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Ziemowit   
13 Oct 2018
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

use "car wash", or "fast food", but insist on using archaic terms when talking about blacks.

"Murzyn" isn't an archaic term or it is as archaic (slightly less, in fact) as other terms of the Polish language. What's the point in changing terms in Polish into more modern ones, pray tell ! Is it common practice in the English language to constantly "modernize" its vocabulary?

I hear "fast food" very often (and it is declined), but I never hear "car wash" instead of "myjnia" in everyday speech. Perhaps the reason is that we do not have a good counterpart for "fast food" just as we don't have such one for "weekend". The other reason is that :"fast food" is handy and easily declineable, e.g. "idę do fast foodu" rather than "idę do baru szybkiej obsługi" which would be awful and would mean a slightly different thing. For "junk food", I typically hear "śmieciowe jedzenie".

I cannot imagine anyone saying "musze jechać do car washa" which would sound idiotic, so it has never been used in speech which doesn't exclude instances where some idiots would express themselves that way. It also doesn't exclude banners displaying the name of an enterprise, but that's a different story.

From my school days, I remember Polish the famous Polish cabaret actress Hanka Bielicka exclaiming to a group of us, primary school pupils asking her for an autograph at some backstage corridor: "Ciemno tu jak u Murzyna w dupie!" while reaching out for her handbag to take out a pile of photographs so as to write a dedication on them for everyone. If it were a Shakespeare theatre, I'm sure she would have exclaimed "Mehr Licht!" ...

bielicka
Hanka Bielicka
Ziemowit   
13 Oct 2018
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

It [Murzyn] is generally seen as a neutral word,[1] while other contemporary critics, mostly of non-Polish ethnicity, claim that it has pejorative connotations.

I remember jon357 and Harry some time ago displaying hysteria on this forum because ethnic Poles were telling them Murzyn was a neutral word, whereas the said two clowns thought otherwise.

That's where political correctness may eventually lead people to ...
Ziemowit   
10 Oct 2018
History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

My dear, we all know how Lusatians were robbed of their land. That Germany wanted even more, again, again and again.

My dear, if looked closer into the history of the now Eastern Germany in the Middle Ages, you would see that much of the blame for the extinction of the Elbeslaven can be assigned to the Slavs themselves. They were attacking the Germans much as the Germans were attacking them. But they were also effectuating bloody fights between themselves all the time (as well as against the Polish people, too). And even after the victorious uprising against the Teutonic power in 983, they immediately jumped themselves to the throats rather than trying to built some Slavic unity which could eventually lead to an independent Slavic state between the river Elbe and the river Oder within (most probably) the HRE just as the Czechs successfully did, for example.

Crow, you completely ignore the "Slavic" factor in the disappearance of native Slavs (except for a small community of Sorben today) west of the river Oder. Something that is left, however, are the names of places in Eastern Germany which seem to have glued to this land for ever. Thus, you have: Spandau (Spędów), Neukölln (Nowe Kolno), Treptow (Trzebiatów), Pankow (Panków), Köpenick (Kopnik/Kopanica) in Berlin itself. All those names bear a clear meaning for a Polish or a Czech person today, while they have none in German.
Ziemowit   
10 Oct 2018
History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

the statement that our greatest ever statesman Bismarck doesn't had anything better to do than to murmur "SERBIA" in his last minute...

So what did Bismarck murmur in his last minute then if it were not "SERBIA" ???
Ziemowit   
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

only sleeping

And yet I think they are still walking around us sometimes, but maybe only ... in my dream.

Have you heard of that wooden pole which the Saxon people believed keeps the sky above them up and once it was destroyed, the sky would crash onto the earth? And then the Franks came and conquered the Sachsen and destroyed the pole and they saw the sky ... was still there!

All this and other stories are compellingly described in the fascinating book "Barbarzyńska Europa" by Karol Modzelewski, a historian of the Middle Ages period (also the Polish "Solidariity" influential activist in the communist era), a book which was translated into many languages with German being one of them - "Das barbarische Europa".

barbar
Ziemowit   
21 Sep 2018
History / Not proud of my Polish heritage [110]

I'm one of the Polish people you are just an a..hole and a Soviet.

No, you are very very far from being Polish. You are a genuine Soviet man (homo sovieticus) who can't stand any criticism of his views just the way the Soviets did. When you hear that your angry manifesto is compared to a manifesto of the Bolsheviks, you resort to personal abuse. That is why you are an i..hole.

I will entertain myself observing the Polish psyche.

And we will surely entertain ourselves observing yours.
Ziemowit   
19 Sep 2018
History / Not proud of my Polish heritage [110]

Lot of soviet crap you are spewing Ziem, I guess I was right about you.

