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kaprys   
6 Apr 2019
Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1421]

@rozumiemnic
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That's how my mum makes it and how I make it at home.
Cook it for some time with bay leaf and allspice, then add some chopped onions, grated apple, pepper, oil and vinegar.
The stuff you buy in jars is just different.

As for golabki, when I was a kid I just left the cabbage on the plate. Now I don't mind it and I actually prefer the Polish kind to the ones I had in Bułgaria - with vine leaves (or whatever you call it ) ;)
kaprys   
6 Apr 2019
Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]

Parówki and paprykarz szczeciński have been sold here for decades but it's been only for the past ten years or so that more and more people become obese. Especially when you look at kids, you realise how fat our society has become.

In my personal opinion it's about too many unhealthy snacks that people have between meals.
kaprys   
1 Apr 2019
Genealogy / Which Polish first names are considered unpopular / obsolete in Poland? [124]

Along with Grażyna and Janusz, we have Seba (Sebastian) and Karyna (Karina) - sort of younger and cheaper versions of the first two.
Dzesika and Brajanek also appear in memes - quite often as the youngest generation of the previous ones.
These names are quite ridiculed now.
As for Szymon and Jakub, they've been among the most popular names for boys for years -especially the latter one.
Wojtek and Franek made a great come back several years ago but I'd say names like Zdzisław/a, Zbigniew, Kazimierz, not to mention Apolonia, Wincenty or Wawrzyniec are rather unpopular now.

But the thing is a lot of old fashioned names become suddenly popular ....
kaprys   
15 Mar 2019
Life / Why does Poland need racial diversity? Opinions [67]

Just because a given country is racially diverse, it doesn't mean everyone lives happily together.
I used to live in the UK and I heard different xenophobic remarks from people of different ethnic or racial backgrounds, for example, Brits complaining about Poles or black people complaining about Indians or Poles complaining about Muslims or Muslims complaining about white guys in tight pants cycling in their district. .. The list goes on. Or the attacks on synagogues in France etc. Isnt France racially diverse enough?

As for gene mixing, Poland was quite ethnically diverse before WW2 - lots of Poles mixed with Germans, Ruthenians, Jews, not to mention other nationalities. Think about the migrations that took place right after the war. People moved to different parts of the country due to resettlements or looking for jobs. People still move to different cities and countries to go to university, to work etc. It's natural, it doesn't have to be obligatory.

Of course, there are also marriages or relationships of Polish people with people from different countries who live here they and their children are part of our society. Just because it's not very common, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
kaprys   
25 Feb 2019
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

@Vlad1234
But there are a lot of Polish people with dark hair and eyes. Not to mention, South Slavs.
Look up Abelard Giza, a Polish comedian who often jokes about his foreign looks. Another guy from the same comedy group is tall with blondish /reddish curly hair. Honestly, they look Polish enough to me.
kaprys   
25 Feb 2019
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

I'm not sure really. As for blonde hair, sometimes it's hard to say who is a natural blonde and who's not.
As for the lady in question, I know a lot of Polish women who look kind of similar to her and lots who don't.

As for Ukrainians in Poland, I usually come across men - usually construction workers you pass on your way to work or groups of them doing shopping together.

Generally speaking, there are West and East Slavs. For example Ruthenians, Hutsuls or Lemkos lived in what is now eastern Poland or Ukraine. There are Polish people with Ruthenian roots, just like with German, Dutch, Scottish, Greek etc.

After the war a lot of people from eastern Poland were moved to western Poland. They mixed with locals not to mention previous or later migrations. A lot of Polish people were forced to stay in the USSR and so on.

Interstingly enough, the man who first started to describe Hutsuls was a Pole of Italian origin.
Or the case of Polish children taken from their parents during WW2 as they were thought to look Aryan enough to be adopted by Germans - it affected thousands of people.
kaprys   
25 Feb 2019
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

@Vlad1234
Not really. Most Ukrainians I have met have similar complexion, hair and eye colours to Poles. Newcomers usually speak little Polish, sometimes dress differently than Poles but there's a lady who owns a small shop at a local market who has been living here for years -and if it wasn't for her accent (slightly more melodic and softer ) you wouldn't guess she's not Polish - medium height and built, blonde hair and an oval face like and unlike many other women in Poland.
kaprys   
25 Feb 2019
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

@Przelotnyptak1
I have a right to have an opinion based on my experience and circumstances. Thank you.
So to sum up, as much as we look different there are certain things that make me believe someone is Polish whereas someone else looks more Eastern European (Ukranian or Russian).

