Mr Grunwald
13 Nov 2023
History / November 11th, what does it mean to you? [24]
@Miloslaw
Is the date that was supposed to bring peace and stability to the continent, where a feeling and sensation of brotherhood&co operation of people was out to emerge against the tyranny and strict unmovable laws and regulations people saw as the reason for their own misfortune.
While it gave hope and a chance for people and nationalities to break up or reduce the size of the states that were oppressing them (Ottomons Empire, Austria-Hungary, German Empire and Tsarist Russia)
My Norwegian side have no big relation to this war other then it being a tragedy for humanity as a whole as Norway wasn't an active participant except being neutral but, lukewarm towards U.K at cost of relationship with Germany (regarding sale of Norwegian fish) and possible consequences of events in ww2.
My Polish side however sees it as a clash of giants, and among them the three that held down Poland were weakened and beaten at the same time within a small timeframe. It was an opportunity of unlikely size and magnitude.
People wanting a Poland that would not only be United by all social classes, ethnicities and religion but, also with hope of a brighter tomorrow out of the dark mist of oppression and horror of world war 1. While many nations sat back with a grim analyses of their countries action, Poland saw it as a chance to wash itself off all of the carnage and off those were responsible for it.
It created tensions and conflicts that even to this day can be seen as an unwarranted attack or betrayal, mainly by Citizens of the Russian Federation, it's admirers or those closely related to the ideology of Marxism. While there are some Germans commenting on those events as well, it's rather small in scale while Austrian commentary seems to be invisible. Czech or Slovak didn't have much to comment except for Cieszyn which they grabbed (despite it having a large Polish population) due to it being historically part of Bohemia and strategically important location for their railroad network and connecting Slovakia (as part of having Czechoslovakia).
Belarus had to quickly adjust by siding with Soviet Union or Poland or passively accept the controller in being at that time. Ukraine on the other hand had the vigour, initiative and soldiers but, lack of unity and aggressive stance towards Poland regarding Lwów.
Which sparked a reaction by local Polish civilians by taking arms wherever possible and soon joined by Polish soldiers. Most known was Hallers Army dressed in French gear, equipment and uniforms. Many being Polish Americans too who volunteered
In general it is a date that begin a rebirth of one of the most just and noble causes, a fight however gruesome and horrible to the western public that wanted all wars to end. Saw a resurgent Poland fighting for her own survival in a very rough neighbourhood as too aggressive and Imperialistic by her western admirers (especially by United States of America) which began a slow but, steady support and admiration of the Soviet Union over the cause of Poland's freedom until after 1945 when the Cold War began to emerge and need to "purge" pinkies in the U.S became a priority after the Soviet Union came to have nuclear weapons technology due to espionage.
To this day in U.S.A, that action of theft has most of it's population scarred with a hostile view of socialism. To the ignorance of the European public at large
@Miloslaw
Is the date that was supposed to bring peace and stability to the continent, where a feeling and sensation of brotherhood&co operation of people was out to emerge against the tyranny and strict unmovable laws and regulations people saw as the reason for their own misfortune.
While it gave hope and a chance for people and nationalities to break up or reduce the size of the states that were oppressing them (Ottomons Empire, Austria-Hungary, German Empire and Tsarist Russia)
My Norwegian side have no big relation to this war other then it being a tragedy for humanity as a whole as Norway wasn't an active participant except being neutral but, lukewarm towards U.K at cost of relationship with Germany (regarding sale of Norwegian fish) and possible consequences of events in ww2.
My Polish side however sees it as a clash of giants, and among them the three that held down Poland were weakened and beaten at the same time within a small timeframe. It was an opportunity of unlikely size and magnitude.
People wanting a Poland that would not only be United by all social classes, ethnicities and religion but, also with hope of a brighter tomorrow out of the dark mist of oppression and horror of world war 1. While many nations sat back with a grim analyses of their countries action, Poland saw it as a chance to wash itself off all of the carnage and off those were responsible for it.
It created tensions and conflicts that even to this day can be seen as an unwarranted attack or betrayal, mainly by Citizens of the Russian Federation, it's admirers or those closely related to the ideology of Marxism. While there are some Germans commenting on those events as well, it's rather small in scale while Austrian commentary seems to be invisible. Czech or Slovak didn't have much to comment except for Cieszyn which they grabbed (despite it having a large Polish population) due to it being historically part of Bohemia and strategically important location for their railroad network and connecting Slovakia (as part of having Czechoslovakia).
Belarus had to quickly adjust by siding with Soviet Union or Poland or passively accept the controller in being at that time. Ukraine on the other hand had the vigour, initiative and soldiers but, lack of unity and aggressive stance towards Poland regarding Lwów.
Which sparked a reaction by local Polish civilians by taking arms wherever possible and soon joined by Polish soldiers. Most known was Hallers Army dressed in French gear, equipment and uniforms. Many being Polish Americans too who volunteered
In general it is a date that begin a rebirth of one of the most just and noble causes, a fight however gruesome and horrible to the western public that wanted all wars to end. Saw a resurgent Poland fighting for her own survival in a very rough neighbourhood as too aggressive and Imperialistic by her western admirers (especially by United States of America) which began a slow but, steady support and admiration of the Soviet Union over the cause of Poland's freedom until after 1945 when the Cold War began to emerge and need to "purge" pinkies in the U.S became a priority after the Soviet Union came to have nuclear weapons technology due to espionage.
To this day in U.S.A, that action of theft has most of it's population scarred with a hostile view of socialism. To the ignorance of the European public at large
