News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


grreat news! Thanks for the input/update.

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

History is one of those topics that gets bigger as time passes, perhaps more would be in order?

This is what happened in Canada, first important classes were dropped, then "lifestyle" classes were introduced to take the place of "book learning" -as though school isn't the BEST PLACE for BOOK LEARNING and now young people in Canada are so god damned stupid it makes my head hurt.

News / "Lack of Common Sense in Politics and Society" - political correctness in Poland [33]

excellent observations thus far gentlemen, delphiandomine excluded.

History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

the opening post

History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

Do any other sources corroborate what the op has stated?
One thing I am confident of, is without the disproportional Treaty of Versailles, WW2 would have been Europe vs Soviet Union and not what occurred.

Life / Television in Poland - embarrassingly bad? [44]

Polish t.v. is fine. The internet is taking over as far as the younger generations are concerned so media outlets know where to and NOT to invest.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


Absolutely not. I wrote no such thing, not in the least.
Look at things objectively though: the bombings of Hiroshima & Nagasaki are given consideration as possible ultimately "humane" decisions; Napolean, Julius, Hannibal, Alexander etc are celebrated but also deplored death they engineered both on the battlefield and in various cultures; Romans were known for their brutality yet are still in historians' good graces (Hollywood seems to have fallen in love with the Romans of late); Greek exploits and Persian advances are treated with measure as to the various causes and motivations; even the European genocide of North and South American native tribes, while acknowledged is often done so with a "whoops, they just didn't realize their blankets would infect a continent with small pox (a slow and torterous way to go mind you)." And Africa? Well yeah that place has had a rough millenia but it's still acceptable to rationalize the rape and pillage that has been going on there.

Every society and leader gets examined from all sides, except for when there's interaction with the Jewish narrative. I find that quite remarkable.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

There are two sides to every story in history, unless it is the story of the Jews- then there is only one story and any deviation from it is sure to draw the "racism" choir, ultimately drowning any discussion on it. I am not saying the popular accepted narrative is wrong, just that any deviation from it gets a popularized response of condemnation not seen on ANY OTHER topic in ALL of human history. The only thing comparable is denouncing Muhammad or the Koran among Islamic circles but even that is not as institutionalized as the unquestionable sanctity of all of Jewish history- I find that remarkable.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


maybe I missed it but I don't recall reading his advocating anyone be killed in his post.

Study / Top Language Schools to Work for in Warsaw? [32]


mine too, and overwhelmingly so:/

Related: Peritus and Direct-School - good to work in?


Is Direct School a Callan place? With a name like that you would imagine so.

Study / Top Language Schools to Work for in Warsaw? [32]

What does a 20 square meter office rent for in Warsaw? I know of no teachers that have set up their own businesses who have anything but regret that they hadn't done it earlier.

News / Police and priests save homeless in Poland [29]

Although it is related, maybe we could just admire what these individuals are choosing to do and not bind them to the sins of their organizations.

Life / Cannabis / Weed in Poland... How much does marijuana cost per gram and how easy is to get it? [355]

Prophetic words from ukpolska

Life / Cannabis / Weed in Poland... How much does marijuana cost per gram and how easy is to get it? [355]

30/g seems about right. I don't know what kind of quality you get for that. I have heard of some good stuff for that and have heard of some low quality leafy stuff for that price. This is all hearsay though.

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]


I would like to hear the rationale for it being taken as an insult; she either stated something factually correct or not regarding the biblical authors' use of substances. Nothing at all was mentioned of their collective character. I am not sure how her defense managed to lose the case unless the verdict was in before the trial began and all that was needed for someone to "feel" insulted:/

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

*we both know that isn't the case:)
I'm not sure I see where Doda was exhorting hatred based on religion. If I take her words at face value, they are her justification of the opinion she holds.

If someone wants to prove her wrong then so be it, but to fine people or convict them as criminals for stating something erroneous means there ought to be A LOT OF POLITICIANS AND JOURNALISTS AND CLERGY MEMBERS who are facing fines or are locked up.

That hasn't happened so the double standard is somewhat obvious. The very fact they needed language experts to discern if something was hateful or not is a CLEAR indication that intent and manipulation are really required on the receiver's behalf to "feel" insulted:

e-high five to JonnyM- that was awesome dude!

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]


isn't it clear where this can go?


what constitutes "mean words" or being "dismissive?" As another member stated, when we allow those in government to decide such things then it can only go tits up unless those in government are our moral compasses.

