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Do all Brits take (illegal) drugs?


Seanus 15 | 19,672
9 Oct 2010 #91
Well, consent is always hard to prove when she is so far gone. That's why I said inadvertent as I didn't want to get into the technicalities of rape (Stallard case in Scotland). There is an understanding that it's just part of the night if you are both wasted and let the questions be asked in the morning.

Well, quite. The head spins and bodily dysfunction should be enough to put anyone off for a lifetime.
OP zetigrek
9 Oct 2010 #92
Exactly, as a Psych nurse I've seen some fecked up cases...

btw. I've seen such video on YT:
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dDBofgWP5fM

Do you have sometimes such patients?
dtaylor5632 18 | 1,999
9 Oct 2010 #93
Do you have sometimes such patients?

After 10 secs of the vid It seemed like a normal Friday night in an A&E unit. Its part and parcel.
convex 20 | 3,928
9 Oct 2010 #94
man, throw that ******* in jail.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1,999
9 Oct 2010 #95
Can't, its not "him". Cant really treat or prosecuted someone like that in the state he is in. For all we know he could have had his drink spiked.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
10 Oct 2010 #96
Very true, Davie. Under containment, he can recover and get back to normality. This is the point of such facilities. People can feel scared and punishing them doesn't help. Yeah, they shouldn't have gone there in the first place but they did. Establishing contact and reassuring them helps. Being aggressive will only exacerbate the problem.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1,999
10 Oct 2010 #97
Very true, Davie.

I speak some sense sometimes ;)
Seanus 15 | 19,672
10 Oct 2010 #98
As you well know, the nursing profession is predicated on trust and best practice. My dad has told me many stories regarding the NHS. There is no sense in being heavy-handed with patients and a lot is based on misunderstanding. When I worked in Cornhill hospital for 3 months, I was in amongst the psych patients. I did database work but went down to the cafeteria, through the corridor with all the wards, to get my lunch. I felt very comfortable as I know how to deal with them.

Oh, drugs. I believe we were born to experience and drugs can teach you many things. I've never taken acid though I'm led to believe that what I did with the hashish block, i.e mixing it in yoghurt for rapid absorption into my system, was tantamount to one and the same. The Australian Pink Floyd sounded very good that night :) :) I don't regret what I did and I knew what I was doing.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1,999
10 Oct 2010 #99
I felt very comfortable as I know how to deal with them.

You sure? ;) but yes there is something about having a little confidence in being around such people. They are just like us, with certain things that have gone missing. Bannockburn was a scary place even for me. Its like the last stand for this areas Psych patients. It was scary, but I loved my chats with the patients, and it was one of the reasons I got hooked with this job, such an interesting environment plus very rewarding when things go right :)
Seanus 15 | 19,672
10 Oct 2010 #100
Yeah, on a superficial level, yes. I had an empathy then that they'd have picked up on. I hooked up with one of my ex-Britam student's kids today (yesterday now). His son is writing a book on psych patients and it really struck me as insightful that he'd do that at such a young age.

Back to drugs. They provided an extra dimension to life and the key part was to get into it and defend your decision to take them and not feel guilty. Again, I'm talking about Class B's.
f stop 25 | 2,503
10 Oct 2010 #101
I am my employer, and have enough capital not to have to worry about what other people say about me. The markets don't care who's selling or who's buying :)

You mean you don't have a super-secret double life?? ;)
FlaglessPole 4 | 657
10 Oct 2010 #102
Well, having spent 2 years on Koh Phangan (South East Asia's answer to Ibiza), having business and working there apart from partying my ass off:) I have to say that Brits are definitely the ones with the most extensive 'drug culture'. They start really early, pilling away through the weekends at the age of 13-14, something totally unheard of in Scandinavia.
Bzibzioh
10 Oct 2010 #103
I've seen such video on YT:

Young people with a lottery mentality, taking a risk and expecting society to rescue them. Good case against socialist health care: why we should all pay for such idiots getting himself into trouble? If he had to pay for rescuing him out of his own pocket he would at least think about it before.
convex 20 | 3,928
10 Oct 2010 #104
Absolutely, that's one of the problems that rescue teams have across the world. Bailing out people who take stupid risks. I think Stossel did a show about it a while back. Anyway, with regards to drugs, 99% of the time it's a question of personal responsibility. People tend to perform very very bad risk analysis which leads to stupid decisions...in the case of drugs, that means doing too much, way too much to the point where they can't handle it. I have no sympathy at all for those people.

You mean you don't have a super-secret double life?? ;)

Mild mannered poster by night, superhero by day. It's a bit of role reversal, but hey, it works.
southern 74 | 7,074
10 Oct 2010 #105
If you saw what drugs do to the systematic users you would never touch them.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
10 Oct 2010 #106
Well, that's a fair point. Those junkies in Peterhead/Fraserburgh in Scotland are really nasty sorts. I knew a guy who was able to kick the habit but turned heavily to drink. My cousin was forced to live with him a long time ago. Chemical dependency is in their nature and they wrestle with it. The only thing I have in common with them is nationality.
Teffle 22 | 1,319
10 Oct 2010 #107
Ok so I know what's your experience, PF users, but what's your attidute now?

So what is yours now Zeti?
FlaglessPole 4 | 657
10 Oct 2010 #108
patience, give him some time, wait 'til the reefer around him thins out and he can actually see the screen
OP zetigrek
10 Oct 2010 #109
So what is yours now Zeti?

It causes brain damage, weird behaviour. To much risk for health.

patience, give him some time,

her.
FlaglessPole 4 | 657
10 Oct 2010 #110
her.

oops my sincere apologies, I'm so homo today ;)
AdamKadmon 2 | 501
10 Oct 2010 #111
Do all Brits take (illegal) drugs?

If they do they all should then end up in prison, so as well you could ask: Do all Brits should end up in prison. I hope nobody will challenge my logic.
OP zetigrek
10 Oct 2010 #112
If they do they all should then end up in prison. I hope nobody will challenge my logic.

Can you imagine 61 mln people in jail? ;)
AdamKadmon 2 | 501
10 Oct 2010 #113
No. But here is a problem of much more serious magnitude than putting 61 mln people in jail. Here logic itself is at stake!
me123 - | 1
10 Oct 2010 #114
Do all Brits take (illegal) drugs?

No! I only know a few people that take illegal drugs. Speed, hash, cocaine and ecstacy are the most common. But they only take them to party, they are not addicted. I think its unfair to suggest that all brits take drugs.


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