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Are you proud of Polish colours?


pawian 159 | 9,463
2 May 2012  #1
Do you display Polish colours on 1, 2, 3 May?

No?

Wrong!

These three days are good dates for Polish flag waving.

History of red and white symbols of Poland:

Uncrowned white eagle on red field is traditional COA of Wielkopolska region. Eagle on flag and COA is patterned after sigillum of King Przemysł II from 1295. Przemysł II (1257-1296) was a member of Piast Dynasty and Duke of Wielkopolska since 1277. That was period of feudal partition of Poland. Przemysł II united under his rule Wielkopolska and East Pomerania in 1294. In 1295 he was crowned in Gniezno as King of Poland - first crowned ruler of Poland since more then two hundred years. Assassinated by Brandenburgans in 1296, Przemysł II remains a person symbolizing the state-building role of Wielkopolska region and the contribution of Wielkopolska into restoration the Kingdom of Poland. He was also the last ruler of Poland residing in Wielkopolska - after his death, the political centre of Poland moved to Cracow. Trapezial shape of flag is patterned after XVI Century banners of Polish lands.

The king is said to first set the red and white for Polish colours.

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Next, at the battle of Orsza 1514

Also during Swedish wars in 17 century

And finally, on 3 May 1792, Warsaw ladies wore white dresses decorated with crimson ribbons. Could look like that:

TBC

Napoleon times (early 19 century):

Some cavalry units had patriotic uniforms: Poland uniform old

but flag`s colours were upside down!

turystyka.iceportal3cms.pl/198/rekonstrukcja-bitwy-pod-raszynem-1809/333/v61/
monia 3 | 212
2 May 2012  #2
I am very proud :)

I always hang a Polish flag in front of my house on the 3-rd of May not before , also on the 11-th of November and on the 1-st of August on the national day of remembrance of the Warsaw Uprising .
sascha 1 | 826
2 May 2012  #3
that kind of pride in germany not possible. it would provoke comments and gossiping with good dose of anger...of course there are exceptions like in all societies...
beckski 12 | 1,617
2 May 2012  #4
It rained earlier today. I was outdoors with my beautiful umbrella. It has both the Polish flag colors and eagle:)
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
2 May 2012  #5
Polish Flag Day (2nd May) is still not widely known acorss the US Polonia, but PolAms proudly display the flag at various functions, not only at Chicago's famous 3rd of May parade. cntions. Some fly a Polish and American flag in their front or back gardens. Contrary to official Polish flag etiguette (the bandera business etc.) most Polonians seem to prefer the flag with the eagle emblem (ensign).
OP pawian 159 | 9,463
2 May 2012  #6
that kind of pride in germany not possible. it would provoke comments and gossiping with good dose of anger...

Really? In one of my textbooks there is a photo of German fans wearing your national colours....
sascha 1 | 826
2 May 2012  #7
ok, i was not thinking about sports, but a la usa flagg in front of the house....

nice trivia to that, hollywood has the guideline to put the us flagg in every film and if they do so, they get money from uncle sam...
Ozi Dan 26 | 569
3 May 2012  #8
History of red and white symbols of Poland:

Hi Pawian. I understood the white on red symbolised a white sky over blood tinged earth? Is this right?

Do you display Polish colours on 1, 2, 3 May?

Does my red tie on a white shirt count?
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
3 May 2012  #9
Hi Pawian. I understood the white on red symbolised a white sky over blood tinged earth? Is this right?

That's the sad thought that occurred to me when I thought about the flag some weeks ago. Is it actually why the flag is that colour? Surely not.
Ironside 48 | 9,704
3 May 2012  #10
I understood the white on red symbolised a white sky over blood tinged earth? Is this right?

Not really, its simply colors from the state emblem.
What those colors symbolize - beats me - it is a question of interpretation.
I was told - honor and courage.
Funky Samoan 2 | 181
3 May 2012  #11
Really? In one of my textbooks there is a photo of German fans wearing your national colours....

Did you guys know that the German republican black, red and gold flag was first displayed alongside the Polish white and red colors at the Hambacher Fest in 1832? German and Polish patriots together were demonstrating for the freedom of their nations.

