News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


As if PO-Psl didn't give all the cushy posts to theri party loyalists. Move over PO and PSL! Their reply: Oink, oink, we won't, having skimjmed, scammed and ruled for 8 years we have a God-given right to rule the roost forever more.


You've just proved once again that you talk out of the side of your mouth with a forked tongue, as Amerindians used to say. You type PIS claiming because you're too lazy to press the shift key and type it correctly: PiS, but then you use the correct abbreviation of PGNiG. In Harryesque typescript shouldn't it be PGNIG?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


There's not such person in Poland so obviously you have made it up.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


So you believe God intervenes in everything that happens on earth. He lets a lion devour a baby antelope and a fox kill a cute little rabbit. That is nature. Nature takes its own course. There are some people, like Amreica's creationists who take the Bible literally and believe God is personally repsonsible for everything that happens, but that is not the Cathlolic view. JPII clearly pointed out that faith and science complement one another rather than being at loggerheads. Evolution does not rule out the existence of a spiritual dimension.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Again PiS? ( One would really have to be a lazy bstard to forgo the lower-case "i" and type PIS!) The governemtn wants the existing compromose abortion law to continue. It enjoys majrotiy support in Polish society. There were tow citizens' drafts: one to introduce a total ban and another to allow wholesale prenatal baby-butchery on a whim. The latter was so outrageous that it was rejected outright. The former was sent to committee for further study, but when it comes to a vote, PiS will vote against it. Reintroducing the abortion debate is but another way of delaying parliamentary work just as calling for no-confidecne votes in successive ministers which are doomed to failure for lack of votes. But for the poor losers anything to undermine and harm the PiS government is fine. Even when it harms Poland, as the snitchery and calls for sanctions and ratings downgrades have. They don't harm the government, but the country as a whole by scaring away investors.


Indeed, because Catholicism is not relativism. It's you're gang of anything-goes libertines that say: if it feels good, if it's convneient, then go for it! Morality and ethics are outdated concepts.

But no matter what fancy euphemism you use like "termination of pregnancy", "induced miscarriage", "pro-choice", "planned parenthood", bla-bla-bla, the fact is that burgeoning life is hacked to pieces or has its skull crushed and brain sucked out by suction pump or they even wait till the baby is born and then go to work on it.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Typical ignorant blasphemy. Who said God intervenes in every natrural process on earth? It's like the ignorant blasphemers who said: where was God when the holocaust occurred? He was watching as his children misguidedly exercised their free will. Free will is the core and essence of Christianity.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Isn't that biased, hurray-for-our-side sexism? How can the father who instilled the seed of life be so discriminated against and marginalised with a decision taken behind his back?

Incidentally, do you also suppoort post-birth abortion. A normal, well-developed, healthy child is born and then it gets hacked to pieces.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


If a given country introduced Jew-killing rights (or similar rights affecting any other nationality or ethnicity for that matter), the backers would say it is a pro-choice situation -- no-one is forcing anybody to kill Bolivians, Norwegians or whomever. But don't you think there are people who would not want to live in a country where such "rights" existed? That is how pro-lifers feel about prenatal baby-butchery. Legalising abortion means normativsing criminal behaviour.


A question that has yet to be broached here is the following: There are extreme childbirth situations in which the life of only one side an be saved: the mother or the about-to-be-born child, and let's add a fully normal child. Which should it be? I think I know how most PF-ers will respond, but let's see what you and others think about this and why.

And another issue: unless there's been a repeat of the Immaculate Conception, how can abortion be performed without the consent of the father?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


If that is true, then it's strange you do not support or share an affinity with them. Birds of a feather... They might even create a Liar Laureate award to present to deserving Anglo-expats.

Off-Topic / What is funny about this picture? [31]


Nobody ever thought or spoke of abuse back then -- that is a modern concept where anything from a harsh word to a sour facial grimace can be called a form of abuse. The bottom line (and this pertains to all schools, not just denominational ones), if a parent got called to school over their child's unacceptable behaviour or poor grades, the parents and teacher worked as a team ot set the kid straight, and punishment usually extended to the home where the child may have been grounded or had his pocket money withdrawn for a time.

Later, when parents were called to school, they often confronted and questioned the teacher, siding with the spoilt brat. Some call that an attempt to win the confidence of the child by parents who may ply him with gifts but devote very little time or themselves to the progeny.

