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No , it isn`t in accordance with the Constitution which states: Judges are irremovable. Paragraph 180, my dear gumi.
arslege.pl/zasada-nieusuwalnosci-sedziego/k15/a5415/
HA!

Besides, was the EU wrong when they pointed to the illegality of that move? They also have their paragraphs and Poland is obliged to stick to them. Or you want Poland out of the EU? Be sincere now....... :))

by lowering the retirement age of the judges appointed to the Sąd Najwyższy (Supreme Court, Poland) and by applying that measure to the judges in post appointed to that court before 3 April 2018 and, secondly, by granting the President of the Republic the discretion to extend the period of judicial activity of judges of that court beyond the newly fixed retirement age, the Republic of Poland has failed to fulfil its obligations under the combined provisions of the second subparagraph of Article 19(1) TEU and Article 47 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union ('the Charter').

curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=215341&doclang=EN


hahaha twisting and playing stupid, again. That`s how a discussion with a rightwinger look like. :):)

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

As I said before: You prefer to play stupid, pretending you don`t know. All these things have been also discussed in the forum at the time of their happening, so stop your false pretence. :)


Hey, can you translate this Polish into English? Or at least give a summary of what you quote? This is an English forum and we speak English and we are read by English users.

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


No, that`s one is that I said POLISH and European law. Stop manipulating again.


You really think we have run out of examples? Don`t be naive , the list is very long.

Funniest that PiS also breaks its own law. E.g., Piotrowicz and Pawłowicz who were nominated to the Constitutional Tribunal are both older than 65, which was the retirement age for Supreme Court judges introduced by PiS itself. Ha!

What about haters scandal? Judges appointed by PiS ran a hateful campaign on the Internet against independent judges. The culprits are hidden by PiS now, but still take their salaries.

Look, there are many more, I dont` have time to mention all of them, this forum isn`t the only one I attend, you are not so important as to devote so much time to you and correct your neo bolshevik views. I have really better things on my mind.

You prefer to play stupid pretending you don`t know. All these things have been also discussed in the forum at the time of their happening, so stop your false pretence. :)

It is enough to read this site run in a very professional English by professionals who oppose PiS and will do it till complete victory. :):)

ruleoflaw.pl/

This and other sites.

Neobolsheviks won`t win!

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News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


hahaha yes, that is a reform by PiS. Change the law in the middle of the term and dismiss anybody who suits. Then PiS is gravely amazed when law abiding institutions and decent citizens call it a scam. It is pathetic you support such illegal solutions.


As a neo bolshevik, you should call it counter revolution. hahaha

No, it isn`t one, it is only the defence of law which is laid down in the current constitution

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

E.g., they broke Polish and European law when they tried to remove legally appointed judges claiming they are too old. PiS was forced to withdraw from it and so they did.

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


Really must I remind you about them? You don`t remember? Of course, PiS men always deny anything. They do nothing wrong, it is the opposition and the EU which harass innocent PiS. Baranki, psiakrew... hahaha


But even ugly, you can be prettier than very ugly on condition you relax.

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

hahaha is it your new mantra? Do you always adopt such on Sunday mornings? Always the same or you change it from time to time?

Gumi, give up on that hystery of yours, anger badly affects your beauty. hahaha

Work / Is starting a language school doable in Poland [9]

Yes, I think it is a correct assessment. So it means running such a business in a small Polish town right now requires great skills and a lot of work within a few years.

This thread should stay sticky for all potential language school owners.

Life / Are Poles suspicious of Facebook? [50]

Polish mixed with English. Why?

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


Yes, I tried to use the same rhetorics on them but those right wingers are completely impervious to logical arguments. They probably want to be like the black character from your story - they want to use PiS controlled judiciary to have personal gains and profits.


But it is true. They broke the law several times and will answer for that. We don`t know everything yet but when they lose power, all their dirty machinations will be revealed. And as I said, there will be no mercy. The hydra of neo bolshevism must be burnt with hot iron to the very end. hahaha


But they will if PiS controls everything. Besides, such things are happening elsewhere. What about PiS accidents? How long have they been examining the evidence which, all of a sudden, got lost in case of Szydło accident from 2017? Two years?

Stop manipulating coz all decent people can see through it.

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


Stop twisting now. I wasn`t talking about it, I meant your dirty communist propaganda methods. Why are all PiS men such liars and manipulators? hahaha

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

oh la la you are riding high now. hahaha. It reminds me of communists who also used to warn the society of civil war provoked by Solidarity in 1981. According to communist propaganda, it was one of the main reasons to introduce martial law in December 1981 and crush independent movement.

Why are you resorting to communist methods, please? Coz PiS and their supporters are neo bolsheviks? hahaha

Besides, how can one who defends sth good be rabid? It is PiS who are rabid. You mixed the victim with the perpetrator now. But you did it on purpose, to degrade the victim. That`s another communist method - AK, zapluty karzeł reakcji.

Life / Typical Polish house and family [46]


Yes, I saw it there, I know what you mean now.
Well, the reason is Polish individualism, as usual. Poles want to live close to each other but not too close if it is possible. Such a typical Polish village makes it possible - neither too far, nor too close.

A question arises. What about cities, then? Well, in the past a lot of Polish cities were inhabited by Germans who didn`t have a problem with close neighborhood.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

Well, you need to look up in foreign media then, they are not so vitally interested in Polish affairs so they can remain objective. :):)

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


Are you serious now? Coz what you say is not even Franco or Pinochet, but Hitler and Stalin style of government. Come on, spare us this crap. :)


Of course it can, is and will be defended. Stop silly incantations, they are useless.


