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Terrible past for the Jews in Poland?


pawian 190 | 19,211
3 Aug 2022 #721
He is doing that for his own benefit

Like what??? :):):)

he is on their side.

But a week or so ago you called me antisemite a dozen times. :):):)

the truth

Yes, this beautiful word: truth. Let`s have more of it.

Do you know that it wasn`t Nazis who first accused Jews of spreading typhoid? No, it was Polish nationalists:

[....]
Flashy graphics with simple associations appeared in newspapers and on posters: dirt - lice - Jews - typhoid. "The Jewish quarter as a source of typhoid in Warsaw!" - thundered under the title "Warsaw National Journal". In 1939, the same newspaper demanded that Jews be forced to bath.

The language of "Falanga" was the most radical in this respect. "The Nalewki awaits disinfection," the weekly wrote in 1938, "Only there are no fences there anymore, but entire houses, blocks, and streets need to be demolished (...). And do not economise on the boiling water, because it is all dirty, stained, dirty and lousy (...). They even say that this is the only district in Warsaw for which no air raid is dangerous. The heaviest bomb will hang in the air (...) such a heavy atmosphere. And if all those black republicans, cockroaches, democrats and bedbugs want to spread all over the capital - I will give you one more piece of advice (...). Surround Nalewki Street with a high wall. Block all passages with stones. " [....]
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,651
3 Aug 2022 #722
But a week or so you called me antisemite a dozen times. :):):

You are anti-semite if you are not fully commited to the casue, you should get on with the program and talk about Polish dead camps.

Like what??? :):):)

Read again my post. Hey it wasn't even addresed to you and you claimed that you don't read my posts. lol!
You need to remeber what you say if you lie. Otherwsie you look like an idiot.

accused Jews of spreading typhoid?

Who know maybe it was a fact. After all poor Jews weren't famous for their hygine.
pawian 190 | 19,211
3 Aug 2022 #723
you don't read my posts. lol!

I had finished working for today and had more time so I read your last post. But it is the same with you - you also claimed you didn`t read but still do it. hahahaha
Veles - | 234
4 Aug 2022 #724
these are historic facts.

Bierut wasn't Jewish.

Besides, capability of committing crimes is not reserved to any specific nations, I don't know what mentioning Jewish criminals is supposed to prove.

Can you show a video of IDF soldiers chanting "Death to Arabs", given that there are Arabs in IDF? Are members of Hamas and other radical Palestinian organizations chanting "Death to Israel"?

yet international Jewish owned media

Such as?

Hollywood is sucking up to everyone whose "mistreatment" is broadly reported. Or generally film industry in the West.
feestree
4 Aug 2022 #725
I never said IDF soldiers, isreali nationalists like Beitar Jerusalem fan supporters do the chanting, but IDF guards them
Los Angeles and New York Times both did hit pieces on Poland during the illegal migrant border crisis
Bierut WAS Jewish, by your logic Hitler wasnt German, he was Mexican,,,,,
Veles - | 234
4 Aug 2022 #726
but IDF guards them

Show me, please, I didn't see that. Besides, are you able to prove that IDF was guaring them and not FROM them? Can you also address the other point I made about radical Palestinian organizations doing exactly the same? And about the other part you ignored, specifically the one about crimes being committed by members of every nation, just for some reason you stick to one in particular?

Are you trying to prove here that IDF - which consists also of Arabs - sympathises with football hooligans? Or what's the point?

Los Angeles and New York Times both did hit pieces on Poland during the illegal migrant border crisis

Like a lot of different media that try to prove their political agenda. What's so surprising?

No, by my logic Hitler was Austrian. If you have the evidence that Bierut was Jewish, please show it.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,651
4 Aug 2022 #727
that IDF was guaring them

Don't make me laugh? What are you 12? Few years back it was on TV when IDF sniper murdered in coold blood 12 year old Palestian boy and killed or wounded his father who was trying to get him out of there.

All that kid was doing was chuking some stones on the wall. He wasn't really a threat to anyone.

That is only one of many istances when IDF use a brute overhelming force againt civilan population. I'm not talking about instatances where they kill 10 civilans to get one Palestinian freedom fighter.

That tell us a lot about mindset, attitude and mentality of majority of the people of Isreal.

Slimes like pawian focus on the past and show only one side of the past. The one that suits their political/idological narrative the best.

I could post pre-war pictures of fascist Jewish organization in uniforms and with the same salute that was in fashion in the 30'. It even more revelant as the party that support/ed "Bibi" Netanyahu originated from the same people.