And that is based on what I see on everyday basis in Poland.
As much as our society was ethically diverse before the war, there were different influences in Poland and in Russia. There were different peoples living in different regions of what is now Poland, Ukraine or Russia.

As for being European, it's obvious that lots of people just look European and it's hard to guess their nationality. And that applies to southern Europeans as well just like not all Italians look like an average Italian from an American film.
kaprys   
25 Feb 2019
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

@Przelotnyptak1
Why don't you calm down?

As I have said before Polish people come in different shapes and sizes. We have different hair and eye colour. But there are certain things that make me think some people 'look Polish'. I'm not going to try to define them as they're probably based on my general perception -some features seem more familiar to me but it's not like all Polish people come from the same mould.

Take my great grandparents - my great grandmother was tall and slender with almost whitish blonde hair. Her husband was shortish with dark hair and eyes. My grandma was about 155 cm tall while some of her brothers were as tall as 180 cm or so. All brought up in a poor prewar village - I doubt they had a nutritious diet so yes, genes do matter. She gave birth to two sons in a labour camp - both grew to be about 180 cm tall despite the circumstances.

As far as my looks are concerned, I probably wouldn't fit into the definitions given by certain posters here - yet it has happened to me on several occasions that people abroad (both Poles and foreigners ) simply guessed I was Polish.

@others
There were malnutritioned people in different regions and ethnicities throughout Poland before the war.
kaprys   
25 Feb 2019
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

In most cases -not really.
I can usually tell someone is Ukrainian and a newcomer to Poland (assuming they don't say anything) by the way they sometimes dress or by other circumstances (a group of men doing shopping together etc).

Some look 'more Eastern' to me, some don't.
kaprys   
25 Feb 2019
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

Some Polish people are tall, some are of medium height or short. Some are slender, some are of medium built or stout. Some have blonde or brown hair but there are also people with naturally black hair. It all depends and due to people migration you can't say that a certain look belongs to a given part of the country.

Some people 'look Polish' to me. Some don't.
But there's no one certain look that I'd say is typically Polish.
And take it from someone who actually lives here.
A video from a concert commemorating the Warsaw Uprising. Have a look both at the historical footage as well as the artists and the audience and tell me again about a typical Polish look.

youtu.be/mqdgz-_7iN0
kaprys   
3 Jul 2018
Life / Polish home remedies for cold, stomach ache, migraine? [49]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphytum_officinale

Check the photo - it has purple flowers and attracts bees.

A quick google search reveals there are some products with comfrey for muscle pain.
kaprys   
30 Jun 2018
Life / Understanding Poland's Birthday Tradition [66]

That particular quote was about making bimber - that's how the guy tried to explain to 'Marysia' why he had so much sugar.

Yeah, but Polish comedies of that era could 'smuggle' certain ideas to the audience.
kaprys   
30 Jun 2018
Genealogy / What does my Polish name mean? [401]

According to a dictionary of Polish: karałasz - Turkish or Romanian soldier.

Potentially also from Karol (Charles) as other similar names (at least according to Stankiewicz)
kaprys   
30 Jun 2018
Life / Understanding Poland's Birthday Tradition [66]

I just remembered Poszukiwany, poszukiwana and ile jest cukru w cukrze :) and that was shot in the 70s, I think.
As for meliny, I don't know really but as far as I know they just dilute spirytus or Russian alcohol and then sell it. Or some other non-drinkable alcohol which sometimes results in death or hospitalisation of its gourmets ... Luckily, I haven't heard of such cases recently.

I don't think they would bother to make their own alcohol now. Not sure what it was like in the past.
As for drunks I remember they would drink jabole when I was a kid. I've heard now there's 'wine' sold in cartons :). But when I see such gentlemen consume their beverages na ławeczce, I think it's usually cheap beer or vodka, too.

But I do know some people who make their own nalewka like orzechowka or wisniowka - that's right. And that might be consumed at parties.
kaprys   
30 Jun 2018
Life / Understanding Poland's Birthday Tradition [66]

Agreed. I have never seen anyone drink bimber at any sort of party or gathering. And that includes events in the country. I don't think it's legal to make. Also why would you bother if you can easily buy alcohol?

Bimber sounds like something from old films like Sami swoi.
As for zubrowka, it's usually drunk with apple juice. Clear vodka (often served with juice for women or the so-called przepitka) is more common. And beer or wine, course
kaprys   
30 Jun 2018
Life / Understanding Poland's Birthday Tradition [66]

I have seen 18 spanks for the 18th birthday - they're pretty gentle, especially for girls. A silly thing done at parties for friends, not a family party, at least in my experience.

