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pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [599]

Jaruzelski was still president until the very end of December 1990.

Yes, darling, but Solidarity had taken over in 1989 and people could travel to the West freely at last. Ha!
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
Life / Poetry and Poets of Poland [58]

Sb said this as a complaint about my contribution:
forget it; every word will be interpreted literally. making further conversation impossible.

My reply:
When I said nasty things about you and your family, it was also poetic and metaphorical. Do you know turpizm, a trend in Polish poetry??? I strictly followed its prerogatives.

Turpism appeared in Polish poetry after 1956 and was used by: Stanisław Grochowiak , Ernest Bryll , Andrzej Bursa and others. Representatives of turpism included motifs of ugliness, disability, disease and death in their works. They described objects, landscapes and disgusting phenomena (destruction, transience, aging, decay), which was intended to authenticate the presented vision of the world and help affirm reality with all its aspects.

Why you interpreted everything so literally and got so pissed off in result is a mystery to me!!!!

Here is an example of turpizm by Stanisław Grochowiak: Burning Giraffe. Do you remember that famous painting by Dali?

hamlet.edu.pl/grochowiak-zyrafa

Yes
This is something
Poor construction of human fear
A giraffe smoking so slowly
Yes
This is something

Something from that wall made of aspirin and sweat.
That face that looked like a shattered shotgun

Yes,
that's something

Why are you rotting from your chin to your temples?
What kind of tooth is ringing in your empty skull ?
Yes, that's something.

Something that awaits us
Useful and dangerous
Like a leg
Like a heart
Like a belly and a poker

The dark grave of man's sky
Yes, that's something

I am writing this poem
to myself and to donkeys,
to two rheumatized people,
one with toothache,
they will understand him,
yes
, it is something

Because life
means:

Buy meat Quarter meat
Kill meat Love meat
Fertilize meat Curse meat
Teach meat and bury meat

And make of meat And think with meat
And in the name of meat In spite of meat
For the tomorrow of meat For the destruction of meat
Especially especially in defense of meat

AND IT'S ON FIRE

It does not last.
It does not cool.
It does not survive even in salt.
It falls
and rots.
It falls off
and hurts

Yes,
that's something
1958

pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [599]

you traveled to New York during the PRL? :)

I travelled in 1990. It wasn`t PRL anymore! Ha!!!
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [599]

since normal Poles did not receive passports at all,

Novi got one. :):):)

Then I would also accept it with a kiss.

Were you like Novi then???
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [599]

Ethnic Poles gave Jewish Poles and Polesses a one way passport without the right to come back.

The so called travel document - it allowed to leave Poland but not come back.


  • traveldocumentgive.jpg
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [599]

then yes.

Nope, they were Polish communists aka ethnic Poles. From Polish villages and towns.

rather than stay in Poland and find another job they emigrated on their own

No, liar, they didn`t. They were forced to emigrate coz they were threatened by ethnic Poles they wouldn`t find any job and their kids would be expelled from universities and grammar schools.

Ethnic Poles gave Jewish Poles and Polesses a one way passport without the right to come back.
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [257]

f they had any say in the matter Tuwim wouldn't be forced taught upon them.

BS, Every Pole and Poless knows and loves the Locomotive by Tuwim. As a foreigner, you know nothing about Poland.
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [257]

I won't because Poloniusz won

Actually, he didn`t. It turns out that most native Poles and Polesses in the forum and a few foreign Polish guys support Jews in Poland while only two Americans like Polo or you are against. Who wins in the Polish forum? Poles and Polesses do.

You can kiss our human and monkey asses!! hahahaha
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [257]

Philosemitism is just another form of antisemitism.

Exactly. We love Jews so much that we antisemitically critisize them to make them even more perfect.

I also read that he sat out WWII in safety and comfort overseas

Like Chopin who didn `t go to the Rising.

Yet, decent Poles never had a problem with both. :):):)

isn't.

It is your biased view which most Poles reject coz they love Tuwim`s poetry which is still taught at schools of all levels. Ha!
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
Life / Is Polish church involved in politics too much? [137]

The clergy are said to support and favour rightwing politicians, especially the ones who rule Poland nowadays.

3 years after the OP`s post, the things look no better for the RC Church in Poland. The number of people attending Sunday mass and the number of students attending RC religion classes at schools have been falling steadily. And the trend will continue coz still too many Church officials allow themselves to be openly critical of the new gov and the changes in the law that are planned, e.g, same sex partnerships acknowledged by the state.
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [257]

Another dodging of my question

You tell us the story of your antisemitism first and then we tell you our stories of philosemitism. Simple.