What the point? It is all in the past.
pawian 190 | 19,211
4 Aug 2022 #728
pawian focus on the past and show only one side of the past

Yes, that is my conscious choice. Who can forbid me?????? :):):):)

Bierut WAS Jewish,

Yes, we know that rabid antisemites like you think everybody is Jewish except yourselves. :):):) To you even Pope JP2 was a Jew. hahaha



Alien 11 | 1,652
4 Aug 2022 #729
@Cojestdocholery
Bolesław Bierut probably was in fact Boleslaw Rotenschwanz.
Alien 11 | 1,652
4 Aug 2022 #730
Sure, some of them were true Polish patriots.
Lyzko 34 | 8,342
4 Aug 2022 #731
Boleslaw Beirut was born to Polish peasant stock from the Polish-Russian border!

@Alien, such facts are imminently checkable, rather surprised at you or were you just kidding?
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,651
11 Aug 2022 #732
ou also claimed you didn`t read

I don't read your winded old tales about pre-war Poland. Your reponces I do read. You claimed and you lied, you don't read my posts. So shut it. You are untrustworthy slime and liar and there no need to add more.

I just don't know why you post it? When I keep asking you to prove something else.

Bolesław Bierut probably was in fact Boleslaw Rotenschwanz.

As you are most likely a little green person from Mars. Still I don't care!

Beirut was born to Polish peasant stock from the Polish-Russian border!

What border? You don't know what you talking about as allways. He was born to the Poles left on the Soviet Union side of the border after 1921. That Polish minority that Stalin and Moscow elimited, he was one of those that surrvied by opting to side with the scum.
pawian 190 | 19,211
11 Aug 2022 #733
I just don't know why you post it?

To show how Polish nationalists cherishing National Democracy antisemitic "ideals" persecuted and murdered Polish Jews. Simple. You deny everything coz you follow the same nationalist obsession.
Lyzko 34 | 8,342
11 Aug 2022 #734
Precisely, Cojestdocholery!
However then, it was indeed considered a border area as ruling countries often changed hands so frequently, often one might not have known literally day to day to which country they belonged.

Quit being such a contrarian.
Miloslaw 14 | 4,532
11 Aug 2022 #735
To show how Polish nationalists cherishing National Democracy antisemitic "ideals" persecuted and murdered Polish Jews

You are the same as the leftists in the UK or USA.
You have nothing but hatred of your own countries past.
I get criticism of aspects of your countries history.
But to defame your own country, be it Poland, UK or USA would generally be described as treason.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,651
11 Aug 2022 #736
To show how Polish nationalists cherishing National Democracy antisemitic

I said - good.
In the context and times it was prefectly fine. It was what it was.
The point is that is not what you were talking about. You were talking about the war WWII and in that context you lie like a dog.

Even here you talk sh't, murders were happening on both sides, conflict was real and Polish nationalist were mainly sons of Polish farmers who seen first hand unfair Jewish bussines practises and scammers.

It is not as if an idoeolgy created problems, but rather were there to adress problem and conflict that excisted.
Your simpleton or left wing idelog viewpoint distort reality and that is a lie and a crime, you are disgusting silme because you keep doing it.

On the top of it anti-semitism was on the top trend at the time in all western countries like LGBT today.
So you would be a top antisemiste if you lived in those times judging who you are parroting all western BS today, like a slave.

On the final note Dmowski addresing Jewish question was at the time almost filosemitic. You simply didn't read it or you lie as always.
Alien 11 | 1,652
12 Aug 2022 #737
Let's leave the past. The question is whether Jews have any future in Poland🕎
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,651
12 Aug 2022 #738
Let's leave the past

Read the subject - cue on past. Stop trolling.
Alien 11 | 1,652
12 Aug 2022 #739
@Cojestdocholery
The future is the future past, Mr. Intelligent.
Crow 157 | 10,875
12 Aug 2022 #740
Jews, same as Rome, harmed Poles during era of slavery. Let us not forget that. Its another question some Slavs are rather stupid to forget harms done to their ancestors.

In any case, I am for good relations with Jews, if they apologize. But then, Rome should also apologize.
pawian 190 | 19,211
12 Aug 2022 #741
I get criticism of aspects of your countries history.

So do I, darling. I critisize Polish nationalists` attitude to Jews which escalated from rejection through persecution to murder.

In the context and times it was prefectly fine.

You see? Here is the bone of contention between us - you view antisemitic brawls by your nationalist idols as normal, while I consider them abhorrent.

Besides, stop falsely claiming that antisemitism was so popular before the war and that Jews were mistreated everywhere. No, it is a false assumption.

Dmowski filosemitic.

hahahahaha I see. He loved Jews. It was only his uneducated followers who misinterpreted his love as hatred and murdered Jews with Dmowski`s name on their lips.
Kashub1410 4 | 221
12 Aug 2022 #742
@pawian
Difference is you see Jews in role of victims, you would rather kick boxers out of a boxers ring, while a Narodowiec would rather invite the Jew for a sparring match.

THAT'S the difference!