I think you are one big soviet crap yourself, but in disguise. And I guess that has been obvious for everyone on this forum.

Those issues are better left for people involved, to solve between themselves.

Perhaps, but you are not one of them. You are simply a "true Polish patriot" choosing to live outside Poland and that's a completely different category.

Polish people seem to have a huge inferiority complex when it comes to constructive criticism.

This thread serves the purpose of provoking Polish people which is what I explained in my earlier post that has been moved from here to Random. I may suspect that the OP is in fact Rich Mazur in disguise as the thoughts of the OP expressed here are almost in perfect concordance with Mazur's views.
Ziemowit   
18 Sep 2018
News / Poland's Future in the EU under PIS [51]

And as the Brexit just shows it's very hard if near impossible to cut all these fine and thicker strings.

I can assure you (as a Polish person permanently living in Poland) that there is no serious talk in Poland on any possible Polexit in the forseeable future. You should not be taking the opinions on that presented on the PolishForums as in any way representative for the opinions prevailing in Poland.
Ziemowit   
18 Sep 2018
History / Not proud of my Polish heritage [110]

paranoid insistence on determining who is and isn't "really" Polish seems very in line with the PiS modus operandi

Indeed, this kind of paranoia can still be observed among certain (mostly older) people, but it has never been the PiS modus operandi. Anti-Jewish or anti-German phobias are of course present among some of PiS members and supporters, but it has never been the official or unofficial party line. Both the twin brothers, the late president Lech Kaczyński and today's omnipotent eminence grise of the present Polish government, the party leader Jarosław Kaczyński, have never been (were) anti-semitic or anti-Jewish and the same can be said of the majority of the leading figures within the PiS party.

their destructive and paranoid attempts to rewrite the history of the early and late 1980s are doing tremendous damage

With this I can agree. For someone who did live in Poland at that time, these attempts are indeed ridiculous and purely satirical. But PiS also tries to re-write certan elements of the history of the WW2 which refers to the question of the resistance movement (ruch oporu). Virtually no attention is given to the Home Army (Armia Krajowa) these days which reminds me of the official line of the communist propaganda under PRL which typically used to neglect the very existence of the Home Army during the war in Poland, promoting instead the communist Armia Ludowa. The so-called "żołnierze wyklęci" who fought after the end of the war against the Soviet "liberators" (or the new occupants of Poland) are heavily promoted now.
Ziemowit   
14 Sep 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

your f up mind. A fact that you're an ignorant little perineum with a narrow mind set

Why do you resort to personal abuse when answering my post? In my post I was judging nothing more than your post by calling it an "angry manifesto" and comparing it to a manifesto of the far-left extremists of Russia. There was absolutely nothing personal against you in my post.

In return, you have been addressing me personally as someone who has a "f up mind" and also calling me "an ignorant little perineum". These are nasty insults which have nothing to do with arguments of any kind.

No wonder you are on Rich Mazur's black list, Ironside. Mods, could you please judge if Ironside's behaviour towards myself is in accordance with the supposedly high standards of the PolishForums, and in case you decide it is not, could you please effectuate a suspension of adequate length for his inappropriate behaviour?
Ziemowit   
14 Sep 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

In the EU so called new countries are treated like a colony.

Your angry manifesto against the EU very much resembles the Bolsheviks' manifesto against the capitalist system.

This manifesto is the repetition of all the stereotypes diffused by the nationalistic right-wing extremists in Poland just as the Bolsheviks' manifesto did express the obsessions of the left-wing extremists in Russia.

Germany's Holy Roman Empire. (third try)

And your newest obsession with the Holy Roman Empire comes from which source, JR?
Ziemowit   
13 Sep 2018
News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

I don't know of anyone who knows anything about how the internet works who supported articles 11 or 13...

I am not familiar with these articles, so I do not have an opinion really, but yesterday's Rzeczpospolita paper edition was issued with its front page all blank in support of the said articles. The paper (which is a very much balanced one despite accustions on this forum of it being a 'commie' paper) said the said articles would save decent and independent journalism by improving their financiall. This is because a lot of content is now being stolen by media corporations and social media which don't pay for it and thus damage honest and independent journalism. So the paper supported article 11 or 13

I wonder now what the stance of the major newspapers in Western Europe is in regard to this. Does anyone know?
Ziemowit   
6 Sep 2018
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]

Nigdy, nigdy will I ever understand Polish grammar but never mind.

But you did not make a mistake with "prosić o rękę". "Ręka" is as feminine a noun as "Kasia" and the former was also put in the accusative.

