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The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans


Catherine1011 1 | 5    
23 Sep 2007  #1

Hi,

Well to start off with I am an American with many different European ethnicities in me including Polish.

Anyway I was wondering whats the typical Polish look of the Poles. The hair, eye, skin color, body build in both men and women, facial features.

I read recently that Poland is one of the blondest countries, along with Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Russia. Thats does seem partial true. Because some of the realitives in my family who are Polish stock part were all very white blonde as kids then turned to a very light brown in adolescence all with eye striking lightening blue eyes and fair skin but tanned very well suprsingly with that fair of hair and eye color. But I've notcied form meeting, seeing other Polish descent Americans, and Poles on T.V, actors, actresses on youtube, pictures of different Polish that there are defintley brown eye black haired brunettes as well.

So what coloring do most Poles have fair, dark, in between or all equal just about.

Now whats the build height, body type of Poles Eastern Europeans in general. I read reacently that in the former old generations, people now in their 100's, 90's, 80's, 70', 60's, 50's, 40's are in their body build stocky short and heavy, big boned with good muscle not so much fat, robust, mesomorph build. Now I read that its just a reverse in their builds that in my generation and younger they are quite tall and slim, with finer lighter bone structure not as muscular, robust more lithe, delicate, ballerina, dancer, model type bodies in both women and men. They are very slender.

With all the other different European ethnicities in me I am tall 5'91/2, 5'10 in shoes thats 1,77cm and 1,78 cm. Well no unfortuanatley I am not not naturally thin I gain weight if I eat junk food and don't exercise. I defintley have a shape to me not straight up and down I defintley have hips, butt on me and sinched in waist, and a average sized bust, hourglass figure. I am naturally medium in my weight not so much slender, but I am slender now by exercising, yoga, meditation, alot of dancing and running, differnt sports, swimming, basketball.

I become quite a health freak in nutrition eating mostly raw organic locally grown fruits and vegetable, organic free range meats. I am into jucing and Asian, East Indian health nutrition, exercise.

Oops sorry I carried on so much about myself. Anyway what is typical Polish Eastern European build on men and women? Then and now. Thanks

Now onto the features I notice thats its either a very sqaure face with big, beautiful, high cheekbones, or an slender heart face with the very pointy high cheekbones. The eyes shape tends to be lovley almond shape, and the lips full and unusual shape the upper lip bigger than the lower lip. Which nice gives it distinction. The nose is either many times nice defintley high bridged nose with globular round tip and rather large nostrils or a small very, very thin, medium, to high bridged nose with narrow nostrils.

Well I finally wrote what I want to know.

So I apperciate some informative answers.

Thanks

Iskra 1 | 42    
23 Sep 2007  #2

I don't know how to answer this exactly but in my previous outlook - There is mix genes of Polish now - not all are clean Slavic.

I believe that slavic peoples originally were of between light/dark/. Hair color between dark blond to dark brown. Fair - olive skinned. Any color eyes, actually I often hear of green eyes (but not sure about it).

In Poland you can find many people who are darker looking but had blond hair as kids and dont even look similar to themselves in comparison.

Also, these days in Poland (and for a few centuries now) there have been the appearance of the red-haired and very fair skinned peoples (often with appearance of frekled skin).

I think lots of Polish people range in the hair colors of dark blond - dark brown. Any color eyes (But often I see, green, gray and brown). Skin color tones also range from fair to olive. Both tones are the ones that tan well - Lots of Polish (especially girls) like to tan and be darker (not all obviously).

Height wise?? I don't know - I think average is something like 160-165cm? There are a lot of girls who are "tall" but even girls 168/170cm + are being labelled as tall.

Build wise - well, cant speak about older peoples as it is a different matter but in age 30 and less I would say a normal slim - a range of slim-normal/average buld. I have not seen so many overweight people in Poland (it doesn happen but not as many as I saw in US and Australia). But also I dont see as many annorexic looking people in Poland(as I also saw in US and Australia in contrast to the overweight).

