will be wearing skimpy clothes now, so I'm afraid you'll have to wait till summer to see for yourself.

I've never been to the US, so I can't compare. What I've noticed based on what I saw on TV was that it seems that American women are more likely to wear blouses, T-shirts or dresses with pretty big cleavages. Even at work which would be usually a "no no" in Poland. But that's pretty much all I can say, I guess.


Well, that's defenitely not happening where I live in Poland (the Holy Cross region).