Jews play dirty, you should know that
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,651
12 Aug 2022 #743
- you view antisemitic brawls by your

You view them from the keyborad perspective and 100 years time lapse. Your today views are useless to discribe what was going on in the past. You sound like a moron trying to talk serious topic.

Get your facts first.

No, it is a false assumption.

That is reality, you are ignornat like hell. Typical assli..er for the west that never exicted in reality. Do you feel better then everone being a mindless parrot? You are a pitful fool.

What is a false assumption is your asumption that Jews were the victims and the weak onces. Maybe during the WWII but not before the war and not in the past. They were taking advatage of the local peasnat - they were ribbing them blind whenevere they could. They were in cahoots with nobles if you go as far back as 19th century. The victims, oppressed and the weaker side were peasanst. No suprise they were not loved here.

He loved Jews.

No, but he didn't advocte violence or extermination or anything of the sort. Also you ignornat fool it wasn't his followers but some splier groups in the 30' who wanted to do something while Sanacja regime wasn't doing anything.

All that was onlty cliams made by some students organizations. Something that was the norm in the west and nobody cry about it. Here some student bodies make a demostration to demand it and now it is listed as a crime. What the hell are you even normal? Punks like you are the worst.
pawian 190 | 19,211
12 Aug 2022 #744
You view them from the keyborad perspective and 100 years time lapse

Is it forbidden to relate and discuss past events??? :):):) Darling, I didn`t know about it.

No suprise they were not loved here.

And that feeling of dislike escalated into a murdering spree. And you see nothing wrong with it. Sad. :(:(:( That is why I will never accept your rabid nationalist points of view, ideas, "ideals" etc coz you are too trigger happy murderous scum.

he didn't advocte violence or extermination or anything of the sort

No, he didn`t. But he created a movement and party which took his antisemitism so seriously that it led to murder eventually.

Something that was the norm in the west

Everywhere? It is a lie, of course. :):)

Cut down on your quotes please
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,651
13 Aug 2022 #745
Is it forbidden to relate and discuss past events???

You need to know and understand context of the times which you do not. Either out of ignorance or out of spite!

And that feeling of dislike escalated into a murdering spree.

What spree? They browled some people were killed here and there on both sides, you make it into a story with idological background and made up context. That is a lie and that makes you a slime.

Telling you never talk about comunist and their crimes and how they get away with it without punishment. Such a fine moral specimen you are standing for fairness and justice but only IF you can sh't on Poland or Poles. You never talk about rabbid communist scum or lefties mob.

took his antisemitism so seriously that it led to murder eventually.

That is a lie. Punks like you are the worst. Making stuff up left and right. What a silme.
By the way it was the norm in the west at the very least in the USA. It has been proven time and time agian . If you proven to live in denial it wouldn't be your first.
pawian 190 | 19,211
13 Aug 2022 #746
to know and understand context of the times

I do, of course. But I don`t have time to relate it all. I am providing pure facts.

What do you write about in the rest of your post coz I didn`t read it as too long?? Can you summarise??? :):):)

But you insist so much, then let`s continue our series:

still prewar times full of antisemitism which directly led to murders during WW2.

A leaflet:
Poles! Let`s swear now! If Jews win the elections, we won`t buy anything in Jewish shops!

Next - a Jewish shop with boarded up windows. The panes were broken earlier.





Alien 11 | 1,652
13 Aug 2022 #747
@pawian
Read the fine print please.
pawian 190 | 19,211
13 Aug 2022 #748
Read the fine print please

Even that would be a waste of time. I read only the first sentence in Cojest`s posts and reply to it. The rest is the same as before - silly denials and infantile abuses of a rabid nationalist. :):):)

posters "Jews to the ghetto" appeared on streets. Beneath the drawing of a broom sweeping a swarm of small figures with characteristic prominent noses,




pawian 190 | 19,211
13 Aug 2022 #749
posters "Jews to the ghetto" appeared on streets.

Polish nationalists created the nasty atmosphere against Jews before the war. Is it surprising that Nazi Germans built most of their death camps in Poland and not anywhere else? The important factor was the number of Polish Jews - over 3 million. But the atmosphere counted too. And Germans perfectly exploited antisemitic sentiments cherished by Poles who supported radical nationalist groups.
Kashub1410 4 | 221
13 Aug 2022 #750
@pawian
That is a Jewish myth, I wouldn't say Germans were excactly safe anywhere in Poland. Wether they had ghettoes there or not, one of the reasons Germans build it in Poland was due to lack of peace treaty (No laws in place they formally had to follow) and enormous amount of Jews in Poland.

Logistically and jurisdicticly a lot easier for them. Safer however? Undoubtedly not

If you think Nazi's had Polish backing to build ghettoes and concentration camps then your supporting the German narrative (which was clearly shown in one of their most recent World War Two series)


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