On the mix of genes remember most Polish are not pure slavic. Slavic peoples were not the only ethnicity that created the state of Poland, although it was the majority and people did not mix as much then as they do now - there was also tribles are Germanic (which I believe are lighter in ethnic look *typically*). Also later on the introduction of nomadic tribes as gypsies (Romani), who didnt not generally mix but will find that most People will not own up to the truths of their families sharing Romani genes. Also not to forget the Jewish who came to Poland.

Hope to also hear responses from others I'm also interested to learn more on this topic! I am also little mixed in ethicity. But as a Polish I am proud Kashubian hehehe :-)

Now onto the features I notice thats its either a very sqaure face with big, beautiful, high cheekbones, or an slender heart face with the very pointy high cheekbones. The eyes shape tends to be lovley almond shape, and the lips full and unusual shape the upper lip bigger than the lower lip. Which nice gives it distinction. The nose is either many times nice defintley high bridged nose with globular round tip and rather large nostrils or a small very, very thin, medium, to high bridged nose with narrow nostrils.

This is pretty perfect description of my observation. Many many of the guys seem to have more of the square face shape than the girls. A lot of Polish guys share a more similar look than girls in my opinion also....
Polson 5 | 1,777    
23 Sep 2007  #3

Dunno if there a typical Polish look...Iskra is right, with mixes of people, looks can be pretty different from one place to another...don't know if a Pole from the East looks like exactly as a Pole from the West...mix with maybe Ukrainian in the East, and on the other hand, mix with German in the West...

I think I don't know enough to tell more about that topic... ;)
OP Catherine1011 1 | 5    
23 Sep 2007  #4

Really as I thought Slavic peoples were lighter than Germanic peoples from what I read.

As I stated before I read that they are now tall and slimmer as supposed to the older generations were short and stocky.

So?
Puzzler 9 | 1,089    
23 Sep 2007  #5

re: Oops sorry I carried on so much about myself

- Not only about yourself....

I hope my comment is 'informative' enough...?
Iskra 1 | 42    
23 Sep 2007  #6

Really as I thought Slavic peoples were lighter than Germanic peoples from what I read.

As I stated before I read that they are now tall and slimmer as supposed to the older generations were short and stocky.

So?

No, from as far as I have learned Slavic are darker than Germanic. Germanic tribes traditionally are similar to Scandinavian which are also known for their blonde-hair, light skinned attributes.

Traditionally slavic peoples were darker (slight amount - fair-light olive skin, dark blond-dark brown hair, green), and did appeal to the lighter look when the different tribes of Poland came togther. Hence why all Polish dolls almost have blond hair because this look became beloved. Slavic of course, as not as dark as mediteranian peoples, who had stronger olive skin, dark brown hair, dark eyes.

Anyway - whatever was traditionally is now an ancient history! People are mixed now :P You will find many different looking Polish.... which can add to interests. Have you see how indian Miss Poland 2006 ( Marzena Cieslik ) looks? misspolonia.com.pl

This is a good site to see what Polish girls may look like - but also some examples of Polish celebrities are Edyta Gorniak (half romani/half Polish), Karolina Rosinska, Natalia kukulska, kasia kowalska, Agnieszka Dygant, Maciej Stuhretc, Maciej Zakoscielny, ... I will think of more celebrities later if you wish :-)
witek 1 | 587    
24 Sep 2007  #7

On the mix of genes remember most Polish are not pure slavic. Slavic peoples were not the only ethnicity that created the state of Poland, although it was the majority and people did not mix as much then as they do now - there was also tribles are Germanic

Iskra what Germanic tribes are you refering to that helped form the Polish state?