Here is a German stamp that remembers this incident:

Stamp Hambacher Fest
OP pawian 159 | 9,463
3 May 2012  #12
Hi Pawian. I understood the white on red symbolised a white sky over blood tinged earth? Is this right?

Never heard of it. :):):)
No, to the best of my knowledge, it is connected with the white-tailed eagle against accidentally chosen red background.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-tailed_Eagle

Eagle

Some historians/biologists claim that it was the golden eagle that was copied onto the Polish coats of arms:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Eagle

However, it is extremely interesting that Poles made their national symbol white

Flag of Poland

while other countries have it black or brown.

Russia
Germany
Mexico
Albania
Austria

Did you guys know that the German republican black, red and gold flag was first displayed alongside the Polish white and red colors at the Hambacher Fest in 1832?

Holy shyt! I didn`t know about it!

That was right after the November Uprising 1831. Germans showed a lot of sympathy to Polish insurgents who crossed the Russian-Prussian border after the defeat. Poles were welcomed as heroes who dared to challenge the tyranny.

What wonderful time coincidence! Red and white were officially declared Polish national colours during the November Uprising!

During the uprising, the Sejm realized the need for unified national insignia that could be used by the Polish military. On February 7, 1831 it adopted white and red, the tinctures (colors) of the Polish and Lithuanian coats of arms, as the national cockade of Poland. The white-and-red cockade was henceforth worn by Polish soldiers in the November Uprising, as well as by participants of the Kraków Uprising of 1846, Polish freedom fighters in the Grand Duchy of Posen and the Austrian Empire during the Spring of Nations of 1848, and Polish insurgents during the January Uprising of 1863-1864. White and red colors were also used by civilians to show their protest against the Russian rule, as well as by people in France, Britain, Germany, Belgium and other countries as a sign of their sympathy with the Polish cause

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sascha 1 | 826
3 May 2012  #13
eagle

the german is the nicest ;)

Holy shyt! I didn`t know about it!

yes of course. that is the old german reichsflagge, actually based on the students uprises at that time who were sick and tired of a divided country in x republics....

Germans showed a lot of sympathy to Polish insurgents who crossed the Russian-Prussian border after the defeat. Poles were welcomed as heroes who dared to challenge the tyranny.

prussia has a special place in german and polish hearts. there is too much in common...
Funky Samoan 2 | 181
3 May 2012  #14
yes of course. that is the old german reichsflagge, actually based on the students uprises at that time who were sick and tired of a divided country in x republics....

No, the black, red and golden flag goes back to the "Lützowsches Freichorps". A Prussian guerrilla unit that fought against the Napoleonic troops in 1813. The used black uniforms with red and golden knobs and German nationalism with a strong anti-French sentiment as ideology.

They used these colors on their uniforms because the colors of the eagle of the Holy Roman Empire (of the German nation) were black, red and gold.
sascha 1 | 826
3 May 2012  #15
Funky Samoan

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagge_Deutschlands

here's all about that flagg
OP pawian 159 | 9,463
3 May 2012  #16
german is the nicest ;)

Of all black eagles.

Polish is the nicest of all white ones. :):):):):):):):)
Ozi Dan 26 | 569
4 May 2012  #17
I've done some googling.

There appears to be a concensus that the white colour represents peace. Red seems to represent blood shed for Poland, and/or gallantry, bravery etc.

Have a look at worldflags101.com
OP pawian 159 | 9,463
4 May 2012  #18
There appears to be a concensus that the white colour represents peace.

Nope. White represents chastity, honesty, truth. Those virtues were more popular than peace in the chivalric Middle Ages . :):):)

Red seems to represent blood shed for Poland, and/or gallantry, bravery et

Nope. Red colour was the most expensive one to get in those times therefore the crimson background represents sumptuousness.
monia 3 | 212
4 May 2012  #19
Originally a Polish national flag was in crimson color, which is the symbol of grandeur and wealth, and also considered the noblest of colors. Due to the price of the dye - cochineal extracted from larvae the Polish few could afford it, so it was used only by the richest nobles and dignitaries.

