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URGENT: Chechens refugees found a Islamic State in Poland


Levi 12 | 450
16 Jun 2015 #1
From Pilkio ( original in Polish ): pikio.pl/uchodzcy-o-polskim-osrodku-tu-jest-panstwo-islamskie/

Below translation:

The leaked video from Polish refugee center in Linin, showing aggressive behavior of Chechens Muslims staying there who dictate that non-Muslim refugees (Ukrainians and Georgians) must also follow Islamic principles.

On the recording we hear the Chechen refugees clash with non-Muslim refugees and trying to force them to adhere to Islamic rules regarding dress code, among others. They prohibit men walking in short trousers and women in short skirts and T-shirts during the hot weather.

At some point in the discussion, a woman says that this is the European Union and not an Islamic state and it does not apply Islamic law. To which one Chechen responds that "here is an Islamic state because Muslims live here" (in terms of a center for refugees). The woman also recognizes that all women staying at the center are called bad names, and that they were threatened.

It should be noted that guards are watching the situation at the center, they just call for calm and question of why women allow for the introduction of Islamic principles in the center, so the answer is "for the sake of peace".

In the recording we hear also a guard who admits that this is not the first time that a group of Chechens at the center imposes Islamic rule.

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My comments now:

All that happens in Poland now.

The refugee centre of Linin is already overcrowded. But Matteo Renzi, Italian prime minister, want to send a significant number of the 160 thousand fugitives that arrived JUST THIS YEAR at italy.

What you all think will be the consequences?

I think that this in the future can lead to a new partition.

Maybe with a significant Somalian/Chechen population, will be possible for claim their autonomous territory in Poland, with Sharia Law imposed, in a solution that would divide Poland between two countries, one non-Muslim and one Muslim (Like what is happening in Sudan, Philippines, Israel, Lebanon, etc etc etc)?
Gosc123456
16 Jun 2015 #2
@Levi: when are you going to stop copying-pasting any BS you find on the net? I live in Poland and follow what goes on here and guess what, medias don't say anything. This is another lie from your extremist portal friends. It is as "true" as the rainbow in Warsaw being destroyed and guarded 24/7 by police and dogs (I was in area again this morning and nothing of the sort ;); as "true" as gays being naked Inside Notre Dame Church in Paris, as "true" as that Polish woman beheaded by her Muslim husband, as "true" as etc etc....

Are you stupid enogh to believe whatever BS you find on the net? It beats me...

To finish, you should bet along well with Muslim freaks as you all intolerant, racist and homophobic ;)

"found" = past participle of to find. ;)
OP Levi 12 | 450
16 Jun 2015 #3
Why instead of insult me and do a lot of ad hominem, you dont just discuss the news as a civilized person?

I put here an article. You came, insult me, call me a lot of bad names and try to censor me. But dont say a single point about the chechens harassing non-muslims at Linin.

You are showing that you are as violent as those extremist chechens.
Atch 17 | 3,221
16 Jun 2015 #4
Maybe with a significant Somalian/Chechen population, will be possible for claim their autonomous territory in Poland, with Sharia Law imposed, in a solution that would divide Poland between two countries

What a load of old cobblers. You can't possibly compare Poland to the countries you mention. And by the way in Ireland we've had a Muslim population since the 1980s. There is no civil unrest, they never make any demands or try to impose their views, most of them left places like Iraq because they wanted to get away from poverty,political unrest and extremist forms of Islam. I've taught many Muslim children who attend Catholic schools in Ireland. The only trouble I ever had with a Muslim parent was from an Irish woman who'd converted to Islam, some nonsense about disapproving of Hallowe'en and not wanting her child to be in the Christmas play. We just said 'well take her out of the school if you're not happy'. She backed down and we heard nothing more from her.
jon357 63 | 15,214
16 Jun 2015 #5
She backed down and we heard nothing more from her.

Sometimes people who revert to Islam are much more picky about things than those who have been part of it for their whole lives.

No 'Islamic State' in Poland, which is a liberal democracy and trying hard enough to shrug off the effects of the wrong sort of religious people. I don't believe for a minute that the refugee centre is a hellhole of any sort. I do however believe that anywhere that people have had such turbulent lives that they have to flee their home may experience tensions not normally found elsewhere.
OP Levi 12 | 450
20 Dec 2015 #6
don't believe for a minute that the refugee centre is a hellhole of any sort

The fact that you dont believe at the article because it is not convenient for you (since you are, yourself, a muslim) is very expected.
jon357 63 | 15,214
20 Dec 2015 #7
Probably because it's a load of tosh, Levi.
Wroclaw1010 3 | 91
20 Dec 2015 #8
The fact that you dont believe at the article because it is not convenient for you

Must everyone agree to this cooked up story? There has been a lot of refugee camps in other countries before the one you're talking was established. How come we never heard such bigotry from those camps?
jon357 63 | 15,214
20 Dec 2015 #9
Must everyone agree to this cooked up story

I don't think anyone agrees with it. It is indeed a cooked-up story.

Not worth having a thread about it; especially one prefaced with the word 'URGENT'
Wulkan - | 3,251
20 Dec 2015 #10
Must everyone agree to this cooked up story?

It's funny how this guy who claim to be African muslim composes sentences in English in a typical way to the British users of this forum.

I do however believe that anywhere that people have had such turbulent lives that they have to flee their home may experience tensions not normally found elsewhere.