Western Slavic tribes which included the Pomorzanie, Slezanie, Wislanie, Ledzianie and Mazowszanie were united by the strongest of the Lechitic tribes who were the Polanie tribe and under Piast rule created the Polish state.
Iskra 1 | 42    
24 Sep 2007  #8

Iskra what Germanic tribes are you refering to that helped form the Polish state?

no i didn't say they help to form Poland. I said there were also Germanic tribes within Poland that came when slavic did. This is a minority o bviously. but that is already there, that in Polish roots - not many people are pure slavic now. And some families will be ranging in different ancestories than others, especially the ones around the borders - which also when boreders of poland changed through the ages, is also another instance for not having "pure" slavic genes (though majority of genes are slavic - hence why we are the decendants of slavic peoples).
witek 1 | 587    
24 Sep 2007  #9

I said there were also Germanic tribes within Poland that came when slavic did

Slavs migrated into current Polish land between 500- 700 century AD and
by that time most of the Eastern Germanic tribes such as the Goths and Vandals that inhabited parts of Poland in 1st century AD had moved on to better lands.

The Slavic migration moved west and around 1000 century AD. slavic tribes such as the Sorbs and Polabians (Wends) occupied the German land between the Elbe and the Oder rivers.
plk123 8 | 4,165    
24 Sep 2007  #10

there sin't one Polish look out there. there has been lot's of blood mixing over the centuries. lot's of blood from asia and other parts of europe. just look into whom the poles fought over the centuries and you'll see who we're mixed with. the only thing that's common is the higher cheek bones.
Polson 5 | 1,777    
24 Sep 2007  #11

just look into whom the poles fought over the centuries and you'll see who we're mixed with.

Germans, Turks, Russians, Swedes... :p what a mix ! ;p
plk123 8 | 4,165    
24 Sep 2007  #12

right.. i think the blond/blue comes from the north.. the darkn, come from the far east.

btw. don't forget the Tartars. :)
Polson 5 | 1,777    
24 Sep 2007  #13

light hair, blue/green eyes maybe from the North (and the West with Germany), Tatars came from the South ? South East or East ?...etc.
plk123 8 | 4,165    
24 Sep 2007  #14

far, far east.. mongolian plateau.
Polson 5 | 1,777    
24 Sep 2007  #15

Ok, so Poland may be a great mix, almost better than the USA ;p LoL
plk123 8 | 4,165    
24 Sep 2007  #16

USA has a mix from all corners of the earth.. poland's mix is a little bit more limited, but yes, it's similar.. maybe why we're allies.. many things in common.
Lukasz 49 | 1,751    
24 Sep 2007  #17

ght hair, blue/green eyes maybe from the North (and the West with Germany), Tatars came from the South ? South East or East ?...etc.

interesting theory ;))) Ukrainias and Russians are blond too. Tatars were living in their own societies mostly on teretories of todys Bielarsus and Ukraine and were musilm so that was problem to mix (but maybe there is influence) I think that there is a lot of peole mixed with Germans Lithuenians Russians Ukrainians Bielarusians, Jews. As Lithuenians Germans(Merkel 25% Pole) Russians (it is considered that 10% of ST Petersburg citizens has Polish origin) Ukrainians, Belarusians have Polish origin, as well. Jews for mixing with Poles were expiled form their society so most of this mix is in Poland. Wars with Turkey were mostly on the teritories of todays Ukraina
witek 1 | 587    
24 Sep 2007  #18

there sin't one Polish look out there. there has been lot's of blood mixing over the centuries. lot's of blood from asia and other parts of europe. just look into whom the poles fought over the centuries and you'll see who we're mixed with.

In terms of the Y-chromosome haplogroups the Poles are quite "Slavic" and they are similar in this respect to the their ethnic kin in the east the Russians and Ukranians. The most common haplogroup in all three nations is R1a - the dominant haplorgoup in eastern Europe.

light hair, blue/green eyes maybe from the North (and the West with Germany),

Western European influence on the Polish genetic makeup via Y-chromosome haplogroups has not been that great. Haplogroup R1b which is most often seen in Celtic and Germanic populations is found at levels of 7-17% in Poland and the typically Germanic I1a is even rarer, occuring at less than 6% in Poland as a whole.

