WielkiPolak
21 Oct 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]
So what? You think if a plane goes down it can only be the fault of the pilot? You don't have much of an imagination do you?
I think you have a hatred for Poland for whatever reason. I think this is 'Katyn 2' and just like the original Katyn, we will probably only find out the truth in about, oh, say, 70 years time or so. Until then we have to listen to lots of people, including mainstream media, tell us it is all conspiracy theories.
Unqualifed? In what way unqualified? Had they never been pilots on a plane before?
Well then you might as well be using MAK since a government run report with supposedly 'neutral' experts is not much short of a farce.
Did you ever think that this might be because they thought they were somewhere else to where they were and when they were told there was terrain ahead, it was too late to do anything even when they pulled up? I doubt that someone flying a plane with almost no visibility would be ignoring commands not to land and just going for it.
Well you see we must be getting our information from completely different sources because I was reading that he was not in the cockpit.
Like I said a Polish report where the only way to shut this case up is to make the Polish side look incompetent. If it points the finger at Russians, then it has to deal with them, and PO does not want problems with the Russians right now.
Nothing has been abandoned. They still talk about it a lot, the mainstream media just does not show any of this [although you might catch something on TVP info every now and then].
I am not so sure it was. By the way what do you have to say about items of victims not being given back to families or bodies having dirt sown in to them? No suspicion or obvious disrespect there?
He has not been silenced. You are just looking at the wrong media. He still has plenty to say and is still investigating with experts. He just does not get any opportunities to speak about this on mainstream TV although he was invited to TVP info not long ago where he had a lot to say on the issue.
The key is where have you been reading a great deal about the subject? Gazeta Wyborcza? Other government friendly anti PiS publications? Different media and books say different stuff don't they.
Were Russians flying the plane? Nope
So what? You think if a plane goes down it can only be the fault of the pilot? You don't have much of an imagination do you?
But, even if your bizarre conspiracy theory had any truth in it at all, which it of course does not, the fact still remains that the Polish crew went below cleared minimums for the plane and the pilot and the conditions
I think you have a hatred for Poland for whatever reason. I think this is 'Katyn 2' and just like the original Katyn, we will probably only find out the truth in about, oh, say, 70 years time or so. Until then we have to listen to lots of people, including mainstream media, tell us it is all conspiracy theories.
You mean despite the Poles putting unqualified pilots in the plane
Unqualifed? In what way unqualified? Had they never been pilots on a plane before?
No WP, you're wrong. We aren't using the MAK report, we're using the Polish report.
Well then you might as well be using MAK since a government run report with supposedly 'neutral' experts is not much short of a farce.
The call was made far too late - and even then, by the time they made the call, the plane was doomed.
Did you ever think that this might be because they thought they were somewhere else to where they were and when they were told there was terrain ahead, it was too late to do anything even when they pulled up? I doubt that someone flying a plane with almost no visibility would be ignoring commands not to land and just going for it.
He was certainly there, in contrary to the "sterile cockpit" rules of aviation. Was that Russia's fault, too?
Well you see we must be getting our information from completely different sources because I was reading that he was not in the cockpit.
The Polish report and consequences make it very clear that the PAF were incompetent.
Like I said a Polish report where the only way to shut this case up is to make the Polish side look incompetent. If it points the finger at Russians, then it has to deal with them, and PO does not want problems with the Russians right now.
Why is it that they've suddenly gone silent if they know the truth? It seems really strange - if they thought that their work had merit, surely they wouldn't abandon it all of a sudden?
Nothing has been abandoned. They still talk about it a lot, the mainstream media just does not show any of this [although you might catch something on TVP info every now and then].
In accordance with the wishes of the families, no doubt.
I am not so sure it was. By the way what do you have to say about items of victims not being given back to families or bodies having dirt sown in to them? No suspicion or obvious disrespect there?
But at the end of the day, if they were so certain that it was an explosion, why has Macierewicz been silenced recently? Why would they silence him if he was correct?
He has not been silenced. You are just looking at the wrong media. He still has plenty to say and is still investigating with experts. He just does not get any opportunities to speak about this on mainstream TV although he was invited to TVP info not long ago where he had a lot to say on the issue.
I was reading a great deal about this subject
The key is where have you been reading a great deal about the subject? Gazeta Wyborcza? Other government friendly anti PiS publications? Different media and books say different stuff don't they.