I have never seen anyone drink bimber, though...
kaprys   
30 Jun 2018
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1043]

I'm not registered. Do you want to download it or make a print screen to let me have a look?
As for the previous record - nothing seems to confirm they were Jewish. No mention of wyznanie mojzeszowe/starozakonne.
None of these first or last names sound Jewish/Yiddish. And they were illiterate as farmers/peasants back then were.
Banns of marriage were a normal thing really.
And then you have your ancestors' graves at Catholic cementaries. Do you have any records confirming their ancestors were Jewish? And even if they were, they and their descendants would have married people of other religions (assuming they converted to Catholicism, most likely other Catholics).

Well, you might have Jewish ancestors. But also Catholic, Protestant or Christian Orthodox ones (even Muslim!) - we're talking about 19th century partitioned Poland. Ethnically there are even more possibilities.
kaprys   
28 Jun 2018
Law / Bus ticket fine in Poland (Warsaw) - what if I don't pay the fine? [36]

I don't know what it's like in Warsaw but where I am bus inspectors need to inform the driver on entering the bus (he blocks the kasowniki) and show their IDs.

There's also an additional fee for calling the police and changing the bus route. On two occassions I have seen a bus drive to local police stations (and changing its route) because someone wouldn't accept a fine. Imagine how thrilled the rest of the passengers were.
kaprys   
27 Jun 2018
Law / Bus ticket fine in Poland (Warsaw) - what if I don't pay the fine? [36]

ztm.waw.pl/?c=110&l=2
scroll down for information about fines

A normal fine is over 260 zł. If you pay the ticket inspector it goes down to 160 zł. That makes 320 zł for two people but they had to call the police which usually makes the fee higher - much higher so you didn't pay that much.

And you need to show your ID.
Didn't you get a receipt?
kaprys   
21 Jun 2018
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1043]

It's really difficult to decipher and I'm not sure of certain things. Perhaps others will fill in the blanks. The handwriting is hard to read, the sentences are long and complicated and the language is old-fashioned. The translation will be very clumsy, I'm afraid.

In Krasne [?] on 25th November 1819 (?) in the afternoon (?). Wojciech Daniłowicz aged 35 (??), a farmer, assisted by his mother Katarzyna (maiden name Hołubowicz(?)) and Maryanna Krasińska/Krusińska (?) appeared in front of the civil clerks of Gmina Wigierska (?) Office in Powiat Dombrowski (original spelling) in Augustów Voivodoship. (Krusińska) showed a record from the Wigry Church confirming she was 28 (?) and lived with her parents Jan Krusiński (?) {...............?}. Parties stated that they wanted to get married confirming that banns of marriage done in front of our office on the 14th and 21st November.

I find it hard to decipher the rest of the entry but as I understand it, the couple were married then assisted by witnesses (?)Szymon (?) Jaroszewski, aged 50, Jan Jaroszewski(?), aged 47 Franciszek Daniłowicz, aged 54(?) and Dominik Daniłowicz, aged 44. The act was read to the people involved as they were illiterate.

As far as I can tell, nothing in the record says they were of Jewish origin. So basically that part of your family was Christian about 200 years ago.

What makes you think they were Jewish?

I know who were Anusim but I doubt Jews were forced to convert to Christianity in Poland. One of the reasons why there were so many Jews in Poland was that they were free to practice their religion. There were conversions of course. For example, if they wanted to marry a Christian. There were also frankists - the followers of Jacob Frank. In 1759 Jacob Frank and about two thousand of his followers were baptised. I think there were more conversions like that among them, although from what I have read they didn't exactly treat Christianity as the bishops would have wanted. The last frankist was baptised around 1820 so as you can see we're talking about the time period your church records come from.

As for the graves, well, they're not in Poland, are they?
I don't know how it works in the US but here you need to make a payment every 20 years at the cementary. Also it's up to the family to maintain the grave in a good condition. The quality of stone used for the tombstone also varies so some get worn out earlier. As for your greatgrandfather's grave, it's about 100 years old so it's been through tens of summers and winters that might have influenced its condition. If it bothers you, why don't you visit and take care of it. I mean, even if he had donated to Free Poland Fund, that was over 100 years ago ... All the people involved are long dead and they can't take care of his grave.

As for your cousin, I don't know how likely she is to be Jewish or not, but I don't think making comments about her father's looks will win her heart :)
kaprys   
21 Jun 2018
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1043]

They might have been frankists (roughly the time mentioned- you can google them) or just converts. I doubt they were forced to do it.
I won't be able to see much on my mobile. I will check it later.
BTW, they often used Latin names in church records that's why Wojciech-Adalbert, Zofia-Sophia.