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The long and proud links between Polish and American Muslims


delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
29 May 2017  #1
A beautiful article here about the links between Muslims in Poland and Muslims in New York.

rferl.org/a/lipka-tatar-community-brooklyn-poland-baltic/28513760.html

The links between Polish and American Muslims should be celebrated, and should be enhanced with cultural exchanges, scholarship programmes for Muslim children and young adults and official events in Washington and Warsaw as well as in their traditional lands. Both sides have a lot to offer each other, and they can help to dispel the myths that surround Muslims in both countries.

With time, we can hope that both communities will grow, build new mosques and that their community will continue to go from strength and strength.
spiritus 67 | 663
30 May 2017  #2
With time, we can hope that both communities will grow, build new mosques and that their community will continue to go from strength and strength.

Or Poland can celebrate the tatar muslims who have been in Poland for centuries but ensure no further muslims enter Poland.

Lol. You guys are not even trying to be subtle now lol
jon357 63 | 14,122
30 May 2017  #3
Muslims in Poland

The Lipka Tatars have a long and very rich history here. Henryk Sienkiewicz had Lipka Tatar blood on his father's side.

no further muslims enter Poland

As part of the EU, several million have the right to settle here already. I don't see any rush of people coming in, and those who do settle certainly seem to make a go of things here..

As I understand it, the Polish government have recently honoured one of the local Imams (I think a Lipka Tatar) with an award. There's also a resurgence of interest in traditional Lipka cuisine here.
johnny reb 17 | 3,669
30 May 2017  #4
they can help to dispel the myths that surround Muslims

Which myths are you referring to, the ones about how to properly beat your wife or how they don't use toilet paper and only use their bare hand to wipe themselves ?

Please share with us your personal list of what you think some of these myths are as they may not be myths at all.
Maybe start with the proud links of marrying pre teen girls in arranged marriages or buggering little boys as being acceptable in their culture.
Geesh, why did I even take the bait.
idem - | 135
30 May 2017  #5
With time, we can hope that both communities will grow, build new mosques and that their community will continue to go from strength and strength.

...and they 'lived happily ever after'- I think you should reduce intake of some drugs as they take you to some parallel ,fairy tale universe :-)
NoToForeigners 6 | 990
30 May 2017  #6
As part of the EU, several million have the right to settle here already.

Bull***t. As long as they've no official allowance from the Polish govt they have NO RIGHT at all to come to Poland.
idem - | 135
30 May 2017  #7
@NoToForeigners

I am afraid from legal point of view (as much we don't like this idea) Jon is correct. We are part of EU- if they hold German, French ,Swedish..... passport they can come and live in Poland any time.The same like Polish can move to Germany,France.....
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
30 May 2017  #8
they have NO RIGHT at all to come to Poland.

anyone with an EU passport can come to Poland...it works both ways..
Harry
30 May 2017  #9
Or Poland can celebrate the tatar muslims who have been in Poland for centuries but ensure no further muslims enter Poland.

Funny you should mention that, but the number of Tatars in Poland has been increasing over the last couple of years. For rather obvious reasons some of the Tatars from Crimea no longer want to live that and some of them have moved to the Bialystok region.

As for the rest of your post, I certainly do not agree with discrimination on religious grounds and I'm very glad that the kind of discrimination you propose is illegal under Polish law and indeed unconstitutional too.
idem - | 135
30 May 2017  #10
In Europe we can't really discriminate on religious grounds but at least Poland can put some control in relation to letting in illegal emigrants for which is widely criticised by EU.
NoToForeigners 6 | 990
30 May 2017  #11
@rozumiemnic
Well at least we can limit their numbers by banning so called refugees from coming here. Besides in the case of an event of bombing i am pretty sure that our govt will take meassures to deal with terrorists even if they hold EU passports. In fact it's only because of the self-destructive EU policy we are even at risk of at least one of such events.
idem - | 135
30 May 2017  #12
Self-destructive EU policy- or in other words political correctness gone mad.

I think UK is slowly waking up after Manchester terrorist attack....but unfortunately only slowly!.
NoToForeigners 6 | 990
30 May 2017  #13
@idem
Doubt it. EU Policy in a nutshell: "We leftard tollerant society do not generalise therefore we have to accept more islamists into Europe with hope that terrible acts of violence against our European citizens won't happen again. <<<KA-BOOM!!!!>>> We leftard tollerant society do not generalise therefore we have to ...."
Crow 137 | 7,595
30 May 2017  #14
So Poland`s Muslims migrate to USA. Is that about it? You think Trump would be happy and Poles would be sad?
idem - | 135
30 May 2017  #15
I think British are a bit specific nation - half European half islanders :-) and are leaving soon EU but the problem here is this big post colonial guilt. Clearly Tories will win next election as they don't have much competition with comrade Corbyn. I hope lefttards will get pushed away.

But...France,Germany,Sweden.......future looks very sad.
NoToForeigners 6 | 990
30 May 2017  #16
But...France,Germany,Sweden.......future looks very sad.

I think the future of those countries will be a mixture of Sweden and Holland. Islamic states with homos and trannies on the streets and a total lack of morality. Hell on Earth.
Harry
30 May 2017  #17
In Europe we can't really discriminate on religious grounds

At the risk of posting something related to the topic after so many off-topic posts, I think you'd find that the vast majority of American Muslims would also oppose discriminating against people on religious grounds, as, of course, would the majority their non-Muslim countrymen.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
30 May 2017  #18
Harry the point of going off topic so wildly was to draw attention to the provocative nature of this thread. It wasn't started out of interest for the topic was it?
Harry
30 May 2017  #19
the provocative nature of this thread.

Why do you feel that long and proud links between Polish Muslims and American Muslims is even slightly provocative? Are we no longer allowed to discuss Polish communities?

It wasn't started out of interest for the topic was it?

If you don't find a topic interesting, you do not need to contribute to that thread, do you? Personally I find a great many aspects of Poland interesting, including Poland's minorities. I wasn't aware of the long and proud links between Polish Muslims and American Muslims and am glad I had the chance to read the article Delph linked to. I wish we had had a chance to discuss the topic without people deliberately trying to drive the thread off topic.

the point of going off topic so wildly

So you admit that you deliberately posted off-topic posts; I wonder what the reaction from the mods to that will be, from memory intentional hijacking of threads here is very much prohibited.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,423
30 May 2017  #20
Polish Muslims in America since 1981 , good fun worth looking up their videos on you tube

I like this one as they cover the Beatles

youtube.com/watch?v=aDU8dPu4IZA


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