Prosić (kogo, co?) : Kasię (accusative)
Prosić o (kogo? co?) : rękę (accusative)

As an addendum (and some consolation) for you, I shall add that Polish grammar has been somewhat simplified over the ages. We do not have the dual number any more!

ręka - ręce - ręki : [singular - dual - plural]
noga - nodze - nogi : [singular - dual - plural]
Ziemowit   
6 Sep 2018
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]

not_ spring this on Kasia in front of her parents

That's true. Maybe Kasia does not want to marry him at all, so she would feel very embarrased ...
Ziemowit   
6 Sep 2018
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]

Wie Pan, kocham Kasią bardzo. Chciałbym prosić o rękę Pana/Państwa córki. Czy mogę?

It sounds really nice to me (except it should be "Kasię" which is the accusative of "Kasia").

Ask Kasia and after she says yes, ask how you should inform her parents

Asking parents for their blessing may these days seem in Poland some Anglo-saxon way of doing things known mostly from American films. But since he is foreigner, it makes sense and may be truly welcomed and accepted by all the parties involved
Ziemowit   
3 Sep 2018
News / Mister President Andrzej Duda - Best Poland could get. [96]

That is because Duda is a politician and Trump is not nor has he ever admitted to being one.

Basically, president Duda is a puppet in the hands of the real Polish leader Mr Jarosław Kaczyński. Having realized he would never get sufficient popularity among voters to win any election, Mr Kaczyński had made a brilliant step indeed towards a winning of the 2016 presidential election by a PiS candidate. Chairman Kaczyński had put forward and succeded in the promotion of a new face - a canditate that was totally unknown to the public, but one who was skilful enough to win the election or could have got a good result in it which wouldn't have been insignificant for PiS. Some years before that election, Mr. Duda lost the election for a councillor in Kraków. Without party leader Jarosław Kaczyński promoting him for the post of President, Duda would have remained an unknown party functionary somewhere in Kraków to this very day.

Mr Kaczyński repeated this brilliant move in the parliamentary ellection that followed suit. In this election he put forward Beata Szydło, also an unknown politician, for the post of Prime Minister in the future government. Likewise, she also lived up to the expectations of the party leader and had a big share in winning the election whose result would certainly not have been so good if Mr. Kaczyński had declared his wish to become Prime Minister in the future government himself due to his unpopularity among the general public.

Such are the meanders of Polish politics of which you have probably been not aware of, Johnny.
Ziemowit   
29 Aug 2018
News / Purturbing opinion: Poland is not a woman, it is a drunk, inept guy in depression [30]

So a bad translation then. "potrzebna na gwałt sanitariuszka" means "a nurse urgently needed" not "nurse needed for rape".

In fact, the phrase means both. As Maf said, the ambiguity of the phrase was on purpose. And very much on purpose. If she simply said: ... że zaraz się wykrwawi i potrzebna mu [będzie] natychmiast sanitariuszka, the phrase would have completely lost its intended bluntness. The idiom "na gwałt" was absolutely indispensable to build a reference to her former phrases in that sentence describing how the true Polish "patriots" lured by the PiS propaganda are likely to come to a state of sexual arousal. So all this is neither creepy nor any "nut job", Dolno, but - as Crow said - is a well defined and well refined "self-criticism that started in Poland".

Manuela Gretkowska was indeed playing with words and I really should have underlined that in my translation. Unfortunately, the ambiguity of the na gwałt phrase was too obvious for me since I have known it from my school days when we sometimes joked among male friends when an accident during sport activities happened: - Coś ci się stało, kolego? Noo, pielegniarka na gwałt ci potrzebna ...

Ms Gretkowska's novels include: "Polka": 2001, 2002, 2003, 2007, 2012; "Sceny z życia pozamałżeńskiego": 2003, 2005, 2007, 2011; "Namiętnik": 1998, 2005, 2007, 2008 and many many others ...
Ziemowit   
28 Aug 2018
News / Purturbing opinion: Poland is not a woman, it is a drunk, inept guy in depression [30]

unless you have provided a poor translation.

Namieszali ludziom w głowach propagandą, powstaniami, że niedługo "patriota" widząc jak mu staje i cała krew spływa do penisa pomyśli, że zaraz się wykrwawi i potrzebna mu na gwałt sanitariuszka - were the original words of Ms Gretkowska.
Ziemowit   
28 Aug 2018
News / Purturbing opinion: Poland is not a woman, it is a drunk, inept guy in depression [30]

Such is the opinion of Polish lady writer Manuela Gretkowska. Ms Gretkowska is known for her strong statements and this time also she expressed her opinion about the situation of women in Poland in a blunt way.

Under the previous PiS government, I realized that Poland was a woman, that without equality and freedom for Poland, our country would not be a democracy. Traveling with this idea in Poland, I saw that women were OK. I saw that the problem for changing something were the men. Thus I changed my mind: Poland is not a woman, it is a drunk, inept guy in depression ("jest zapijaczonym, nieudolnym facetem w depresji") - wrote Gretkowska as quoting on the Facebook the excerpts from her own speech at the 10th National Congress of Women, in which speech she criticizes not only the PiS government, but also the Catholic Church.