Off-Topic / What is funny about this picture? [31]


I'm wondering if this may not be the case of traditional Catholic discipline clashing with more permissively raised baby-boomers who couldn't take it. The pre-baby-boom generation did not judge the Catholic school as harshly as is being done on here. Baby-boomers are said to be those born after 1946.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


In other words the ongoing culture war -- pro-abortion or pro-life, holiday trees or Christmas trees, homo or normal, anti-clericalism or religious values, the patchwork or otherwise dysfunctional household v the traditonal family, PC jargon v the full, unembellished truth... The leftist-libertine side represents yet another revolutionary utopian view -- turn everything on its head and mankind will live happily ever after. Except that somewhat forgot to remind them that so far all utopias have failed: nazism, communism, eugenics, flower children, generation X, etc.

Off-Topic / What is funny about this picture? [31]


Looks more like a priest rather than a nun. Reckon we're all creatures of our subjective impressions and habits. After 11 years in nun-run schools and 4 years under the Christian Brothers, I have nothing but admiration for the men and ladies of the cloth. Besdes teaching subjects, they instilled disclipline and the importance of sacrifice and self-mortification which toughen people up for life. It was the permissive Dr Spock style upbringing that created several generations of mamby-pamby, ego-tripping misfits.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Merged: Polish government planning restructuring -- PM Szydło

PM Beata Szydło has made it plainly clear that her govt was headed for restructuring, not only personnel changes. Ministers cannot just officiate and bide their time but must be effective, she stressed. Word is going round that health min. Radziwiłł and finance min. Szałamacha may get the axe. Morawiecki's position will probably grow as he will most likely get to oversee the finance ministry and possibly other economic offices. Kaczyński will most likely not become PM as he did during Marcinkiewicz's stint, because the Polish people do not want him in that position. He is at his best as a strategist with a grand overview of the situation, not bogged down by day-to-day dilemmas the way a PM is.

Genealogy / Kosiorek - looking for Polish meaning, relatives [12]

There were members of the szlachta (gentry) in one line of the Kosiorek family who were entitled to stamp their documents and possessions with the Jastrzębiec coat of arms.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


For once I agree with you. Dunno if it's still being done, but a while back I heard Sweden was penalising not prosties but their johns (customers). It'd probably be fairer to punish both seller and buyer, but at least it's a start in the right direction. All too often women are singled out for the blame, but it takes two to tango.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Pope Francis himself has estimated that roughly 10% of Catholic priests are homos. He should know.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


If by normal women you mean rabid libertine feminists Magdalena Środa, Anna Grodzka and Kazimiera Suka, er, um, I mean Szczuka, then you're more than welcome to them.

News / A better Polish solution: aiding refugees in their home region [29]


True, but Poland sees this is an alternative to accepting ethno-religiously alien migrants whose presence has already caused serious disruption including securtiy issues for accepting societies. The more so since Poland has opened its borders to Ukrainians fleeing Russian aggression and earlier had accepted some 80,000 Chechen refugees fleeing Russian aggression. Poland's geography naturally lends itself to aiding the victims of the eternal foe -- Muscovy.

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]

{Busha}
One of my cousins in the States used to refer to her paternal gran as babcia and her maternal one as busia. I never used busia but told my grannies apart by calling one Babcia Kazia (first name) and Babcia Kupczyńska (surname).

Genealogy / Want to find a person [762]


What was his name?

News / Kukiz and Petru - newly emerging political stage in Poland [57]


Provide a link that states that per se, and some discussion might be possible. Unless it would come from some dodgy lefty-libertine source that would completely undermine its reliability. But since no reliable sources exist for a lie, feeble overinterpretations and insinuations need to be used. Only an idiot would believe any of it. It is but yet another flimsy pretext for H to bash his favourite bête noire. (Sorry, bete noire -- H disapproves or non-Anglo-jabber diacritics).

News / Kukiz and Petru - newly emerging political stage in Poland [57]


Not of ignoramuses, but actually most Anglos are not intellectual giants, are they?
In Anglo-jabber or any other langauge foreign expressions or names should be spelt correctly, and so: café, coup d'état, Pétain, François Hollande, der Führer, Škoda, piñata, José, Curaçao, Orbán, Dubček, etc. And therefore also Piłsudski and his great admirer Kaczyński, pre-war President Mościcki and the odious Gomułka....