Jews for mixing with Poles were expiled form their society so most of this mix is in Poland. Wars with Turkey

Middle Eastern haplogroups such as J and G are also uncommon in Poland. Wheras Western and Southern European populations, as well as the Ukranians and southwest Russians, carry more of these Middle Eastern markers than Poles. This argues against any significant Jewish, Armenian and Turkish influence on the present Polish population, despite these groups' well documented presence in Polish history.
Lukasz 49 | 1,751    
24 Sep 2007  #19

Middle Eastern haplogroups such as J and G are also uncommon in Poland. Wheras Western and Southern European populations, as well as the Ukranians and southwest Russians, carry more of these Middle Eastern markers than Poles. This argues against any significant Jewish, Armenian and Turkish influence on the present Polish population, despite these groups' well documented presence in Polish history.

thank you for information, where did you find this ? (I would like to read about it)
witek 1 | 587    
24 Sep 2007  #20

this forum is very good biodiversityforum.com/



witek 1 | 587    
24 Sep 2007  #21

Anyway I was wondering whats the typical Polish look of the Poles

usually good looking





witek 1 | 587    
24 Sep 2007  #22

also Poles are usually slender and not fat like Americans





witek 1 | 587    
24 Sep 2007  #23

polish girls aren't bad either



Iskra 1 | 42    
24 Sep 2007  #24

also Poles are usually slender and not fat like Americans

hehehe.... I agree with this. But I have noticed that it is not only Americans who are obese but also in Australia! On contrast in these two nations - I either see obese people or I see the ones who looking annorexic.
Lightbulb 1 | 39    
25 Sep 2007  #25

also Poles are usually slender and not fat like Americans

Geez. I'd rather be fat as a whale than look like either of those two guys, though! Heroin chic, I guess, must still be big! ;)

Anyway, most Polish-descended people I've met look almost exactly the same. About 5'5-6'3 in height, hair ranging from black to blonde, eye color usually brown or blue or something in between, and usually ten fingers and ten toes, give or take.

stuff your face with fries Yank

Ugh, no thanks. ;)

Those guys do look really stoned though, you must admit.
witek 1 | 587    
25 Sep 2007  #26

Anyway, most Polish-descended people

it is people of Polish descent NOT Polish descended people



witek 1 | 587    
25 Sep 2007  #27

Those guys do look really stoned though, you must admit.

maybe they are hungry?

there is a Polish saying,

Polak głodny, to zły Polak

which means a hungry Pole is an angry Pole
Lightbulb 1 | 39    
25 Sep 2007  #28

it is people of Polish descent NOT Polish descended people

Eh. That paragraph was meant as humor. Grammatical or scientific accuracy isn't necessary. I won't be submitting it to the Encyclopedia Britannica, so don't fret.

Although I do prefer the -descended (I normally would've hyphenated it) version, correct or no. Euphony is more important than grammar to me, and the former doesn't flow. :)
OP Catherine1011 1 | 5    
30 Sep 2007  #29

He he .... Very funny, the contrast with Americans and Poles.

Anyway when I meant stocky I didn't mean fat at all. But shorter and more robust as apposed to tall, gracile.

By the way I am an American not fat, yeah one of the fews one lol.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,703    
30 Sep 2007  #30

well its funny how people talk crap about fat, my daughter lives on carbs and her
body cant process fat nor can she excercise to much or she will become really sick
and we spend days in the hospital.. I really get tired of people talking crap about
fat. this could be your family that dies, instead of making fun why not help someone

sickening.. karma will show up on your doorsteps hopefully soon.

just so you know, most of these are metabolic defects, something that happens
because of genetics ...

I am so glad I don teach my family to be this cruel and I dont call other nations fat
skinny or put them down in anyway.. witek some days I think your really nice and
smart, but this thread, your dumb side popped out. I lose so much respect for people
when they are out to hurt others.. god what a shame!

did you ever see a skinny person eating a burger and she/he can eat as much as
they want and never gain a single pound and then you have a person whos metabolic
system isnt working similar and so they store the fat, wow.. did any of this ever occur to anyone? or is it just a lets put down others show???

I am done!




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