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Bus ticket fine in Poland (Warsaw) - what if I don't pay the fine?


Christos 1 | 2    
30 Aug 2017  #1
Hello!

I've recently decided to visit Warsaw for my vacations, and of course i rode a bus, unfortunately though during my drive an inspector decided to show up, and also unfortunately for me i didn't had a ticket since i didn't know where to buy one and i didn't had my credit card with me to buy one from the machines which for some strange reason they only accept credit cards which i was not carrying with me, he then dragged me out and asked me for my ID card which i provided him with my passport, he wrote my last name wrong but everything else was right like passport number and my first name, he only filled those he gave me my fine and then i left.

What happens if i decide not to pay for that ticket since i will be leaving the countries in a few days and i do not want to get into the trouble of converting euro to zlotty yada yada yada

Thanks!
jon357 64 | 14,382    
30 Aug 2017  #2
What happens if i decide not to pay for that ticket

Are you from an EU country? If so pay it, or you will be hit by the costs of a Polish court decision and possibly court and enforcement costs in your home country. These are likely to be many times the cost of the original ticket.
OP Christos 1 | 2    
30 Aug 2017  #3
How do i pay? Can i pay in euros?
jon357 64 | 14,382    
30 Aug 2017  #4
Can i pay in euros?

No, in PLN. Go to a kantor or use a cash machine. You can probably pay by card too.
OP Christos 1 | 2    
30 Aug 2017  #5
And where do i pay exactly? They only gave me a fine ticket and a bank account. Is there anyway that i can pay in cash in an office or something?
jon357 64 | 14,382    
30 Aug 2017  #6
There are offices in several of the tube stations. Ratusz Arsenal, Centrum (in the mid level gallery between street level and platform level - use the central entrance if you're coming from the south), Pl. Wilsona and others.

There can be queues.
GlobalTravelGuy    
14 Nov 2017  #7
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Bus Ticket Fine



Hello everyone!

Recently I received a bus ticket fine before 2 hours of leaving Warsaw. I didn't have any money on me to buy a ticket and I was going to my apartments to get the baggage and go to the train station.

The question is, will it be okay if I left Warsaw and didn't pay the bus ticket fine?

And my country is not in the European Union.
bilalbutt462    
26 Jun 2018  #8
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Bus ticket fine in Warsaw



We two guys went from Germany to Warsaw Poland ten days ago. The day we arrived there at Modlin Airport, we bought train ticket to Chopin airport and were told by the ticket office that we don't have to Stamp/Validate our tickets. If the ticket inspector will come, he/she will do by himself. so same thing happened and checker came in the middle of journey and stamped our ticket with his machine. Then we bought bus ticket from Airport to City center (centrum) to get to our hotel. The moment I got in the bus, I asked one guy do we have to validate or get this ticket stamped. if yes, then from where and how? He replied, you didn't validate your ticket ? As we and that guy to whom I asked got in the bus from the same stop. Anyways, I replied No and I need your help to validate it. He said show me your passport and now you will have to pay 338 polish zloty penalty. In short, he got us down from bus in a very insulting way and called the police. As I refused to pay the penalty fee.

In about 15--20 mins, Police came and snatched our passports and refused to listen to us. After denial of multiple requests, we both paid in total of 338 polish zloty and then got our passport back.

Just needs to know is it justified to behave or ripe-off like that ? Furthermore, one of us is a PhD student but the payment was made from my credit card and I am not a student. It bothers me a lot to pay the fine in this way. Any sincere advice would be appreciated please.
G (undercover)    
26 Jun 2018  #9
So you had no vaild ticket, wasted time of police that might be needed elsewhere and now expect... what ? A hug ?

After denial of multiple requests

Requests of... ?
kaprys 1 | 1,606    
27 Jun 2018  #10
ztm.waw.pl/?c=110&l=2
scroll down for information about fines

A normal fine is over 260 zł. If you pay the ticket inspector it goes down to 160 zł. That makes 320 zł for two people but they had to call the police which usually makes the fee higher - much higher so you didn't pay that much.

And you need to show your ID.
Didn't you get a receipt?
Dougpol1 27 | 2,573    
27 Jun 2018  #11
In Britain it used to be that you got a criminal record if you were caught without a ticket. I guess it's now a spot fine as well, to cut costs. The criminal record bit concentrated the mind though!
delphiandomine 85 | 17,652    
27 Jun 2018  #12
it used to be

Still is in some cases, though there are some discussions about decriminalising it completely. It's nonsense that it can be seen as a criminal rather than civil matter.

but they had to call the police which usually makes the fee higher - much higher so you didn't pay that much.

Getting the police involved is actually a wise idea, because there's no guarantee that they're genuine inspectors. At least in Poznań and Wrocław, there's no additional fee for doing so, and from what I remember, there were issues in Berlin with fake inspectors.
kaprys 1 | 1,606    
28 Jun 2018  #13
I don't know what it's like in Warsaw but where I am bus inspectors need to inform the driver on entering the bus (he blocks the kasowniki) and show their IDs.

There's also an additional fee for calling the police and changing the bus route. On two occassions I have seen a bus drive to local police stations (and changing its route) because someone wouldn't accept a fine. Imagine how thrilled the rest of the passengers were.
Sososos1234    
31 Mar 2019  #14
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I got a fine for not having a bus ticket in Warsaw, Poland - what can I do?



Hello

I'm a tourist traveling in warsaw for the second day after I landed yesterday. I bought the ticket from the ticket machine for the bus, after I paid I got the white paper from the machine and I thought that is the ticket. I didn't know that the ticket has to be the small one only.

I got on the bus without validating it cause that white paper doesn't seem to fit in. Then after a few minutes, the ticket inspector comes, I give her the white paper and she didn't say anything. She's just busy with fining the lady in front of me.

After arrived at the stop, the inspecter got off the same stop as me and she said that I have to pay for the fine for 160 zloty even if I said that I got the white paper. She said that it was just the receipt and I don't have the ticket. I said that I don't know, i already paid for it and all I got is just the white paper and it isn't even in English. She doesn't listen and said that if I don't pay now, I have to pay for 260 zloty something. I told her I want to go to the office cause I don't trust her, so she issued the fine for me and it was 190 zloty and I have to pay at the office instead.

Is there anything I can do? I didn't know that there's only one type of ticket which is the small one. The last time that I buy the ticket I didn't get the white paper. This isn't fair at all. How was I supposed to know?

What if I don't pay for the fine? Is anything going to happen to me? I'm not from EU country or UK and I'm planning to go to other countries around here by bus within the few days. My flight back home isn't from Warsaw too, I'm planning to fly back home from Berlin. Are they going to record anything in my Schengen? Please help.

Thank you
jon357 64 | 14,382    
31 Mar 2019  #15
Is there anything I can do?

No.

What if I don't pay for the fine?

Pay it.
Cargo pants - | 3    
1 Apr 2019  #16
I got the white paper from the machine and I thought that is the ticket.

Sometimes in some machines the receipt comes out from the front slot and the original ticket falls in a slot below the machine,so my guess is that you picked the receipt and didnt pick the ticket,so the inspector was right.I had the same mistake once but luckily no inspector caught me.


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