News / Kukiz and Petru - newly emerging political stage in Poland [57]


So you condemn all judges, prosecutors, lawyers and other judicial types because POTENTIALLY THEY MIGHT HAVE PROSECUTRED AN ANTI-COMMUNIST. In a totalitarian system doctors could be pressured to give lethal injections to enemies of the regimes, issue death certificates with what the regime wanted written there, intentionally misdiagnose an illness, etc., etc., so do you all condemn all doctors living under communism? But we hear nary a peep from you about the blood-dripping Michnik family and the ex-commie-riddled KOD group. They are very much relevant and not off-topic becuase they show you up for the biased bigot you really are.


Not in the least. Under communism he could have finally gives free rein to his inherent snitching instincts and would have probably become one of the regime's star TWs. That is if he finally learnt some decent Polish.


It's spelt Kaczyński with the accented "n". Not only your beloved Anglo-jabber has its rules!
Kaczyński is Poland's wisest and most influential senior statesman, an astute tactician and strategist able to see the big picture -- Poland and the Polish nation. His predecessors were content to cater to their cronies and other fellow-clique members with little regard for the rest of the country. He is now pursing a bold plan to reform the country and undo the wrongs of the past. Many people these days are saying that communism did not end in 1989 but in October 2015 when the good-change party came to power.

News / Kukiz and Petru - newly emerging political stage in Poland [57]


Voters' choice! The Polish nation has spoken! Whether the losers, ne'er-do-wells and badmouthers like it or not!


I wonder if you all noticed how a few days ago Petru went on television to appeal to every Pole to pledge a "mere" 10 złots a month to his party. It is needed to derail the current government, according to him.

Really cheap and tacky! Especially coming from a well-to-do banker!


THE SAME HARRYESQUE LIE!!! No proof, no facts, just mean-spirited insinuations like your "state property at knock-down prices".

News / Kukiz and Petru - newly emerging political stage in Poland [57]


Sooner Petru will get pushed out of the poltical arena by the Polish voter. His support has been inching down towards the 5% threshold. Another flash in the pan like Palikot.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

WAŃCZYK: the eastern Polish equivalent of Johnson; Wania (eastern borderland for Johnny); -czyk is a patronymic ending.

WAŃCYZCKI: This could be Wańczyk's son.

MOCHULSKI: probably a toponymic nick for someone from such localities as Mochów. Mochy, Mochała and similar.

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Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


I overstated things for the sake of conciseness. Jews ran commerce, crafts and industry whilst Germans designed, built and organised municipal facilities and local-council adminstrations as well as setting up industry.


In my polemical fervour I too sometimes make sweeping statemtns. One cannot say "no public festivals". St Dominic's Fair in Gdańsk (only just concluded) or January's Polish Carollers' Fest in the southern mountains are some exceptions, and there are others. But surely not as many as there should ne. Many Poles go in for the folk culture of America's black slumland (rap music), but avoid their own like the plague. Mickiewicz always comes to mind: You praise all things foreign and think they are best, not seeing what you yourself possess!


Off topic but it reminded me of one of the ribald nursery rhymes of my youth: There was an old woman who lived in a shoe, she had so many children she decided to get married.

Another goes: Little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet (what's a tuffet?) eating her curds and whey. Along came a spider and sat down beside her and said: "What's in the bowl, b*tch?"

Or how about (a bit more risqué, but we're all adults, innit?):
Old Mother Hubbard went ot the cupboard to get her poor dog a bone.
But when she bent over, Rover drove her, 'cause he had a bone of his own!

I've been told my jokes are so good I should be on the stage.* There's one leaving in 10 minutes!

P.S. Would an anglophonic European get that "stage" in Americanese is short for stagecoach?

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


I too say yes and no to your argumentation. True the Nazi/Soviet periods harmed the national fabric but it didn't start there. It started with the partitions. The partitions forced Poland to sit out the industrial revolution and remain a largely peasant society. What industry emerged in Polish lands -- such as collieries, textiles and distilling -- was mainly in foreign hands. The 19th century was also a time of heightened international sharing -- Russia became known for the Bolshoi, caviare and vodka, Italy for opera and cuisine, Germany for its composers and philosophers, etc., etc. But Poland had to sit that out as well. Without hteir own country, who was to promote Poland's heritage? If Chopin had not emigrated to France, the world may never heard of him. To 20-year interbellum was to short a period to offset those arrears. Hopefully the current "good change" govenrment will take up the torch. They already have and remain concerned about making up for lost time. All hope is in the Morawiecki Plan! Let's hope it succeeds!