They confused people in their heads with propaganda, the uprisings, so that that the "patriot", seeing how he is having an erection and all the blood is flowing to his penis, thinks that he would be bleeding soon, so he urgently needs a nurse for a rape - writes Gretkowska as cited by onet.pl.

Poland is a patriarchal monarchy under the Church's rule of the Mother of God, modeled for us, a model roll. What do we, women, should ask for, since little Jesus did not go to a nursery or kindergarten? The parity in remuneration? Our Lady neither created the world nor did she redeem it, she was only a subcontractor, and such people should always be offered less - cynically comments Gretkowska on the expectations of the Polish women towards the state.

For the last 2,000 years, the Church has considered itself a victim and is like the fire of hell afraid of the truth that it has ceased to be such through becoming a persecutor of women - Gretkowska added.
Ziemowit   
17 Aug 2018
Life / Things that annoy you in Poland. [133]

Your comments are spot on. I counted 16 in total in 2017 to register a corsa

I'm not sure if what you are saying is true. My wife had once bought a corsa and she counted only one visit to register the car.
Ziemowit   
12 Aug 2018
Life / Why do Silesians hate Poland? [41]

That's interesting...some german has survived in Silesia after the expulsions? Awesome.

I was talking about Polish Silesians rather than German Silesians, but of course quite a lot of German Silesians survived the expulsions of 1946-47 and decided to leave for Germany later on after the expulsions based on the Potsdam agreement were long dead.

One reason was that the Polish authorities, particularly in Lower Silesia, at one time put a stop on German people leaving Silesia after they had realized that qualified workforce were leaving for Germany as well and there was a sudden shortage of specialists in coal mines, workshops and factories.

Those people left Lower Silesia in the 1950s or 1960s. But some of them have remained to this day in their Silesian Heimat. The number of original ethnic German people in Wrocław, for example, is estimated at about 2000 these days.

There are some in the Waldenburg (Wałbrzych) area, too. If you knew Polish, you could be able to listen to their interesting accounts on all those years between 1945 and circa 2000 and later on available on youtube. Born a few years before 1939, some of them they could remember how Lower Silesia looked like in German times. One lady is telling that the area around Waldenburg iss much cleaner and nicer in the present Polish times than it was before 1939 since coal mines and other industry stopped operating in that area. She recalls her pre-1939 Sunday excursions with her father in the vicinity of the village or the small town in which they lived. Another one remembers very well the Schloss Fürstenstein (Zamek Książ) from the time of the WW2 where she lived there as a daughter of a guardian. After the war she was making her living working for many years in the ticket office of the Fürstenstein (Książ) castle. Another one lady says she visits her family in Hamburg on a regular basis, but has rejected their offer to leave Poland and immigrate to Germany. She says there is no nicer land in the world than Lower Silesia, so sho would remain there to her death. The ladies also tell how they were reproached for talking German in the streets of their towns or villages in the times of the People's Republic of Poland (PRL) and add it all luckily ended after 1989.

All of them tell their stories in perfect Polish now. I could not hear the slightest difference in accent to the standard Polish, though some of them picked up the language characteristics for the Polish country people who settled in Lower Silesia after the war. I wonder if there exist those accounts with German subtitles for they would have been very interesting for you to hear.
Ziemowit   
12 Aug 2018
Life / Why do Silesians hate Poland? [41]

Silesian is just a rregional dialect of Polish?

The problem is that there are many Silesian dialects and not just one. Dialects of neighbouring areas in Silesia may differ quite a lot. This is the basic reason why a widely accepted "Sileasian language" standard has not been agreed upon among the Silesians themselves so far.

Basically, if you take a Silesian dilect spoken in the country, you will see there are strikingly much less words of German origin in it than in a Silesian dialect spoken in urban areas. Thus the original Silesian dialect is not farer away from standard Polish than any other Polish dialect in other areas of Poland like, for example, Mazovia. People are usually not aware of this fact and they tend to think the Silesian dialect is loaded with German words which may be true only in reference to urban Silesian.

The question of Silesian language is thus a political rather than a linguistic one.
Ziemowit   
1 Aug 2018
History / MAP OF POLAND IN 1880'S [95]

Looking for Sambor or Sambov in Poland.

Sambor (Sambir) is presently in Ukraine, near the Polish border.
Ziemowit   
30 Jul 2018
Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [402]

The family Jewski does indeed belong to the Jastrzębiec coat of arms, but it is really hard to tell the meaning of the name.