Bogznami 1 | 7 17 Sep 2018 #1As far as I know, everyone in my family lineage is from Poland. Specifically, we are from southern Poland in the region between Zakopane and Krakow.As I got older I began to get curious about my history. I wanted to see my lineage and where I came from to help me better understand who I am. What I have found has been underwhelming at best and disappointing at worst.Since I was not able to trace my family genealogy very far, my attention quickly turned to examining the entire nation of Poland instead. From my personal investigation into the history of Poland, I have found very little to be proud of. There are almost no national heroes of Poland. There are almost no Poles who contributed significantly to the world in terms of science or culture. No, Copernicus was NOT Polish so don't even start with that garbage because you just make desperate fools of yourselves claiming he was. Most of Polish history is interpreted by me as rather pathetic. I perceive us as a people who are not able to build society ourselves. We are followers. If we want to approach something of success we have to take direction from others. Even at the height of Poland's power, Poland had to import Germanic people and Jews to help the economy run. The ethnic Poles at this time were simple farmers or craftsmen...none of us possessed the ability to truly drive the economy. We count on the favors of others, specifically the Germans, English, and the United States to help us get through every issue. There are so many examples of Polish leaders begging for handouts or favors that is makes me so sick. Even the establishment of Poland seems like it was granted to us, and not that we went and fought for it and secured it for ourselves. All of Polish mentality is always to emigrate from Poland to Germany, England, or the United States to live a better life because we can't build Poland into what we want it to be. I question if we even have the imagination to know what we want Poland to be. It is all seriously pathetic.I'm not trying to hate Polish people. I just don't see where the pride comes from. I instead see a bunch of arrogant morons who are in denial. The hatred many Poles have of Germans is purely as a result of our envy of them for being more capable and more successful. Germanic achievements and industriousness are like a mountain compared to Poland's. Nobody wants to see Poland succeed more than me. Believe me. But we need to start by being honest with ourselves.I'm not expecting any fruitful discussion here. I know what it's like trying to reason with Poles since I am one and my entire family is Polish. It is very frustrating trying to get anything accomplished. There are some exceptions, but most Polish I know are eternally stubborn, stupid, and lack the courage to be honest. Conversations with them are just circular reasoning. They will never admit to being wrong, they fail to see the big picture, and they go off on tangents instead of addressing the core arguments. I have met other self hating Poles in the past and I didn't understand why until now. It really really pains me to say the stuff I am saying but I feel I have to say it because I feel it is the truth.Even today, I don't see anything promising for the future of Poland. Poland is still a welfare state of the EU. We are once again begging the EU for money and begging the United States for military protection against Russia. When will it end?Does anyone agree with me here? How do you guys perceive our history? What is responsible for our shortcoming? What do you see when you look toward the future?