I am offering you arguments one by one but you pretend not to understand them. Yours is an infantile way of running a debate, you do realise it.


Darling, keep your composure. :):) Nobody is offending you so far, so you don`t need to show how hurt you are coz you are losing the debate. Ha!


We should ask you the same question, darling. :):)


Aren`t you able to talk like a man to the end, not like a spoilt child who got hurt by opposition from his parents? hahaha It is very unprofessional of you.

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

This way or another, they will have to back off again coz the EU is seriously worried the virus of PIS lack of respect for law might spread to other countries. Not only will the EU impose 2 million fine per day but also suspend funds, including those for farmers. This will cost PiS the lost elections sooner or later. If they try to rig election results to their advantage, Poland will be suspended totally and people will tear PiS apart.

Travel / Opera theatres in Krakow [5]

Wow, thanks, I had no idea about those architects. Yes, pretty buildings, indeed.
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biuro_projektowe_Fellner_%26_Helmer

History / Why are Poles/Poland disliked by Germans? [140]

Because I was thinking of Gretchen Blum.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Does it mean you are really interested in the elections? :)

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


It seems you don`t know what you are talking about as you are mixing different things now. It is PiS government and parliament which break the law. The judges, on top with Supreme Court, defend the law against maniacs and political gangsters. Remember the scandal with PiS` attempts to dismiss judges over 65? They had to withdraw from it as it was an illegal move. PiS created erroneous law and counted it would be accepted by those who are bound to keep to law.


Nothing. Why are you so excitable? :):)


Because you don`t want to. The case is clear - you are an aficionado of dictators like Franco or Pinochet and the systems they created and led for decades. If so, we will never find common ground in our discussion coz I reject them wholeheartedly.


Those silly incantations won`t help you. You are losing the debate and you know it. :):)

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

There are also less known candidates. E.g., Sławomir Grzywa. I can read his regular political declarations in online comment sections. He is against the current establishment (PiS, PO) but promises to defend democracy. He claims only he is able to defeat Duda. He runs his party - Sami Swoi.

forum.interia.pl/wizytowka-SlawomirGrzywa/aktywnosci/komentarze

youtu.be/wONndS8_lik

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I was so engaged in conversation with our temperamental friend that I forgot to add that Bob Sander`s father was a Polish Jew emigree 100 years ago.

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Just like that? Even fresh immigrants? Is it Scottish or European law? Could Scots come to Poland and similarly take part in Polish referendums?

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

Aaah. So you refuse to acknowledge that these three branches: legislature, executive, and judiciary are the pillars of democracy. It means you promote dictatorship.
Sorry, we have different goals, then. I am pro democratic coz, despite all its irritating flaws, democracy is certainly better that dictatorship.

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Wow, I just found out he was born in Krakow and attended Sobieski High School. The same as Andrzej Duda. Two Krakowians against each other. Derby of the century! hahaha


Hey, yes, I remember those photos of his dates on gossip sites. hahaha

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


Sorry but it is you who don`t know that in every democratic country there is a division of power between 3 entities. And the judiciary is one of them. PiS is trying to grab everything for themselves, but they will fail. You know about it and they too.

That is why, please.......


....... relax. :)). Stay calm, like me and Lenka. :))

PS. If I am locked up, you will be, too. We will have a lot of time to discuss politics in one cell. How do you like the idea? hahaha

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


You draw too quick conclusions. I am tolerant. I only think it is so funny that Bosak could be like that. Besides, when we used to talk about Biedroń in the past, you were very scornful about his preferences. Now, you absolve Bosak. Aren`t you a bit hypocritical now? :))


Yes, he managed to win a lot of votes for his drowning party in the last elections. Many more than expected. So his charisma, even if it had been weak, certainly has risen significantly.


Sorry, I have never read or heard such comments in Poland.

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


Nope, then it will be too late. You should also know it from the history of nations. Those who procrastinated with dealing with rogues in due time, were finally liquidated by those rogues.


Yes, we should and we do. After tragic results of communism and fascism gaining full power in various countries, people prefer to be on the safe side. That is why propagating communism and fascism is illegal in Poland. One day propagating PiSism should be also banned coz it is a very harmful system eroding the existential essence of a democratic country. :)


Let`s hope we will reach that time in good health. I wish it to you and myself and all other members of the PF. Health is the most important thing in our age. :))

News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]


Certainly not worse than Kamysz. :)


I have nothing against. :)


Yes, a little suspicious. But I won`t spread any gossip. :)


Well, maybe it isn`t so known yet, but surely the thing will be blown out of all possible proportions by PiS media.

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


The problem is the PiS government is making a neo bolshevik revolution in order to grab the whole power. I am really amazed you don`t realise simple facts. Today they are oppressing independent judges, tomorrow, if not stopped, they will oppress other independent people, also your beloved Konfederacja. Don`t you really know it from history of nations? Even if the Konfederacja candidate wins huge support one day, it will be ignored by PiS coz all the power will be theirs. "We need to repeat that voting." Do you remember who said it recently?

So, you need to understand, today judges are fighting for their freedom and ours.
The case is lost for PiS. This way or another, next year or in ten years` time, they will be taken to court to answer for their deeds. They know it and that is why they are thrashing around so desperately.