Life / Do young Polish people believe in their religion and God? [150]


Interesting that you use the word "you". Some of us, me included don't see our home that way at all. I'm not even sure I know more than a handful of churchgoers.

Life / Do young Polish people believe in their religion and God? [150]

Spot on. However it is a myth that is strongly encouraged by the same minority.

Language / Dupa - what a beautiful Polish word [103]


A friend likes playing it. Not a bad game.

Language / Dupa - what a beautiful Polish word [103]


Have you ever played the Polish card game called 'dziura w dupie'?

Genealogy / Want to find a person [770]

Is it Peter or (much more likely) Piotr, and do you know his surname?

History / Judge Tuleya mother was in SB [74]

I like his stuff too.


Spot on. They really do believe that everyone should think like them. Hence making issues about public figures due to who one of their relatives was - as if Judge Tuleya has any control over that whatsoever.

Life / Do young Polish people believe in their religion and God? [150]


As do all societies.


Very true.

I'd add that nobody should be forced or even officially encouraged to practise a religion (or celebrate rites of passage according to the beliefs of a religion) unless they personally choose to do so.

History / Judge Tuleya mother was in SB [74]

That's probably true.

History / Judge Tuleya mother was in SB [74]


Most do.


I doubt that makes much difference.

History / Judge Tuleya mother was in SB [74]


Not very relevant to his activities today.

News / Incredible news from Poland - The president shaved his moustache! [88]


Great news!

News / Incredible news from Poland - The president shaved his moustache! [88]


Are you serious?

That one's on a par with your post about "lizard people".

Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]


That's the whole point. It isn't legal yet, so the LCP is a kind of compromise. Better to legalise it to avoid such grey areas.

Travel / Greatest Old Towns in Poland [74]

Isn't there also a bit that is actually called Stare Miasto? A bit north of the Main Town.

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

Crikey! I do see what you mean though, and think this could be a very good thread if it is on topic.

Re. numbers of Poles and economic predictions, I was wondering today whether their employment prospects will be affected much by Romanians and Bulgarians coming. Eric Pickles is refusing to give an official estimate (and the last administration got egg on their faces by saying that only 14000 would come after EU enlargement) but the Daily Telegraph are predicting hordes of them.

Will they drive down prospects (and remittances) for Poles by forcing salaries down? There are a lot of highly skilled people from those countries as well as people desperate enough for work at the bottom end of the market.

Or has the post-EU Polish community begun to stabilise? And do people remit from benefits etc? And will the benefits squeeze affect that?

Also, what will happen to the Zloty? A rise would suit Polish holidaymakers but be otherwise bad for a country that exports so much.

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

No brow beating, no awkwardness - at least not from my side. But when you quote statistics, it's good to be precise. 'Recent', means recent.

If you'd clarified what you meant, instead of trying to pick an argument, all would have been avoided.

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]


Once again, it looks like you've missed the point. I suspect deliberately.

You claimed that 800,000 Poles had recently arrived. Nothing to do with total number of passport holders. In fact 45,000 have arrived over the past year and a half according to the Home Office.

For some reason you don't want to admit your mistake and are now pretending that both you and I had said something entirely different - not a surprise, since lying is something we're unfortunately used to from you here.

Sad, really.

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

As you well know, we aren't interested in the number of Poles in the UK. Nor are we interested in the number who moved to the UK since EU accession 8 years ago. We are interested in your statement


The Home office says 45,000 came between April 2011 and September 2012. Less than a tenth of the figure you said had recently arrived. The mistake you made is obvious. You included the entire post-EU entry figure.

Rather sad that you can't admit your error.

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

Warszawski, your original claim, as you well know, was


Do you still stand by that rather wild assertion, or admit it was a mistake?

Re. your question, as I've said twice before and am quite happy to repeat, the official Home Office figure for the number of Polish citizens who arrived between Spring 2011 and Autumn 2012 is already on the previous page.

By the way, re. your "anal" comment, you do realise we're talking about economic statistics? Precision and clarity of thought are paramount. If you think accuracy is "anal", you may as well mix up GDP, QE, BoE, USD etc. After all, they've all got letters in them

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

Brow beating? I think there's a bloody big difference between "have been" and "have recently arrived". You don't need to be an English Teacher (by the way, I'm not one) to see the difference.

So, were you wrong when you said


or when you started to backpedal today and pretend you'd said


??

As for winning or losing a debate, I don't see a debate. Just a hugely incorrect statement that you made and were not prepared to retract, even when called out on it

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]


You've forgotten (or deliberately omitted) a couple of small but key words from that sentence. You originally said:


So, do you mean "have recently arrived" or "have been"?

There is a big difference.

Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

That post doesn't really make much sense and certainly doesn't add anything to the discussion about people's right to a dignified death.

News / Incredible news from Poland - The president shaved his moustache! [88]

That photo makes me feel nauseous.

Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

Read the link above. It demolishes that particular, rather silly, myth. People's families do not make the decision.

News / Incredible news from Poland - The president shaved his moustache! [88]

He looks better without it.

Didn't Jarosław (or Lech, or both) once have a moustache?

Life / Advocating euthanasia routinely causes scandals in Poland... [63]

Who knows. Probably not much more or less than in the US, Poland or the UK.

Life / Poland's concord of cultures [86]

Poland always feels far less of a coastal nation and those few canals that exist aren't used nearly as much.

If you're looking for an interesting concord, England as the major part of an island has always been a great seafaring nation but lacks hardwood to build ships. For centuries it was imported from Poland, so much so that the word spruce is derived from z Prus.

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

You'll probably have to wait for a while to see figures for 2013. Out of interest, what made you think that:


?

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

As I say, check out the previous page. But first, back up your assertion that

News / Predictions about Poland for 2013 [85]

Are there any published figures for Jan 2013? Jan 2013 isn't even half way through yet! I'm surprised you need to as though, since I gave the latest figures here about an hour ago. Perhaps your short term memory is impaired. Or just selective.

Now how about something other than a journalist's private opinion to back up your assertion that


By the way, what do you regard as 'recently'? We know more or less how many came between census day 2011 and Sept, 2012. I would call that fairly recently.