The first flags and banners representing the Polish Kingdom could see a white eagle with a crown on a red background. Jan Dlugosz describing the preparations for the Battle of Grunwald writes of "the great banner on which was elaborately embroidered white eagle with wings and with a crown on his head, as the emblem and the emblem of the whole of the Polish Kingdom" .

White and red were considered to be national colours for the first time in May 3, 1792.

Maybe some of you find it interesting to read , some facts about Polish flag waving atop the Reichstag .

economist/blogs/easternapproaches/2012/05/polish-flag
beckski 12 | 1,617
4 May 2012  #20
White and red were considered to be national colours for the first time in May 3, 1792

That's interesting to learn. Thank you for the information.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
5 May 2012  #21
Over the last few days there has been a lot of celebrations associated with the national colours, including the 3 of May:



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_May_3,_1791


Mazsolika - | 9
5 May 2012  #22
Yes I'm very proud of my national colours and even sometimes I dress on this way... but to say the truth usually my husband first notices it than me cos I don't do it on purpose... I love red and white colour and I do really think that they are one of the most beautiful ones, and look good together. As I am thinking about it now, I believe that it would be a very good idea for all emigrants like me who miss a lot their motherlands to wear sth white and red these days (1st-3rd of May).

I don't know if you know but the 2nd of May is the Day of Polish National Flag from 2004.
OP pawian 159 | 9,463
18 May 2012  #23
Polish symbols during WW2

Poland, 1939

France, 1940

France

Great Britain, 1940

Great Britain, 1942

GB 2

Soviet Union, 1943

Monte Cassino, Italy, 1943

Warsaw Uprising 1944

Warsaw War

New Polish German border, 1945

Poland German border 1945

Berlin, Brandenburg Gate, 1945, next to the Soviet flag.
isthatu2 4 | 2,708
18 May 2012  #24
Interesting stuff Pawian.
Have a look at this Postcard from the 1850s... Polish Lancer of course, the Czapka,the Pennon..the red and white..!!...
Nope, Her Brittanic Majness Queen Vicky's 17th Lancers at the time of the Crimean War against Ivan :)



OP pawian 159 | 9,463
21 May 2012  #25
Nope, Her Brittanic Majness Queen Vicky's 17th Lancers at the time of the Crimean War against Ivan :)

After Napoleonic wars, Brits realised how useful lancer units might be and created their own ones, copying the Polish example.

Whilst in India, the British Army nominally re-classified the 17th as lancers,[12] and added "lancers" as a subtitle to its regimental designation in 1822.[2] The 17th did not learn of its new status until 1823, when, during a stopover at Saint Helena on its journey back to Britain, a copy of the Army List was obtained.[12] Although the weapon's use had endured in parts of continental Europe,[13] the lance had not been in British employ for more than a century.[14] Its reintroduction by the Duke of York, Commander-in-Chief of the British Army, owed much to the performance of Napoleon Bonaparte's Polish Uhlans.[15] The lancer regiments adopted their own version of the Uhlan uniform, including the czapka-style headdress.[16]
Mr Mateusz - | 1
20 Jun 2012  #26
the german is the nicest ;)

Ah, correction, the Polish is indeed, the best.
OP pawian 159 | 9,463
21 Jun 2012  #27
Polish flag after WW2.

It was often soaked with blood of workers killed by communist puppets.

Poznań Revolt, 1956

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Radom Revolt, 1976

Solidarity 1980 Strike

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homepage.mac.com/zbigniew/stan_wojenny_006.html

Most modern military equipment lost their Polish signs, with the exception of aircraft

Poland military aircraft

These Polish traditional signs are objected to by military experts as too bright. There has been a discussion going on.... But Poles are devoted to tradition.....

Modern foreign directors of historical films don`t know what Polish flag they should use in scenes with Poles.

E.g., September 11 1683, Polish hussaria charge under this ..... flag:

hahahahaha

Here is the most proper display of the Polish flag - at the Baltic Seaside!


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