And that's your excuses for them doing something unacceptable in our society.

It is indeed a cooked-up story.

For sure and the video from this event is also made up.
Wroclaw1010 3 | 91
20 Dec 2015 #11
Not worth having a thread about it; especially one prefaced with the word 'URGENT'

It's just another hate mongering call.

It's funny how this guy who claim to be African muslim composes sentences in English in a typical way to the British users of this forum.

I'll take that us a compliment ;)

For sure and the video from this event is also made up.

It 'll sell better if you could help paraphrase what is happening in the video. Most of us don't speak Polish, remember.
Ironside 49 | 10,282
20 Dec 2015 #12
Indeed that only to be expected sooner or later, they have no calms to introduce their rules and don't care about conscience and tolerance.

I have no issue with that as long as their are not trying to do so in a Christian country.
The problem is that Christian countries are in crisis as they are under attack by a particularly viral mutation of a deadly virus - progressiveness.

Luckily Poland remained largely immune to that virus and let keep it that way. Muslims have no chance to find a foothold in Poland even though the SA seems to be trying to use and influence Polish Tatars in a vain hope that their particular religion wahhabism can be transplanted and their faith spread in Poland eventually.
Wulkan - | 3,251
20 Dec 2015 #13
I'll take that us a compliment

But it's an accusation.

It's just another hate mongering call.

Every inconvenient fact for left wingers is hate mongering call.
Crow 139 | 8,566
20 Dec 2015 #14
Nonsense. Only Slavs can found state on a Slavic ground. In Poland, Poles are owners of Poland.
jon357 63 | 15,214
20 Dec 2015 #15
It's just another hate mongering call

Quite. It's a load of cobblers from the usual suspects. There is no 'Chechen Islamic State' in Poland at all.
dolnoslask
20 Dec 2015 #16
"There is no Islamic State' in Poland at all, I have to agree, and there never will be.
Wroclaw1010 3 | 91
20 Dec 2015 #17
But it's an accusation.

My country is a former British colony. Hope that's enough reason for me to write fairly good English?

don't care about conscience and tolerance.

You can't be a Muslim if you're intolerant and unconscientious.
Ironside 49 | 10,282
20 Dec 2015 #18
You can't be a Muslim if you're intolerant and unconscientious.

If you are here to argue for Islam save yourself the bother.
Wroclaw1010 3 | 91
20 Dec 2015 #19
Did you understand the thread and your own comment?
Ironside 49 | 10,282
20 Dec 2015 #20
Do you understand yourself?
Wroclaw1010 3 | 91
20 Dec 2015 #21
All I do understand from your previous post is that you're always trying to blamestorm.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
20 Dec 2015 #22
In all civilized states, the cult called islam should be illegal.
Wroclaw1010 3 | 91
20 Dec 2015 #23
Well, opinions are like noses........
Ironside 49 | 10,282
20 Dec 2015 #24
All I do understand from your previous post is that you're always trying to blamestorm.

Did I blame you or anybody? I think you are too strung up for your own good and jumping to conclusions. All I'm saying that Islam and Christianity are incompatible and if a Muslim would like to emigrate to a Christian country he shouldn't be allowed to do so.
Wroclaw1010 3 | 91
20 Dec 2015 #25
All I'm saying that Islam and Christianity are incompatible

That is where your problem lies. You absolutely have no knowledge of Christianity otherwise you would write that. Just tell me the difference you're well aware of. Better still, I can start educating you on what Muslims and Christians have in common.

All I'm saying that Islam and Christianity are incompatible

That is where your problem lies. You absolutely have no knowledge of Christianity otherwise you wouldn't write that. Just tell me the difference you're well aware of. Better still, I can start educating you on what Muslims and Christians have in common.

I've been trying to edit the previous post.
Ironside 49 | 10,282
20 Dec 2015 #26
That is where your problem lies

No it doesn't, on the other hand you seems to have a problem with my views.
OP Levi 12 | 450
21 Dec 2015 #27
Nonsense. Only Slavs can found state on a Slavic ground. In Poland, Poles are owners of Poland.

No Crow. And Actually you should be the one here more worried and conscious about this invasion, since your own country had a piece of land stolen by this same invasion.

Probably because it's a load of tosh, Levi.

So you are saying that the VIDEO of the Chechens are made a studio?
Stop talking non-sense.
Crow 139 | 8,566
21 Dec 2015 #28
i don`t worry too much because i know how would this finish. Lost battle doesn`t mean that is war lost. We, people from Baltic, Central Europe and Balkan would finally unite and protect our specific interests. That for one. Then or in the meanwhile, all who had come to grab, would be dispatched out from our lands.
jon357 63 | 15,214
21 Dec 2015 #29
Well, opinions are like noses

Exactly and sometimes views are so strident, meretricious and ill-informed that people will seize on some nonsense and pretend that someone's founded a branch of IS in Poland - which they haven't.
OP Levi 12 | 450
21 Dec 2015 #30
Well, opinions are like noses

There is a difference between opinion and fact.

Here we have a freaking VIDEO showing Chechens harassing and beating those that refuse to convert.

And this is a fact.

An opinion is if you agree or not with that act commited by Chechens (forced conversions).

Your opinion is that you support that.
My opinion is that force conversions of others is a crime, and an absurd specially in Poland.

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