You can't say

Yes, I can and I do it. Your biased whining is meaningless.
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

Danuta Goska who wrote the book:Bieganski The Brute Polak Stereotype, Its Role in Polish-Jewish Relations and American Popular Culture. says about this incident:

All of these factors, from decades ago and from today's headlines, make Braun's vandalism particularly sickening. This isn't just about extinguishing candles. Braun's act is a reflection of a profoundly evil mind and a sick soul. If the Brauns of this world had more power, Heaven knows what the world would look like. Perhaps fires for "heretic" Protestants would fill the air with ash, just as Braun filled the air with choking debris during his vile stunt..

bieganski-the-blog.blogspot.com/2023/12/a-polish-politician-extinguishes.html#more
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [257]

By the way, how long have you been a Zionist and what inspired you to become and remain one?

Let`s reverse it - how long have you been an antisemite and what inspired you? :):):)

If the Jews and the Jews alone made Poland so strong and prosperous then why were any partitions attempted and successful?

Because too many Polish elites, top aristocracy and royals, prefered to ally with Russians. Jews couldn`t prevent it. Simple.
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [257]

without any evidence.

You are lying as usual. There are multiple sources on the importance of Jewish trade or industry in Polish economy both before, during and after partitions.

E.g,
Jerzy Topolski further concluded that from the second half of the seventeenth century, the Jewish population that was concentrated in the eastern part of the commonwealth "was an element in introducing the latifundial economic system. Without it, we would have had something like a living organism without blood."

No wonder, then, that the Sobieskis and Radziwiłłs supported the Jewish merchants, whose activities invigorated the economy of the latifundium and brought additional income from the fees they could levy on any form of mercantile activity. Further, as Adam Teller has observed, in the eighteenth century these activities not only generated revenues for the magnates, but also sustained the functioning of markets in the towns themselves.


degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9788394914912-025/html
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [599]

The Israeli article goes on to ask where the racist stereotypes come from despite some shared history between the two countries.

Hmmm, probably they still remember how ethnic Poles expelled thousands of Jewish Poles in 1968???
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]

Curious facts:
The Polish king died at the battlefield. Allegedly Ottomans cut off his head while the body was never found.

He was only 20 years old.

In some countries urban legends claimed that the king survived and went into hiding under a different identity.

There is a mausoleum to the King in Varna - I visited it during our trip to Bulgaria in 1970s. Below.

During WW2, Americans were looking for a pretext to eliminate Japanese Navy admiral Yamamoto. They thought it was immoral to kill such an important commander just like that. They searched historical archives and found the case of the Polish kings who was killed in battle. That fact gave green light to shooting down Yamamoto`s plane.


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pawian   
30 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

It is good that the Polish Parliament honours the Jewish who once were an important part of the Polish state. They ceased to be due to tragic developments during WW2. Apart from Germans and Austrians as the main perpetrators of the Holocaust, there were also ethnic Poles who murdered Jews for various reasons. Today, to make up for those crimes, let the candles be lit.
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [503]

good -

Excactly!!! When more teachers leave the job coz they won`t get a rise, I will charge higher rates and demand bigger wages than now and earn twice as much coz I won`t have any competition at all. Win win situation for me. hahahaha
pawian   
30 Dec 2023
History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [503]

soon you won't have enough money to buy anything! "Poland's president intends to veto a spending bill which includes money raises for teachers

PiS azhole president vetoes pay rises for teachers! It is a fact!

That is why I never voted for PIS and none of my family or students did! And we are going to keep it like that in the future!! hahahaha

PS., Did you notice I corrected your spelling mistake ????
pawian   
29 Dec 2023
History / Famous Russian Poles [243]

It appears

However you try to conjure reality, the truth is that Poles will not go with Russians against the current West.
pawian   
29 Dec 2023
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1050]

Polish would be too conservative.for translating "unfuck".

It is, believe me, even if you feel right now it is improbable.
pawian   
29 Dec 2023
Life / Polish women who made amazing careers against patriarchal society [128]

lives in the company of many cats and boxed wine.

A cat is better than a macho azhole husband who needs to dominate to feel good.

And wine is much better than vodka massively consumed by macho azholes.
Ha!
Women of the world, unite against azholing machos! Polish women showed you how!
pawian   
29 Dec 2023
History / Why Poland achieved nothing at all? [69]

Why Poland achieved nothing at all?

Simple. Whenever Poland was close to achieve sth, Germans, Russians, Swedes, Czechs attacked her and destroyed everything. Together or seperately. E..g, in 1939 Soviets and Nazis had an alliance to crush Poland.

Germans reformed and are new people today. So did Swedes and Czechs.
While most Russians are the same imperialists they always were. When will they reform at last???
I don`t want to experience another destruction.