You seem to be arguing more the technical side of legalities and not defending the decision. I'm not attacking you but I'm using the defense of this law (I think you're doing an admirable job) as way to reflect the very problem with the law.


exactly why i'm not so sure it's a great example, extreme is extreme and even modern purification methods can be defeated by inclement weather or unexpected seepage. Suffice to say, if the writers did drink more wine than water, then Doda is probably on to something.

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]


No need to pat yourself on the back too much. I was merely biding my time until the person who made that statement to overextend their claim. I.E. YOU SPOILED MY FUN!!!

Even though it would have depended on whether one was able to access artesian wells or water table wells and to what extent run-off and (at the time) sewage seepage or agricultural seepage infected those supplies, it still would be laughable to suggest that's the only way people rehydrated themselves.

Even if you just accessed lake water or river water, it's likely they would have been able to discern which sources proved safer through natural filtration alone. On top of all that, the people of one geographic area get used to commonly occurring bacteria rather quickly. The problem arises in algal blooms and, as you mentioned or sudden or uncommonly large ecoli source contamination (something which can also occur during a fish kill due to an algal bloom or untimely turnover).


The mixing dilutes the contaminants hence there being "safe" levels of contamination accepted by most national health and safety organizations. The mixing, could also kill off contaminants if the right chemical reaction took place. That's why adding some chemicals to water disinfect it.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


let's face it, should your wish be granted, housing will be fraudulently allocated yet again. The less a corrupt system gets involved, the better.

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]


Thanks for the info.
now one can ask if that is really a sensible law. Perhaps Poles make it work by not being as retarded as Brits or Americans would be or perhaps the judicial system here prevents it from really being a problem.

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

Ironside

tell me you're joking


Then, following your way of thinking, one should face fines for making any offensive remarks in public, is that not where you're thinking leads?


is correct that water made people sick AND that the writers of the bible ONLY drank diluted spirits or simply that water DID make people sick? I ask because you presented a partial quote so I am wondering if Plastic Pole is completely correct on a part of what was written.

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]


The "Oh F*ck off" part was actually my prophecy of your reply, so please heed my directive.

Now, anyone should be able to see that "offending" someone is more up to them than it is up to you. One decides if one is offended and if one is so inclined can take great liberty with what is truly offensive and what is not. Think about how that forces people to behave: don't question religion if you're not very well spoken, you may offend someone and have to pay them money.

This isn't a Polish problem, merely the Polish expression of how freedom of speech is covertly curtailed by those in power (it appears the RCC is still in power here).


Is this a Fact or just something that religious people like to pretend is a fact if one calls into question the cultural habits of those who wrote the bible? I'm doubtful but open to hearing the explanation or source for this.

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

^ explain that one.

News / Poland fines singer for bashing Bible [159]

How can one be fined for such things?
Under what interpretation of which law?
"A Warsaw court ordered her Monday to pay a fine of 5000 zlotys (NZ$1827) for offending religious feelings." -Offending religious groups? Oh F*ck off?

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


This is the single most insightful thing I've read on this thread.

News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]


I am not sure it has to be an either/or scenario nor am I sure that other factors should be precluded based on what I know, which in this case is scant.

Having said that I can't fathom why a military prosecutor would feel the need to bear any proposed disgrace. It simply doesn't stand to reason. Military lawyers are not in the same league as the brass who go about doing disgraceful things or covering up disgraceful actions. In this case we don't know if such actions exist or if they do, to what extent.

My guess is that something much more serious than what we suspect is what lead him to do this. I have not ruled out that his life was already threatened by others wanting to keep something from seeing the light of day. That's my guess but I've nothing really to base this on other than the facts: he was a prosecutor; was privy to information we wouldn't be; stuck a loaded pistol to his head and pulled the trigger; hasn't a known history of this kind of sh*t.


I was wondering about that too but sticking a loaded pistol to your head may make you waver a bit and become weak in the wrists, the recoil could account for the glancing nature of the shot but without knowing what he was thinking, it becomes difficult to say.

News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]

You didn't state it as such:


The worrisome aspect of this is that there's a good chance you've decided your opinions are the facts instead of largely baseless speculation.

News / Polish prosecutor 'shoots self after news conference' [93]


You have no way of knowing what he was thinking beyond the literal meaning of his words nor can you be sure of his motives, you've jumped to conclusions and stated them as fact.

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


Ok you got me; it just makes it easier:) Perhaps it is more accurate to say, you can't define how big a bubble is until it has popped? Or can you?

Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]


you should be on that list of experts who haven't addressed his post. Aren't bubbles only really open to being defined after they've "popped?"